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Stainless Italy
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:18 pm
by Pops62
This is on its way to me.The only markings are STAINLESS ITALY on one side of the blade. It has a 3.25" blade. Any idea who made it? Age?
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:12 pm
by Bill DeShivs
Someone in China made it. It's not Italian.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:41 pm
by Pops62
Thanks. Is that fairly common? Dang Chicoms.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:30 pm
by jw517
Is the kick spring flat or round? USUALLY, a China knife has a round rod. Only buy them if they look like this.
That’s one way to be sure.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:35 am
by jw517
It might be very well made,sharp,and it’s pretty!
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:46 pm
by johns7076
I understand the round vs flat spring, but how else can you tell China from Italy etc.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:08 pm
by Killgar
johns7076 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:46 pm
I understand the round vs flat spring, but how else can you tell China from Italy etc.
What really stands out to me about Pops knife are the silver handle pins (likely stainless steel). I have only ever seen brass handle pins or brass handle screws on genuine Italian stilettos (and I've seen a lot of Italian stilettos). This does not mean that the presence of brass handle pins or screws indicates an Italian knife (many Asian stilettos have brass pins), but silver pins tells me an Asian knife.
Another telltale sign to me for Asian-made stilettos are stainless steel liners. Most Italian stilettos have brass liners. There are some rare vintage Italian stilettos and custom-made stilettos with steel liners, and Due Buoi (Italy) used to produce limited numbers of stilettos with stainless steel liners, but if a factory-made Italian-style stiletto is new, and has stainless steel liners, I would assume that it is Asian. The vintage steel-lined stilettos, the custom-made ones, and the Due Buoi stilettos are distinct, and are not likely to be confused for a new Asian stiletto.
Over the past few years I've seen a lot of Asian-made stilettos with guard bolsters that have a sort of "melted" look. They lack the clean, crisp lines of the Italian stilettos, particularly the "step" in the bolster (the separation between the pivot section and the guard section, red arrows in pics). The first pic below shows an Asian stiletto (falsely marked "Italian") with the "melted" bolster. The bottom pic (genuine Italian, Frank Beltrame) shows the crisp line I'm referring to. However, just like with brass handle pins, bolsters with crisp lines do not automatically indicate a genuine Italian stiletto, but a "melted" bolster does clearly indicate an Asian-made stiletto.
Pops knife also lacks the crisp "step" line in the guard bolsters.
Those are some of the characteristics of Asian-made stilettos that stand out to me.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:17 pm
by johns7076
Thanks Killgar. I'm slowly learning.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:22 pm
by Killgar
johns7076 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:17 pm
Thanks Killgar. I'm slowly learning.
You're welcome

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Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:14 pm
by 1OldTreeClimber
Keep looking.,soon you'll be able to tell them apart at a glance.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:18 pm
by Pops62
Great knowledge there Killgar. Thanks for sharing that. Good stuff to know.
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:09 pm
by Killgar
Pops62 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:18 pm
Great knowledge there Killgar. Thanks for sharing that. Good stuff to know.
Glad to be of service Pops

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Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:37 pm
by tenntuxedo
... greetings again, Pops... I'm still coveting that 13" blonde you received in that group... !!! ... as to the new post,... this is a Chinese knife,... some are so well made that they are hard to tell from the new made Italians, as they now have hollow bolsters with a poor step bolster... ... I try to stick with the old 1940's-1950's stiletto designs... the older ones always had excellent horn or stag scales,... also full brass or steel liners,.. no hollow bolster "ears",... rarely do you see steel pins but there are there... I recently got a great "Foglore" with brass liners and steel pins..!!!... also have a nice "EIG" circa mid50's with steel pins, liners, and plastic scales,... !!!.. there are variations. but they are rare... however, I hate to say that some Chinese are well made and good to carry and show when looking for old Italians... I won't buy one, but they can be had at a good price,... you got a great collection started, and the guys here are always glad to help with any questions,..... keep posting... !!!
Re: Stainless Italy
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:47 pm
by Pops62
tenntuxedo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:37 pm
... greetings again, Pops... I'm still coveting that 13" blonde you received in that group... !!! ... as to the new post,... this is a Chinese knife,... some are so well made that they are hard to tell from the new made Italians, as they now have hollow bolsters with a poor step bolster... ... I try to stick with the old 1940's-1950's stiletto designs... the older ones always had excellent horn or stag scales,... also full brass or steel liners,.. no hollow bolster "ears",... rarely do you see steel pins but there are there... I recently got a great "Foglore" with brass liners and steel pins..!!!... also have a nice "EIG" circa mid50's with steel pins, liners, and plastic scales,... !!!.. there are variations. but they are rare... however, I hate to say that some Chinese are well made and good to carry and show when looking for old Italians... I won't buy one, but they can be had at a good price,... you got a great collection started, and the guys here are always glad to help with any questions,..... keep posting... !!!
Thanks. I appreciate your help. The knife arrived today. It has some heft, is really tight but it does not compare to the quality of the Omega.