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Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:41 am
by DMLEATH
I have another Wards knife and I looked through my book on Winchester and didn’t find one that looks real close. I may not have a complete set. Would this one look like another maker? Thanks for any input! The knife is 3 5/8” long closed

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:43 am
by DMLEATH
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Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:10 am
by doglegg
Love the old bones. ::tu::

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:33 am
by Gone2Three
The bone and style almost looks similar to Camillus... ::hmm::

Agreed...nice bones y'a got there!

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:18 am
by edge213
Gone2Three wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:33 am The bone and style almost looks similar to Camillus... ::hmm::

Agreed...nice bones y'a got there!
I thought the same.

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:12 pm
by msteele6
Whenever I look at a Winchester (Walden) made knife, I always look at the shield first. Frequently Winchester (when I say Winchester that includes many Keen Kutters, Wards, and, of course, Walden made knives) the shield is quite distinctive. In this case, obviously, there is no shield, and so, there is no help there. The second thing I look at is the spey blade, if there is one. In this case there is a spey, but it is so worn it's a little difficult to tell, however, it does look like a Walden style spey, what's left of it. Another thing I look at is the punch. In this case the punch is diagnostic for me , the punch on this knife is the Utica style punch. For that reason I would attribute this knife to Utica. JMO

P.S. For me, it is often impossible to tell a Camillus from a Utica (Kutmaster) I have even seen Camillus knives with the Utica style punch, it almost seems that they were copying each other. However, most Camillus cattle knives of this era had grooved bolsters and the normal Camillus punch. Of course there were exceptions.

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:54 am
by DMLEATH
msteele6 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:12 pm Whenever I look at a Winchester (Walden) made knife, I always look at the shield first. Frequently Winchester (when I say Winchester that includes many Keen Kutters, Wards, and, of course, Walden made knives) the shield is quite distinctive. In this case, obviously, there is no shield, and so, there is no help there. The second thing I look at is the spey blade, if there is one. In this case there is a spey, but it is so worn it's a little difficult to tell, however, it does look like a Walden style spey, what's left of it. Another thing I look at is the punch. In this case the punch is diagnostic for me , the punch on this knife is the Utica style punch. For that reason I would attribute this knife to Utica. JMO

P.S. For me, it is often impossible to tell a Camillus from a Utica (Kutmaster) I have even seen Camillus knives with the Utica style punch, it almost seems that they were copying each other. However, most Camillus cattle knives of this era had grooved bolsters and the normal Camillus punch. Of course there were exceptions.
Very helpful- thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:20 pm
by Ridgegrass
Agree on the Utica origin. Just looks like many of the Utica knives I own. JMO.
J.O'.

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:18 am
by edge213
msteele6 wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:12 pm Whenever I look at a Winchester (Walden) made knife, I always look at the shield first. Frequently Winchester (when I say Winchester that includes many Keen Kutters, Wards, and, of course, Walden made knives) the shield is quite distinctive. In this case, obviously, there is no shield, and so, there is no help there. The second thing I look at is the spey blade, if there is one. In this case there is a spey, but it is so worn it's a little difficult to tell, however, it does look like a Walden style spey, what's left of it. Another thing I look at is the punch. In this case the punch is diagnostic for me , the punch on this knife is the Utica style punch. For that reason I would attribute this knife to Utica. JMO

P.S. For me, it is often impossible to tell a Camillus from a Utica (Kutmaster) I have even seen Camillus knives with the Utica style punch, it almost seems that they were copying each other. However, most Camillus cattle knives of this era had grooved bolsters and the normal Camillus punch. Of course there were exceptions.
Interesting. Thanks for the education. ::tu::
After reading your post I can see Utica.

Re: Another Wards Knife Question?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:07 am
by DMLEATH
Not a new knife but if anyone is interested I have it on EBay. Here is the link.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-WARDS- ... 632-2357-0