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Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:37 pm
by tvic
Got this knife from michbou42 on Ebay. It was advertised as a Pal Cutlery knife with “This knife has flaws just like any used item. Used See pictures. You get what you see pictured” as the description. Nice Pal tang stamp as you can see, but the small blade has Remington on it, so apparently one of the blades has been replaced. Could it be a Remington where the large blade was replaced or a PAL where the small blade was replaced? Either way, I obviously don’t have a completely original knife. Am I blaming the seller - nope. My fault for not being more observant. The Remington could been seen in a photo of the whole knife, but certainly not a close-up like the Pal tang stamp. And because of that, I didn’t pick up on the Remington stamp.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:47 pm
by edge213
tvic wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:37 pm Got this knife from michbou42 on Ebay. It was advertised as a Pal Cutlery knife with “This knife has flaws just like any used item. Used See pictures. You get what you see pictured” as the description. Nice Pal tang stamp as you can see, but the small blade has Remington on it, so apparently one of the blades has been replaced. Could it be a Remington where the large blade was replaced or a PAL where the small blade was replaced? Either way, I obviously don’t have a completely original knife. Am I blaming the seller - nope. My fault for not being more observant. The Remington could been seen in a photo of the whole knife, but certainly not a close-up like the Pal tang stamp. And because of that, I didn’t pick up on the Remington stamp.
I'm no Remington/Pal expert, but I suppose it's possible than when Pal bought Remington (1940,I believe) they had leftover blades stamped Remington. The would not have thrown them away, so maybe one got installed in your knife.

Hopefully one of the Remington experts will post shortly.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:56 pm
by TripleF
edge213 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:47 pm
tvic wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:37 pm Got this knife from michbou42 on Ebay. It was advertised as a Pal Cutlery knife with “This knife has flaws just like any used item. Used See pictures. You get what you see pictured” as the description. Nice Pal tang stamp as you can see, but the small blade has Remington on it, so apparently one of the blades has been replaced. Could it be a Remington where the large blade was replaced or a PAL where the small blade was replaced? Either way, I obviously don’t have a completely original knife. Am I blaming the seller - nope. My fault for not being more observant. The Remington could been seen in a photo of the whole knife, but certainly not a close-up like the Pal tang stamp. And because of that, I didn’t pick up on the Remington stamp.
I'm no Remington/Pal expert, but I suppose it's possible than when Pal bought Remington (1940,I believe) they had leftover blades stamped Remington. The would not have thrown them away, so maybe one got installed in your knife.

Hopefully one of the Remington experts will post shortly.
I'm not one of the experts but do agree with David!!

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:06 pm
by gsmith7158
Yes that was the case. When Pal bought the Remington factory they did use up the blades that were left but as the other guys said I don't know enough about the knives to say whether or not it's original.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:12 pm
by treefarmer
I would give it a “ ::tu:: “ because of the reason stated.
I’ve got a small bunch of Pals and find them very interesting.
Treefarmer

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:15 pm
by knifegnome
I have owned a Pal with a Remington blade (wish I didn't sell it) and have seen a couple others,Mine was the same pattern as yours but with bone handles.Blade could have been added but most likely original,Great catch.
Scott

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:27 pm
by tvic
I’m always impressed with the brain power on this Forum! Because of your explanation, David, I started looking and just now ran across this: “ Transition knives are found with a number of different Remington tang stamps, but always have accompanying PAL BLADE CO. MADE IN THE USA stamped blade or blades.” So, it appears I shouldn’t be so disappointed. Pal bought Remington in 1939, so it’s more likely this is from those transition years in the early Forties. Thanks for all the reassurances, guys!

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:34 pm
by terryl308
I believe you have a transition knife, just another "wrinkle" in the knife collecting. Nice knife ::tu:: Terry

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:37 pm
by btrwtr
This would be called a transition knife. I’ve owned a few and in my experience they will be worth a bit more than a Pal only stamped knife. All good.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:57 pm
by Ridgegrass
TVIC: Here's a 4", "REM-PAL" or PAL-'REM" . Odd pattern too. Clip and long spay on a stockman-style frame. Clip is PAL, Spay is REMINGTON. No pattern #.
These mixed marked knives are around and I'd bet somebody collects them. Regards, J.O'.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:59 pm
by edge213
tvic wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:27 pm I’m always impressed with the brain power on this Forum! Because of your explanation, David, I started looking and just now ran across this: “ Transition knives are found with a number of different Remington tang stamps, but always have accompanying PAL BLADE CO. MADE IN THE USA stamped blade or blades.” So, it appears I shouldn’t be so disappointed. Pal bought Remington in 1939, so it’s more likely this is from those transition years in the early Forties. Thanks for all the reassurances, guys!
::tu::

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:19 pm
by CluelessNick
and where else in the world would you be able to get this info. this forum is amazing

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:12 pm
by treefarmer
Ridgegrass wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:57 pm TVIC: Here's a 4", "REM-PAL" or PAL-'REM" . Odd pattern too. Clip and long spay on a stockman-style frame. Clip is PAL, Spay is REMINGTON. No pattern #.
These mixed marked knives are around and I'd bet somebody collects them. Regards, J.O'.
I believe this knife would qualify as a "moose pattern".
What do y'all think?
Treefarmer

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:15 pm
by edge213
treefarmer wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:12 pm
Ridgegrass wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:57 pm TVIC: Here's a 4", "REM-PAL" or PAL-'REM" . Odd pattern too. Clip and long spay on a stockman-style frame. Clip is PAL, Spay is REMINGTON. No pattern #.
These mixed marked knives are around and I'd bet somebody collects them. Regards, J.O'.
I believe this knife would qualify as a "moose pattern".
What do y'all think?
Treefarmer
Yes

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:53 pm
by 98src
I once owned a Remington 2 blade jack knife and the big blade was etched PAL BLADE CO.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:41 pm
by Ridgegrass
My impression of a "Moose" is like this Catt. It's a bigger, thicker, and heavier knife than the "REM-PAL" I posted. The Catt has a big clip and a big spear. Maybe different makers called them differently. I claim no authority on anything. I'm just a student in this hobby??? :D Mine is wired inside of a hardware sales case so I can't take a close up of it.
J.O'.

Re: Looks like I screwed up again

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:02 pm
by bighomer
Or a semi- improved muskrat. ::uc:: ::woot:: ::super_happy::