Ode To The 07

Doc B · Post by **Doc B** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:35 pm

Jerry, I like your latest patriotic acquisitions!

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:40 pm

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:18 pm A lesson to us all: Never underestimate the power of suggestion (or the sapidity of icing on the cake!)

I get "the power of suggestion" reference, it's the "sapidity of icing on the cake" that went flying over the top of my head. (the first several times I read it, I read it as the stupidity of icing on the cake). I'm just a little feeble minded today.

Because I had never run into that word before, I googled "sapidity" and got this: What does relish flavor flavour sapidity savor savour smack nip tang(noun)the taste experience when a savoury condiment is taken into the mouth sapidity sapidness(noun)a pleasant flavor mean?

Noun: Sapid character or property; the property of stimulating or pleasing the palate; tastefulness; savor; relish.

I'm still floundering on that one. Too deep for my shallow mind.

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:13 am

Sorry, jerryd, my intent was not to confuse; but, you know me...always looking for the perfect word to describe that intangible feeling of getting a new knife to add to your collection. None of the words I would normally employ seemed adequate in this instance so I did a bit of connotative gymnastics and...well...I think you get my meaning: That is a beautiful knife, exquisitely tasteful.

Now...does said beautiful knife have a pile side or are you going to be a Grinch and keep that part all to yourself? Mini T Monkey feeds vicariously on OPP (Other Peoples' Photos).

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:25 am

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:13 am Sorry, jerryd, my intent was not to confuse; but, you know me...always looking for the perfect word to describe that intangible feeling of getting a new knife to add to your collection. None of the words I would normally employ seemed adequate in this instance so I did a bit of connotative gymnastics and...well...I think you get my meaning: That is a beautiful knife, exquisitely tasteful.

Now...does said beautiful knife have a pile side or are you going to be a Grinch and keep that part all to yourself? Mini T Monkey feeds vicariously on OPP (Other Peoples' Photos).

What the heck do I know ~Q~?

The obvious answer is yes, it does have a pile side. It's interesting the way they made it. Smooth blue bone with inlets for the bars and stars filled with some type of plastic or something. I'm really impressed with it in hand.

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:43 am

So, it's even more interesting than I had thought. I just assumed the handle was laser etched; it never occurred to me that the design was inlay. That's pretty cool.

The bone on the matching trapper pair (07 & 54) is etched, right?

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:11 am

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:43 am
The bone on the matching trapper pair (07 & 54) is etched, right?

Relief carved.

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:15 am

Here's an interesting Mini Trapper that you don't see every day.

Apparently, Queen City USA Cozy Glen Classic Knives was a series by Ken Daniels that led to the start of Great Eastern Cutlery (according to the seller, Courtney Daniels, aka: knifegirl).

This Jigged Green Bone Mini Trapper measures 3½" closed.

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:30 am

Oh my! That's a beaut.

doglegg · Post by **doglegg** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:59 pm

Quite a pretty and unusually stamped knife. Congrats.

jmh58 · Post by **jmh58** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:34 pm

Real nice Queen Mini-T there Q..

John

Lansky1 · Post by **Lansky1** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:54 pm

THat Queen CIty is really unusual ... nice addition Q !

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:55 am

Thank you all.

As I was placing my newest Mini T in it's proper place in my Queen storage case, OCD Monkey suddenly became fixated on the variations in master clip blade geometry between some of the different Queen-made Mini Ts in my collection. Presumably, these are all Queen #51 frames. The three in the center (Queen City Cozy Glenn Green Bone, Dan Burke Winterbottom Bone, earlier Queen #51T ACSB) all seem to have the same master blade. The S&M on either end is each unique. The clip blade on the Yellow Bone Moore Maker and the later model Queen #51T ACSB are similar but not quite an exact match.

Check 'em out. What do you think?

Modern Slip Joints · Post by **Modern Slip Joints** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:41 am

Fitst, I think the three knives in the center have Turkish clip point blades. In GEC pattern numbers that shape is #8. My memory of Queen/Schatt & Morgan pattern numbers is not good.

Second, I think the standard clip point blades in the top and bottom Schatt & Morgans and also the Queen ACBS, the second knife down, were stamped out with the same die then ground differently to get the different swages and nail nicks. In GEC pattern numbers they'd be #1. That covers the six Queens in this picture. It looks like your Queen made stag Robeson's master blade was stamped out with the same standard clip point die.

Third, I've read rumors here that wrote Moore Maker owns their own dies and loans them to the manufacturers they pay to makes their knives. That would account for having an additional blade shape that is not different enough for Queen to have gone to the expense of making the dies or stocking the blades. I'm curious if the handle is also a little different in shape, length or the location of the pins.

It would have been polite to thank-you for posting all the pictures of your stag Mini-Ts sooner but I was out of town over Christmas. Thank-you. Better late than never.

If the monkey ever decides that your Queen made stag Robeson does not fit in your collection then we could discuss me adopting it. I'd give it a loving home.

