All About Pocket Knives

Supposedly these are being made in the old Queen factory-

https://www.cutlerycorner.net/Products/Search?p1=WEED

You would think if they are made in the USA they would be stamped USA.
They also seem overpriced to me.

Novelty item made to appeal to a certain segment of the population. surprised they’re not a tacticool flipper design, neon green or similar.

Ken

I don't like to be negative here, or sound whiny. I saw these the other day, looking at some of the first new Schatt and Morgans, and my answer was, quite honestly, "What in the heck?!!!". And was the guy who set the prices stoned himself at the time?


The subject matter chosen is somewhat controversial; and more suited to cheap POS knives; not knives that outprice GECs and at MSRP are getting into high-end custom knife money (at $400, I'm buying a Randall!). These are knives that would look quite good with more generic (and family-friendly) shields, etches, and tang stamps. Especially if these are the only line being produced by this hitherto unknown maker.

And are these, truly, American-made knives? They look like something from Frost to me.

Personally, I think they should be ignored.

Appreciate your replies, not my cup o' tea either but I bet some collectors are buying them. I agree, usually this motif has tweeker appeal.

FRJ wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:47 pm Personally, I think they should be ignored.

I think I will too. Why have a MSRP of $390 and then sell them for $185? And if made in USA, why are they not marked?

They look a little Frosty to me.
You'd think if they were USA made they'd be marked.

With lame-o knives like these at nosebleed prices, the site should be called Cutlery Coronary...one look at the prices and...well, you get the idea.

According to Goins, Weed & Co. was a hardware wholesale/retail house in Buffalo NY from 1818-1923. I doubt George and Thaddeus Weed were also into hemp derivatives, but who can say? These knives seem like another appropriation of an old and venerable name for someone's quick profit.

beresman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:06 am According to Goins, Weed & Co. was a hardware wholesale/retail house in Buffalo NY from 1818-1923. I doubt George and Thaddeus Weed were also into hemp derivatives, but who can say? These knives seem like another appropriation of an old and venerable name for someone's quick profit.

Thanks for that info! I figured it was pure marketing for their target buyers, good to know there's some historic knife maker reference. It would be nice to see an original knife stamp from back then.

Edit* Just found the same information in Levine's 4th.

beresman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:06 am According to Goins, Weed & Co. was a hardware wholesale/retail house in Buffalo NY from 1818-1923. I doubt George and Thaddeus Weed were also into hemp derivatives, but who can say? These knives seem like another appropriation of an old and venerable name for someone's quick profit.

With SMKW and Frost, I've been seeing a lot of old name; either they bought it (i.e. Queen, Remington in very recent history) or hasn't been used in so long it's public domain--slap it on cheap knife=$$$$


I want to say I saw some Frost Rodgers knives. Given Egginton still owns the Joseph Rodgers trademark and produces knives using the brand (albeit not so easily found in the US anymore), I guess Frost was sued by Egginton, and the knives taken off the market as I used to see them a lot on eBay a couple years back, and now they are no more.

I also saw these while checking out the new S&M knives. I found both to be priced pretty high, especially compared to a known quantity like GEC or Case.

Just a little bit of information in these.

They were not made by Queen. They are being made in Winchester Ohio by Cooper Cutlery. They are stamped Winchester Ohio on the backs of each tang. These were produced in 2021. Parts were sourced with foreign and domestic parts. All parts assembled in USA. Much the same as all Modern Case knives state on their boxes. They come new in tubes with warranty information as well as information on each knife.

Hope this clears some things up.

I just bought one from Eagle Creek Cutlery from Jon Paul, he sells all kinds of knives. He said it’s his hottest selling knife, and they didn’t make many. I personally like it better than my case knife

Much like most GECs, I'm probably missing this train.

If I was a betting man, I'd put $5 down on Ryan Daniels having something to do with these.

1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:44 pm Much like most GECs, I'm probably missing this train.

If I was a betting man, I'd put $5 down on Ryan Daniels having something to do with these.

I do not know if you're missing the train but I do know you'd lose the 5 dollars.

-Matt

Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:14 pm

1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:44 pm Much like most GECs, I'm probably missing this train.

If I was a betting man, I'd put $5 down on Ryan Daniels having something to do with these.

I do not know if you're missing the train but I do know you'd lose the 5 dollars.

-Matt

So what's the inside scoop on these, Matt? If you don't mind me asking? Cutlery Corner said on aire they were made at the old Queen factory. I can old go by what I hear or read. Thanks.

