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Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:11 am
by raincrowe
a folding hunter marked Hibbert Spencer Bartlett....Knife is 4 1/2 inches 2 blades both marked...... has a buffalo head shield on the handles... believe to be Utica Nessmuk pattern Knife is used seems to be original....Would like to know more about knife?

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:22 pm
by kootenay joe
I think this pattern is a Jumbo Trapper rather than a Folding Hunter. Neat old knife but i do not know who made it. Certainly could have been Utica.
kj

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:39 am
by raincrowe
I can see why it would be called a Large Trapper.....I heard once that it made by Utica in the Nessmuk pattern maybe someone will have the answer......What is the Nessmuk pattern?

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 11:44 am
by peanut740
Utica made for sure. ::tu::

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 12:20 pm
by gsmith7158
Check out the answer by msteele in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26007&p=230488&hili ... uk#p230488

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 12:53 pm
by raincrowe
Wow...Thanks for the information ::tu::

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:17 pm
by raincrowe
It's been awhile but thought I would revisit the Jumbo trapper!. The name Nessmuk and the shield of a bison, muck oxen ect.. got me wondering what type of animal this shield represents!....After consulting msteele thread I found out that creature was a Wood Drake also the pen name of
George Washington Sears a sportswriter for Forest and Stream

https://www.knivesillustrated.com/the-n ... s-history/

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:43 pm
by 1967redrider
Very sweet knife and cool info. Utica used these shields, could have made this knife too (edit-* I see you stated that in the OP.)

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:08 am
by raincrowe
I found more information on the knife...
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... 1824170876

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:45 pm
by 1967redrider
Thanks, raincrowe. ::handshake:: I did not know Boker was the first to use Acorn shields.

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:31 pm
by raincrowe
Thank you!!....Just lucky finding the information happy to share.... After all these years owning the knife It's good to know more about it!
My knife has beautiful bone handles no cracks and the blades has been sharpened shows some wear snaps well overall a very good knife to be
one hundred years old... Funny I was thinking the shield would represent a musk oxen type beast but "Nessmuk" the penname for G.W.Sears is actually the name of his childhood friend meaning Wood Drake quite different from the bull-head shield....Nessmuk is a knife pattern great information..
I would like to see more Nessmuk knives ... Utica made these knives for other companies if any show them would be great to show them... ::tu::

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:21 pm
by JasonCat
Here is a snippet from an early Utica catalog of the earliest version of the Nessmuk they produced and a few from my collection. Catalog description says ebony but it is a vulcanized fiber material similar to early swiss army knives I think. They also made some in genuine stag! I believe they began making the two bladed, non-locking version you have either before Remingtons R1123 or in order to compete with the R1123...

The large camp knives were "Kit Carson" knives and some are even stamped so on the blades! There is even an elephant toe with the bison shield.

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:21 pm
by 1967redrider
Here's a link to a Blish Mize & Silliman Hardware utility knife I have with a Buffalo/Bison head shield. It's on the rather large 5"+ side.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... ze#p904042

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:13 pm
by luckydog64
Wow nice collection of Buffalo Heads JasonCat.

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:33 pm
by 1967redrider
I agree! Are any of those 5 3/4" utility knives? 3 look like they could be.

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:34 pm
by FRJ
That's a good looking group of knives. ::tu::

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:48 pm
by raincrowe
Awesome...Good looking bunch of knives...

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:43 pm
by JasonCat
Thanks all!

The jumbo camp knives measure a whopping 4 3/4 inches so not quite 5 inches but much larger than your average "scout" utility knife.

I dont mean to derail this thread too much from the HSB bison head trappers but just wanted to show Utica probably made the Blish Mize knife too! Here are catalog snippets from Blish Mize and Utica for the elephant toe. 🙂

Re: Hibbert Spencer Bartlett Folding Hunter

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:50 am
by raincrowe
Great Information..... Gions Encyclopedia of cutlery markings....Page 283.. 1928 Utica excerpt states
the Utica made the Nessmuk pattern with bull-head shield for many different hardware companies ::tu::