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Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:09 pm
by edisdead
Bit of a mystery to me. Searched through all the Turner catalogues I can find nothing. Never seen another example. Can you guess as to a specific use intended (if at all) for this pattern?
Date wise I wonder would the His Majesty be George or Edward? Something in me reckons George but it's a wild stab.
If you side the ambidextrous button down the blade opens by way of a toothed spine that actuates a correspondingly notched cam on the pivot. Hope that makes sense?
It deploys very snappily once I cleaned and oiled it. The wrap around tortoise appears real and the whole deal is a lovely little package.
Thought you fellas might enjoy seeing it as much as I did.
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:22 am
by FRJ
Well, that's really a dandy little knife.
There were more than a few Thomas Turners.
Your Thomas Turner & Co. started in 1802 from what I'm reading in Tweedale's Directory.
They had a long run up until 1932 at the depression in Sheffield, England.
It doesn't surprise me that you cant find find your knife. They made an enormous amount of cutlery and other items.
But that is a great little knife you have there.
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:34 am
by Froe
That is a really nice piece. Very unusual. I like it!
Froe
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:40 am
by Madmarco
edisdead wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:09 pm
Bit of a mystery to me. Searched through all the Turner catalogues I can find nothing. Never seen another example. Can you guess as to a specific use intended (if at all) for this pattern?
Date wise I wonder would the His Majesty be George or Edward? Something in me reckons George but it's a wild stab. IMG_20220228_204411.jpgIMG_20220228_204306.jpgIMG_20220228_203952.jpgIMG_20220228_171459.jpg
If you side the ambidextrous button down the blade opens by way of a toothed spine that actuates a correspondingly notched cam on the pivot. Hope that makes sense?
It deploys very snappily once I cleaned and oiled it. The wrap around tortoise appears real and the whole deal is a lovely little package.
Thought you fellas might enjoy seeing it as much as I did.
Very cool Ed!
Thanks for showing it to us!
EDIT: After re-reading your OP ED I see you asked if anyone could suggest a possible use for your knife, and a gentleman's finger-nail cleaning knife came to mind!
Also, am I understanding this correctly that when you pull/push the button the blade opens in correspondence with the sliding of the button a notch at a time?
Thx!
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:14 pm
by edisdead
Appreciate the comments fellas
To me it's was an odd ball and I wondered if the pattern could be identified. Who knows, maybe someone else has one.
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:10 am
by Miller Bro's
Nice knife
I have one that operates exactly the same as yours.
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:39 pm
by edisdead
Miller Bro's wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:10 am
Nice knife
I have one that operates exactly the same as yours.
Ah wow, would love to see it
, is it also by Turner?
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:43 pm
by Miller Bro's
I cannot remember who made it, if I can find it I will post a picture of it.
Ray posted a picture of his somewhere on this site.
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:56 am
by edisdead
Miller Bro's wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:43 pm
I cannot remember who made it, if I can find it I will post a picture of it.
Ray posted a picture of his somewhere on this site.
That would be great thank you. What is Ray's handle on this site and I might search his posts?
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:25 pm
by Miller Bro's
edisdead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:56 am
What is Ray's handle on this site and I might search his posts?
knife7knut is his handle
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:50 pm
by Miller Bro's
Found his post see here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=52166
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:42 am
by edisdead
Thank you for that Miller Bros, I see at least one example that appears very similar if not identical in mechanism used to open the blade as per my knife.
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:17 pm
by edisdead
Madmarco wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:40 am
edisdead wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:09 pm
Bit of a mystery to me. Searched through all the Turner catalogues I can find nothing. Never seen another example. Can you guess as to a specific use intended (if at all) for this pattern?
Date wise I wonder would the His Majesty be George or Edward? Something in me reckons George but it's a wild stab. IMG_20220228_204411.jpgIMG_20220228_204306.jpgIMG_20220228_203952.jpgIMG_20220228_171459.jpg
If you side the ambidextrous button down the blade opens by way of a toothed spine that actuates a correspondingly notched cam on the pivot. Hope that makes sense?
It deploys very snappily once I cleaned and oiled it. The wrap around tortoise appears real and the whole deal is a lovely little package.
Thought you fellas might enjoy seeing it as much as I did.
Very cool Ed!
Thanks for showing it to us!
EDIT: After re-reading your OP ED I see you asked if anyone could suggest a possible use for your knife, and a gentleman's finger-nail cleaning knife came to mind!
Also, am I understanding this correctly that when you pull/push the button the blade opens in correspondence with the sliding of the button a notch at a time?
Thx!
Sorry Marco, managed to miss this post somehow.
Yes that's it exactly. The button is attached to a sliding spine that rotates the blade correspondingly as both are mated together with teeth/notches.
There is close tolerances and some skill in its design and construction imo.
As to its use it is very pointy and ground thin for a sharp edge. The steel is definitely heat treated as is holding a good edge. I think its just a small utility knife?
Re: Assisted opening Thomas Turner & Co
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:47 am
by Madmarco
edisdead wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:17 pm
Madmarco wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:40 am
edisdead wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:09 pm
Bit of a mystery to me. Searched through all the Turner catalogues I can find nothing. Never seen another example. Can you guess as to a specific use intended (if at all) for this pattern?
Date wise I wonder would the His Majesty be George or Edward? Something in me reckons George but it's a wild stab. IMG_20220228_204411.jpgIMG_20220228_204306.jpgIMG_20220228_203952.jpgIMG_20220228_171459.jpg
If you side the ambidextrous button down the blade opens by way of a toothed spine that actuates a correspondingly notched cam on the pivot. Hope that makes sense?
It deploys very snappily once I cleaned and oiled it. The wrap around tortoise appears real and the whole deal is a lovely little package.
Thought you fellas might enjoy seeing it as much as I did.
Very cool Ed!
Thanks for showing it to us!
EDIT: After re-reading your OP ED I see you asked if anyone could suggest a possible use for your knife, and a gentleman's finger-nail cleaning knife came to mind!
Also, am I understanding this correctly that when you pull/push the button the blade opens in correspondence with the sliding of the button a notch at a time?
Thx!
Sorry Marco, managed to miss this post somehow.
Yes that's it exactly. The button is attached to a sliding spine that rotates the blade correspondingly as both are mated together with teeth/notches.
There is close tolerances and some skill in its design and construction imo.
As to its use it is very pointy and ground thin for a sharp edge. The steel is definitely heat treated as is holding a good edge. I think its just a small utility knife?
Thanks for your explanation Ed, I get it now!
There is no need to apologize for overlooking a post, there are so many of them to keep up with it seems like a job sometimes! That's a really cool little knife you have there, thanks again for showing it to us!