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On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:09 pm
by just bob
What do you think you get if you' win this on-line auction? The pics are all you have to go by and that can be very deceptive. Look them over and post your answer. I know we have "experts" on here that profess to have the ability to read a knife in a shoe box with the lid closed, but my experience is it is very hard to read a knife unless it's an across the room fake or else you're holding it in your hand. What do you see here? Careful, I won the auction, so I know 100%.
This was the auction title.
Lot #: 45 - (4) Buck Creek Pocket Knives, one in box and the rest are in plastic wrap, see photo(s)
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:46 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Just by looking at the pictures, I would guess a Buck Creek Bobcat Solingen Germany Congress. It says 4 knives, but did you get 4 knives?
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 1:01 pm
by dlr110
Is that the PUMA cat on the blade?
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 2:35 pm
by just bob
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 12:46 pm
Just by looking at the pictures, I would guess a Buck Creek Bobcat Solingen Germany Congress. It says 4 knives, but did you get 4 knives?
Yes I got 4 knives
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 2:36 pm
by just bob
dlr110 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 1:01 pm
Is that the PUMA cat on the blade?
I think they are different.
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 2:46 pm
by Rockingkj
On line auctions at a challenge for sure. Poor pictures and even poorer descriptions are the norm. I have gotten some good knives but have experienced buyer’s remorse also. Sometime I feel is another form of legalized gambling.
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:03 pm
by XX Case XX
Rockingkj wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 2:46 pm
On line auctions at a challenge for sure. Poor pictures and even poorer descriptions are the norm. I have gotten some good knives but have experienced buyer’s remorse also. Sometime I feel is another form of legalized gambling.
Right there with you Brother.
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Mike
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 5:06 pm
by glennbad
That one pic says Solingen Germany, but they really look China made to me...

Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 5:19 pm
by C-WADE7
Reminds me of the Owls Head brand, supposedly Solingen made but seem low end Chinese quality.
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:40 pm
by peanut740
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 5:06 pm
That one pic says Solingen Germany, but they really look China made to me...

Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:44 pm
by KLJ77
A bit more info on Buck Creek knives here:
viewtopic.php?t=27930
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:49 pm
by just bob
I'll give others a chance to look at this and post but will come back within a few days and post more pics of the actual knives that were in the lot. The pics already posted were used in the auction. It's not so much of a question of what you see is what you get. It's more like hope for the best but expect the worst.
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:18 pm
by bighomer
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 3:00 am
by Mumbleypeg
This! I know nothing about Buck Creek knives. But if that blade in the photo is fully open, and not distorted by camera angle, the knife has problems.
Ken
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:41 am
by bighomer
Exactly

Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 5:04 pm
by just bob
I wanted to come in and update this. Jim was right the first knife in the box with the most pictures is a well-made German knife. The blades walk & talk. It was the main reason I wanted to bid on the lot. BTW the blades on this knife are just fine. This is a very comparable knife that is listed on eBay now with many pictures. I studied these before I did any bidding.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276427041133?i ... R7y0vIj2Yw
I saw that and kind of based my bidding on that even though I knew the price might be inflated. From there actually there is only one side of any other of the knives shown with the blades closed. It is a Buck Creek and stamped Germany Stainless. It isn't marked China, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it is sadly inferior. It is a 2-blade congress or senator pattern.
Then there are 2 knives in wrappers that I think had never been opened. One is a smaller congress pattern with a Buck Creek shield that is also marked Germany Stainless. It also has Bear & Bull and the blade etch. Bull is a good hint about the origin of the knife. It is sadly inferior as well. Not marked China, but that would seem to be the case.
Finally, there is a smaller 4-blade congress knife. It is also inferior and stamped Germany Stainless with a Buck Creek shield. As compared to the good German knife it is slightly smaller, the bone isn't near as nice, and the snap of the blades just isn't as good. Also, a product of China, I think.
I thought $100 max bid based on the first knife and question marks on the other 3. I got them for just about that including tax and commission. I won't get rich here but will do better than break even. China knives will sell, but not at a premium. This auction was within 25 miles of Indianapolis and the auctioneer told me that I was the only local person to win a knife. All the rest were shipped. They had some nice knives including Case with exotic handles. The buyers paid about 30% in fees plus the S&H charges, I didn't see any bargains, though I won several other lots.
I'll add a few pics of all of the knives. The good knife is top L look at the difference in the bone. Also note Solingen Germany vs. Germany Stainless on the other knives. In hand it is easy to pick out the quality knife, but not so much from auction pics.
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:30 am
by Dullest_knife
dlr110 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 1:01 pm
Is that the PUMA cat on the blade?
No, it’s a set of antlers, I just put a cracked ice buck creek congress up
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:35 am
by Dullest_knife
Older Buck Creeks will say oil joints on two blades , and Soligen on two
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:41 am
by Dullest_knife
Here’s a older one I had in my truck,
Good ole Soligen knife, I’d figure late 70’s- early 80’s
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 11:42 am
by just bob
Here is another one I noticed this morning that in an on-line auction near me. The auction title says - VNTG Knife Collection and that's all. There are a few other pics, but none of the pics show the knives with the blades open. Based on what you can see what would you bid on these without knowing the specific condition of each knife? I think there is one better knife in here and maybe a few other EDC type knives. The auction ends next Saturday, and I'll come back in and post the winning bid.
Re: On Line Auction
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 3:19 pm
by edge213
Based on just this one picture, I wouldn't pay over $30, but that's just me.