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:55 am

Modern Slip Joints wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:41 am If the monkey ever decides that your Queen made stag Robeson does not fit in your collection then we could discuss me adopting it. I'd give it a loving home.

I'm very glad you made this declaration of interest in one of my knives M Slip J because it gives me the opportunity to explain my knife collecting philosophy for the benefit of those who may not yet understand.

I am somewhat of a collector/accumulator hybrid. While it's true that I have certain specific knives that I collect, i.e., jealously & greedily hoard, and never expect to sell, trade or part with in this lifetime, the truth of the matter is that a significant portion of my knives are transitional or what I consider a temporary accumulation. These "temporary" knives are in a constant state of flux, always coming in or going out depending on my whims and fancies (and/or my surplus/deficit of disposable funds) at any particular time.

For those of you who know me here on AAPK, it may be hard to imagine Mini T Monkey ever deciding that any mini trapper doesn't "fit" in my collection (especially one with stag handles); however, you should also know that I am all about spreading Mini T Love by any means possible, especially through adoption to a loving home (admittedly, some of you have been subjected to "forced adoption", but that's only because I felt you were worthy recipients who would provide loving homes to my beloved Mini Ts).

Modern Slip Joints, I have sent you a PM...let's see if we can make this Robeson Stag Mini Trapper adoption happen.

Here's the "adoptee" in question: Robeson Sure Edge "Frozen Heat" RB51S, Exclusive "1 of 100", Stag, 3½" Mini Trapper, New In Original Box, Excellent Opening/Closing Snap + Half-Stop (both blades)

Modern Slip Joints · Post by **Modern Slip Joints** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:57 am

Thank-you Q. The Robeson is now part of my family.

I like its stag's symmetrical shape and the bark on opposite sides matches well. Also I like stag that is just plump enough that the ends can be blended to smooth bone meeting the bolsters. Also thank-you for the unexpected AAPk cap.

It sure is nice to get a knife without having to deal with evil bay. Maybe next time I'll think of something to offer as trade. I have a few _207s. I want to hang on to my only 6207W. I'm sure you understand a fellow not wanting to loose his only _207W.

For those who do not know, the prior reply had Q's good pictures of the Robeson I adopted.

I have an unrelated Mini-T question. Case started with only one length of Trapper. It was a little under 4". It was discontinued and superseded by the shorter and longer _207 and _254. I have a vague recollection of an early Case Collector Club (CCC) reproduction that had the original length. I remember you showed us a CCC built on rhe 07 frame but IIRC that was made later. Is my memory good or not?

Lansky1 · Post by **Lansky1** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:14 am

Found this unusual aqua blue CCC mini-T ... probably my favorite color (I have a hard time resisting that in any pattern).

doglegg · Post by **doglegg** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:44 am

Sweet knife John.

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:59 am

Wow John, that is very nice. You're a lucky duck.

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:01 pm

Honestly, John, I don't know how you consistently manage to find the Mini Ts that send Mini T Monkey into a fit of frenzied lust and desire. I have one empty slot in my CCC Mini Trapper row that I've been trying to fill for months and that one you got is exactly what I need to complete the row. Hopefully there's another one just like it out there that will surface soon. I've noticed that very often two or three examples the same model will show up for sale within a short period of time, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that will be the case with this one.

Nice score!

Lansky1 · Post by **Lansky1** » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:08 pm

Thanks guys

Q - PM sent to OCD monkey

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:48 pm

Modern Slip Joints wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:57 am I have a vague recollection of an early Case Collector Club (CCC) reproduction that had the original length. I remember you showed us a CCC built on rhe 07 frame but IIRC that was made later. Is my memory good or not?

I have never seen a CCC 07 of any length other than 3½". However, I have seen, and used to own, Case Classic 07 reproductions in the original length of 3 7/8" which had a 62007½ pattern tang stamp. (I'll let you decide what that says about the condition of your memory.

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jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:19 pm

I guess I should adulterate the thread with this one.

Modern Slip Joints · Post by **Modern Slip Joints** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:34 pm

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:48 pm I have never seen a CCC 07 of any length other than 3½". However, I have seen, and used to own, Case Classic 07 reproductions in the original length of 3 7/8" which had a 62007½ pattern tang stamp. (I'll let you decide what that says about the condition of your memory. )

That must be what I remembered. Manufacture by Queen would explain the length not matching any pattern Case has made for about a century. Hopefully the forum can put off locking me in the Alzheimer's ward.

QTCut5 · Post by **QTCut5** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:51 pm

jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:19 pm I guess I should adulterate the thread with this one.

I may contest your use of the term "adulterate" because, as in the words of Shakespeare, "an 07 with any type of handle still cuts as keenly" (I'm paraphrasing, of course).

I hesitate to ask because it's probably obvious to everyone but me...

What does "LT" stand for?

The only thing I can imagine is "Lady Trapper" (kinda like the "Lady Case" blade etch on the Pink Bubba Gum 6107W)

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:10 pm

LT = Light (or at least I think it does) --- And that doesn't stand for Light in the Loafers (or at least I don't think it does).

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