Western States Stockman & Pick
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:10 pm
Hi there I have a Large Western States Sowbelly made by Utica with Etch with Western States pick
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I’ve been told it was Sowbelly and can’t remember how much the curves have to be make it a Sowbelly as only owned couple sows before. It’s little over 4-1/4” closed.
I was wondering the same. Utica?tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am I don't understand why it may have been made by Utica? I think that is highly unlikely but I am always discovering new things.
Who do you guys believe made it?edge213 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:04 amI was wondering the same. Utica?tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am I don't understand why it may have been made by Utica? I think that is highly unlikely but I am always discovering new things.
Nice Clark . I carried a Wards by Winchester that looked like that one. I think it was 3 7/8" though.edge213 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:04 amI was wondering the same. Utica?tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am I don't understand why it may have been made by Utica? I think that is highly unlikely but I am always discovering new things.
Thank you very much Ken, I can see it’s not a Sow now. Just what I was told. Thanks for sharing a photo like up of each to show next to each other.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:15 am Nice knife, but I agree it’s not a “sowbelly”. I’d call it a serpentine stockman. Sowbelly pattern has a more pronounced “belly”. Sowbelly’s are also typically heavier looking than a stockman (they may it be actually heavier - they just “look” like it).![]()
Some examples. Top to bottom: Case 6318 Serpentine Stockman, Moore Maker 5303 Sowbelly, Schrade 881Y Serpentine Stockman. Hope that helps.![]()
Ken
Because I have seen they made knives for Utica and the nail pull location on main blade is a what Utica was known for a lot of.tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am I don't understand why it may have been made by Utica? I think that is highly unlikely but I am always discovering new things.
I suspect it as I seen knives were made by Utica and the uniqueedge213 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:04 amI was wondering the same. Utica?tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am I don't understand why it may have been made by Utica? I think that is highly unlikely but I am always discovering new things.
There is other topics about other knives made by Utica for Western on AAPK.tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:16 pm His kin back in NY furnished Platts with knives when he was setting up in Boulder, but before long he was making all his own knives. I don't think Utica was in the mix.
Can you give a link?Clark23 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:11 pmThere is other topics about other knives made by Utica for Western on AAPK.tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:16 pm His kin back in NY furnished Platts with knives when he was setting up in Boulder, but before long he was making all his own knives. I don't think Utica was in the mix.
Not sure how to put a link, just look up Western States Utica in search bartongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:42 pmCan you give a link?Clark23 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:11 pmThere is other topics about other knives made by Utica for Western on AAPK.tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:16 pm His kin back in NY furnished Platts with knives when he was setting up in Boulder, but before long he was making all his own knives. I don't think Utica was in the mix.
Westernwlf wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:17 amWho do you guys believe made it?edge213 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:04 amI was wondering the same. Utica?tongueriver wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am I don't understand why it may have been made by Utica? I think that is highly unlikely but I am always discovering new things.Western ? I was thinking it looked like a Winchester.
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Great find . The 94 pattern I believe was only offered in the 1941 catalog pages . Most of the Pocket knifes in the “41 “ pages had limited production runs and are difficult to find .you can go to the western forum under 1940’s 94 pattern western states knife to see some more 94’s .If you would post you knife on the thread that would be great .
My posts appear to be mostly or completely invisible.Thomasg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:06 amGreat find . The 94 pattern I believe was only offered in the 1941 catalog pages . Most of the Pocket knifes in the “41 “ pages had limited production runs and are difficult to find .you can go to the western forum under 1940’s 94 pattern western states knife to see a few more 94’s . Also if you would post your knife on the thread that would be fantastic . Thanks for sharing .
It does look like the 94 was offered in the 1921 catalog pages as 5394. then offered as the 53094 in 1931 catalog page you posted “ not invisible at all”’tongueriver wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:12 amMy posts appear to be mostly or completely invisible.Thomasg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:06 amGreat find . The 94 pattern I believe was only offered in the 1941 catalog pages . Most of the Pocket knifes in the “41 “ pages had limited production runs and are difficult to find .you can go to the western forum under 1940’s 94 pattern western states knife to see a few more 94’s . Also if you would post your knife on the thread that would be fantastic . Thanks for sharing .
Thomasg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:39 amIt does look like the 94 was offered in the 1921 catalog pages page as 5394. then offered as the 53094 in 1931 catalog page you posted .1941 was the only year. the dynamite knife was available .IMG_5877.jpegtongueriver wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:12 amMy posts appear to be mostly or completely invisible.Thomasg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:06 am
Great find . The 94 pattern I believe was only offered in the 1941 catalog pages . Most of the Pocket knifes in the “41 “ pages had limited production runs and are difficult to find .you can go to the western forum under 1940’s 94 pattern western states knife to see a few more 94’s . Also if you would post your knife on the thread that would be fantastic . Thanks for sharing .