John

1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:18 pm

Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:14 pm

1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:44 pm Much like most GECs, I'm probably missing this train.

If I was a betting man, I'd put $5 down on Ryan Daniels having something to do with these.

I do not know if you're missing the train but I do know you'd lose the 5 dollars.

-Matt

So what's the inside scoop on these, Matt? If you don't mind me asking? Cutlery Corner said on aire they were made at the old Queen factory. I can old go by what I hear or read. Thanks.

John

Cutlery Corner made a mistake on their information. They are being made USING the old Queen Dies and Machines that we purchased from the Queen Factory when they closed their doors. They have absolutely NO other correlation with Queen other than using their old tooling/machines/dies etc. They are being made with imported and domestic parts in Winchester Ohio in the USA. Cooper Cutlery owns the trademarks. The Daniels Family are not involved with these knives at all.

Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:25 pm

1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:18 pm

Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:14 pm

I do not know if you're missing the train but I do know you'd lose the 5 dollars.

-Matt

So what's the inside scoop on these, Matt? If you don't mind me asking? Cutlery Corner said on aire they were made at the old Queen factory. I can old go by what I hear or read. Thanks.

John

Cutlery Corner made a mistake on their information. They are being made USING the old Queen Dies and Machines that we purchased from the Queen Factory when they closed their doors. They have absolutely NO other correlation with Queen other than using their old tooling/machines/dies etc. They are being made with imported and domestic parts in Winchester Ohio in the USA. Cooper Cutlery owns the trademarks. The Daniels Family are not involved with these knives at all.

Thank you. Do you know who is behind making these? Are they like SFOs?

Parts were sourced with foreign and domestic parts. All parts assembled in USA. Much the same as all Modern Case knives state on their boxes.

Please - show me a Case box that states that in those words. The implication is that Case is using both foreign and domestic parts. Not saying that you're wrong, perhaps you are correct, but I personally have never heard of Case using foreign made parts, nor have I seen that stated on their boxes.

But again, you may be right, I would just like to see it.

knifeaholic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:50 am

Parts were sourced with foreign and domestic parts. All parts assembled in USA. Much the same as all Modern Case knives state on their boxes.

Please - show me a Case box that states that in those words. The implication is that Case is using both foreign and domestic parts. Not saying that you're wrong, perhaps you are correct, but I personally have never heard of Case using foreign made parts, nor have I seen that stated on their boxes.

But again, you may be right, I would just like to see it.

I apologize the wording was incorrect. I should have said Imported instead of foreign.

Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:49 am

knifeaholic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:50 am

Parts were sourced with foreign and domestic parts. All parts assembled in USA. Much the same as all Modern Case knives state on their boxes.

Please - show me a Case box that states that in those words. The implication is that Case is using both foreign and domestic parts. Not saying that you're wrong, perhaps you are correct, but I personally have never heard of Case using foreign made parts, nor have I seen that stated on their boxes.

But again, you may be right, I would just like to see it.

I apologize the wording was incorrect. I should have said Imported instead of foreign.

What's the label say on the pictured box? IIRC that statement may have been on the Mini-Blackhorn, possibly another lower cost Case pattern, but it's not what "all Modern Case knives state on their boxes". Maybe your use of "modern" is referring to "tactical" patterns? It's certainly not on the boxes of any recently made traditional patterns (like the OP "Weed" trapper) I've seen.

Ken

Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:11 am

Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:49 am

knifeaholic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:50 am

Please - show me a Case box that states that in those words. The implication is that Case is using both foreign and domestic parts. Not saying that you're wrong, perhaps you are correct, but I personally have never heard of Case using foreign made parts, nor have I seen that stated on their boxes.

But again, you may be right, I would just like to see it.

I apologize the wording was incorrect. I should have said Imported instead of foreign.

What's the label say on the pictured box? IIRC that statement may have been on the Mini-Blackhorn, possibly another lower cost Case pattern, but it's not what "all Modern Case knives state on their boxes". Maybe your use of "modern" is referring to "tactical" patterns? It's certainly not on the boxes of any recently made traditional patterns (like the OP "Weed" trapper) I've seen.

Ken

“All” was a poor choice of words. I’m not sure which knife goes with the box in the picture. It may be a tactical folder or something that is only sold in California. My intention was only to pass on the information about the weed and company knives and I should have stayed on track.

Well, curiosity killed this cat. Ordered.

It looks more like a Folding Hunter than a Barlow to me.