Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:28 am

Miller Bro`s wrote:
orvet wrote:It seems these blades are much different in design than the blade in Willie’s knife.
Willie`s knife?

Sorry Dimitri, I got up early to make my wife's lunch.
Got to keep her happy!

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:10 pm

Here is another unusual old knife.

This one is from my friend Ellis, I am posting the pictures of his knife. It is an old Cattaraugus pencil/knife model P1. It appears that these were made in several different colors. The one I have is a mottled Green. This one is a Blue and Red mixture. He has also seen one that is all Black. These were probably made to match the fountain pen colors of the day.

This example is in like new condition seems to have never been used

Ellis has been researching these for some time now and has more interesting information on them that I will post shortly.

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:59 pm

that is cool. even got a tiny swedge like most old catts.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:56 am

More info on this Catt from Ellis:

The color of the pencil knife, grey w/ red veins, is extremely specific to fountain pens of its era. Shaeffer's fountain pens had a pen called the Balance Lifetime pen and pencil, which is the only pen of many manufacturers that exactly matches this plastic pattern. Shaeffer's always purchased all of the stock from the one plastic manufacturer (celluloid to be more specific) of this pattern, because the manufacturer would not give an exclusive to Shaeffer's. So other pen companies have similar patterns, but only Shaeffer's is an exact pattern match.

Here is the patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=IA5aAA ... &q&f=false

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:07 pm

And here is the original catalog cut................

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:19 am

This is my Bowen Concealed dagger belt knife..............

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:55 am

Miller Bro`s wrote: Dale, I doubt this is some type of comb. Here is another picture that shows it`s true size.

It is hard to see from the first picture I posted, it is tiny.

Ray is on the right track, it is some kind of medical instrument, I just don`t know exactly what it was used for, yet

Or? Could it be a leather working knife for small things like purses and wallets? The blade to cut the leather to pattern and the fork end to mark and prepunch for sewing?? Hey, one more guess isn't going to sink the boat.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:21 pm

Jerry,

I don`t know much about leather working, but I think this thing is too delicate for that kind of work

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:14 am

Miller Bro`s wrote:Jerry,

I don`t know much about leather working, but I think this thing is too delicate for that kind of work

Maybe it's some kind of bleeder knife.

Keep guessing and we're bound to get close sooner or later.

PA Knives · Post by **PA Knives** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:05 pm

Dimitri

Given the types of utensils and the fact it is a metal body, perhaps it is a surgical instrument?

Jacknifeben · Post by **Jacknifeben** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:31 am

Here are my P1 CATTARAUGUS lead pencil--knives. All 3 are different, 2 have a nail file for the second blade and 1 has a pen blade. The one with the pen blade has a different pocket clip and is all 1 piece. All 3 have names or advertising, E.H. HAMEL LEATHER CO. GLAZED KID--LAMBSKINS, SAM MILLER, and C.E.LEPORGE. All are tang stamped CATTARAUGUS STAINLESS. All 3 are different lengths with the brown one being the shortest.

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:15 pm

I have a newer pen knife made by Case XX...

....also an old brass gravity knife and a J.A.Henckels trick knife.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:47 pm

Nice ones J

I like the Case XX, can you still buy them?

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:26 pm

Thanks Dimitri.

......I'm not for sure if you can still buy them or not..

....I got mine from HHKnives here at AAPK.

IMBand · Post by **IMBand** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:07 am

Had this around for years, local guy sells them at the craft fair.

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:03 am

That’s

, Trevor.

...I like that.

IMBand · Post by **IMBand** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:48 pm

Thanks JR!!

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:52 pm

i had found one peacock knife . Dimitri had posted another one . head looks like carved ivory. still very unusual knife

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:58 pm

Cool knife,Paul.

....very unusual.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:51 am

Nice find Paul

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:24 am

Miller Bro`s wrote:Nice find Paul

thanks, Guys

gino · Post by **gino** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:59 pm

That is one strange bird! LOL

Joe Dirt · Post by **Joe Dirt** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:41 pm

That's one unique bird Paul.

How do you catch a unique bird?
How do you catch a tame bird?

Here's one like MB posted earlier in this thread.
This one is stamped Stainless Japan and the handles are made from molded aluminum.

...... Joe

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:56 pm

How do you catch a unique bird?

Unique up on him.

How do you catch a tame bird?

Tame way.

Haven't seen much of you lately, Joe. Where ya been?

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:13 pm

I like it Joe

It seems to be of better quality than the one I posted

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