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This one came in yesterdays mail.
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Nice one! ::drool:: ::drool::
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Thanks Dale. The way I understand it, either kingston made a hawkbill for John Primble (lie the one pictured, only with primble tang) or it's the other way around ::shrug::
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I think Ulster/Kingston/Schrade made the Primbles.
LT would know for sure.

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ulster u.s.a. became kingston in 1943. and part of the imperial knife association, in 1947. - levines
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Here's an old ka-bar I picked up with rosewood handles. It needs a lil TLC.
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It has been a bit quiet in here lately. I thought I would add some ones I have picked up recently.

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If the tip hadn't been sharpened off on this knife, it would be in about as good condition as one could reasonably expect to find a used knife of this age.
If the tip hadn't been sharpened off on this knife, it would be in about as good condition as one could reasonably expect to find a used knife of this age.
These were made by Camillus for Sears before Albert Baer left Camillus (1940) to purchase Ulster Knife Co. in January 1941. So my best guess at dating this one would be 1940 or before. 
<br />However, Goin's dates Dunlap as 1938-1942. Even though there seems t
These were made by Camillus for Sears before Albert Baer left Camillus (1940) to purchase Ulster Knife Co. in January 1941. So my best guess at dating this one would be 1940 or before.
However, Goin's dates Dunlap as 1938-1942. Even though there seems t
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Upon further checking I see the Schrade 136 was listed in the Open Stock knives until 1983 as an electrician's hawkbill.
If Charlie's observation about the electrician & utility hawkbill tips being less pointed is right, then the Schrade Walden 136 is in better condition than I had originally thought. The S-W stamp would likely date it to 1973 or before.

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nice ones Dale, ezpecially that S-W.

Hey, what do you want for that ulster? I don't have one of those yet, and they are one of my favorite brands. I've got a whole bunch of TL's (you seen the scan in the TL thread) :mrgreen:
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I don't know Kaleb......I think it is the only Ulster Hawk I have. I will have to look & see if I have another. I have 30 or so Ulsters & I think that is my only Ulster Hawk.

Now, if you can find some TL-29's that I don't have...........then we can talk. :lol:

Here is Klein Hawkbill I picked up a while ago.

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Just got to open this jewel tonight :shock:
I've dated it between 1940-64, am i correct or is
it earlier?
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Looks nice tank! Rosewood handles??
I don't know how to date Robesons, but it's in good condition, from here!
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Thanks Charlie! I do believe it has rosewood handles, they are beautiful in person.
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Nice Robeson Tank. ::tu:: ::tu::
I don't know how to date them either, sorry.

Here are a some more Hawkbills I have found. I think I need to get more organized. :oops:

Obviously some of these have seen some hard use.

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This is a Hawkbill version of an Ulster TL-29. The only one I have seen.
This is a Hawkbill version of an Ulster TL-29. The only one I have seen.
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I was cleaning up some knives that had grown into a pile on my desk. It was then I realized I had several variations of TL-29's with Hawkbill blades. Here are four.

The M Klein & Sons & the Electric Mate are three bladed patterns, though I didn't open the screwdriver blades.
The Electric Mate is made by Providence Cutlery Co. and has the unusual sheepsfoot, which is a fairly uncommon blade to be in a TL-29. But I have a thing for sheepfoot blades & Wharncliffe blades. :mrgreen:

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Nice ones Dale!!!

I'll be on the hunt for the great white TL-29 from here on out. :lol:
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I thought I had a couple more somewhere! ::doh::
I found the other Ulster on my list & also nice full Kutmaster.

Kaleb, get to looking for some odd ball or rare TL-29's. We can swap some for an Ulster Hawk. :mrgreen:

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That looks just like my kingston, only with a bail. OK that's it, I've gotta find some TL-29's. I've got a mint camillus, never carried used or sharpened, sure you can't add that one to your collection? :wink:
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muskrat man wrote:That looks just like my kingston, only with a bail. OK that's it, I've gotta find some TL-29's. I've got a mint camillus, never carried used or sharpened, sure you can't add that one to your collection? :wink:
I have a couple Cammie's still in the wrapper, unopened. Those are the easiest to get. :mrgreen:

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Here's two new ones to me that I needed for my collection. A Schrade Cut Co. Round butt and a Keen Kutter model 803 (Schrade made) square Butt. Two more I can mark off my ever growing list.
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Hey MM,
Nice ones! ::tu:: ::tu::
I just got a Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett hawk a couple days ago. It has real pretty wood, but some heavy pitting in the blade. I am waiting for another to arrive & will post pics. I also need to do some cleanup on the HS&B to really appreciate the beautiful rose wood handle.

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Thanks Dale, HS&B huh? Looking at my listit seems I don't have one of those :mrgreen: did you get me last email regarding the trade on the TL's?
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Great looking hawks Kaleb that square KK looks dang nice. Good scores
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I think I got the email, is that the one with the serrated one? I would be interested in it, but he needs a couple buddies to go with him for the Ulster. :wink:

Here is the HS&B I promised, plus three more I got in the mail today. Mailman was good to me today! :mrgreen:

There is a Kutmaster that was super rusty, I cleaned it a bit. This is my second Kutmaster Hawk.

I got another from the same guy who said he couldn't find a name on it. I thought it looked like my jigged Ulster. When I got it I took a rust eraser to the tang........Vola! Dunlap, & unless I miss my bet, it was made by Ulster. I will post the pic of the Ulster again for comparison.

The third Hawk in the mail today was a Holeb hawk version of a TL-29. I have one, but this one has a much fuller blade.

MM- keep looking for unusual TLs & we can work out a trade.

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I think we have some serious DNA matching going on here Dale, and Kaleb. Thursday's mail brought me this Kingston Hawk; look familiar??
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