Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[edge213]

How about Josey with Glocks!

[Mumbleypeg]

Important read

Subtitle: If gun control is gaining steam in Congress, chances are Sen. John Cornyn is nearby, working on a ‘compromise’ with Democrats.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, is the first to announce his campaign to replace Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., as the Senate’s Republican leader. The race for leadership will expose a weakness of Cornyn — his lack of support for Americans’ right to self-defense. “Every time gun control gains steam in Congress, Senator John Cornyn is right there working with Democrats on a ‘compromise,’” says Aidan Johnston with Gun Owners Of America. Unfortunately, Johnston is correct.
Cornyn sponsored the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA) and was responsible for negotiating the deal with Senate Democrats. “More than any other senator, Cornyn is responsible for shepherding the landmark legislation through a chamber,” as The Texas Tribune described it. Cornyn was reportedly motivated by the desire to prevent another Uvalde school massacre. However, the final bill turned out to be nothing short of a disaster, and the changes in background checks would do nothing to stop that attack.
Soon after the BSCA passed, Texas Republicans understood what the law’s ramifications meant and vigorously booed Cornyn during his speech at the state party convention.
The bill allowed the Biden administration to push rules that would forbid federal funding for schools that have hunting or archery classes. Fortunately, when that became clear, Congress voted overwhelmingly to undo that part of the BSCA.
But more damaging are the law’s provisions allowing Biden to impose the Democrats’ long-desired wish list on background checks on all private transfers and sales for guns, something that will help them put together a more complete national gun registry of law-abiding Americans.
Although federal law explicitly prohibits the creation of a federal firearm registry, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) published a 108-page proposal at the end of August that would allow the Biden administration to use the bill to require universal background checks on all gun transfers and to track virtually everyone who obtains a gun. To make things even worse, ATF whistleblowers leaked that the proposal had grown to 1,300 pages a month ago.
By early 2021, the ATF created a digital database containing almost a billion firearm transactions. To fill in the blanks, Biden pressured credit card companies to track firearm purchases. The Bank of America has already given customers’ gun purchase data to the FBI without a warrant or probable cause.
Biden used the BSCA to make a tiny, seemingly trivial change in existing law. The federal government previously classified people as “gun dealers,” requiring them to get a license if they sold guns “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit.” The language in the BSCA reads: “predominantly earn a profit.”
The initial proposal put out by the Biden administration classifies you as a gun dealer if you sell a friend a gun once and discuss with them the sale of a second gun. Other rules cover you if you sell one gun and keep any record of what you bought and sold it for. The list goes on, and the leakers say the new regulations are much more extensive and will effectively ban gun sales since all purchasers will have to become licensed gun dealers or go to licensed dealers. It is all part of the Biden administration’s plan to complete its national gun registry.
While Biden is redefining everyone as a firearms dealer, Cornyn knew that Biden’s zero-tolerance policy for paperwork typos was putting thousands of dealers out of business.
Take the case of Tom Harris, who owns the Sporting Arms Co. in Lewisville, Texas, a disabled father of five who made a couple of small paperwork mistakes 16 and 17 years ago. Even the ATF under President Barack Obama cleared Harris, and he has made no mistakes since then. But the Biden administration reopened these old closed cases.
When Biden sold his zero-tolerance policy by claiming: “If you willfully sell a gun to someone who is prohibited from possessing it, if you willfully fail to run a background check, if you willfully falsify a record, if you willfully fail to cooperate with the tracing requests or inspections, my message to you is this: We’ll find you, and we will seek your license to sell guns.” Harris and others are not purposefully selling guns to criminals, but the government is coming for their licenses anyway.
The Biden administration pushes universal background checks and a gun registry as needed to solve crime. The new ATF rules focus on tracing guns used in crimes. In theory, if a criminal leaves a gun at a crime scene, police can trace the gun back to him. But outside of television crime shows, things don’t work that way.
Registration is useful for one purpose: confiscating guns. Australia, Canada, and the U.K. aren’t the only places using registration to ban and confiscate guns. California, Chicago, and Washington, D.C., also used registration to know who legally owned certain types of guns before banning them, and Biden continues to call for a ban on all semi-automatic guns.
The ATF has been having a rough time recently in the courts with its attempts to redefine terms already well-defined in the law. But thanks to Cornyn, the BSCA got around those obstacles and opened the door to a Democrat wish list of new gun-control regulations that will endanger lives.
John R. Lott, Jr., “If You Like The Second Amendment, You Don’t Want John Cornyn Anywhere Near Senate Leadership,” The Federalist, March 7, 2024.

[Paladin]

Awesome post John!

. . . Personally, when Clint passes, will be a sad day for me. . .

Jerry

I don't even want to think about it...

Ray

[Owd Wullie]

Cornyn was bought and paid for a long time ago. He's never been a friend of the Second Amendment.

[Thomasg]

Important read

Subtitle: If gun control is gaining steam in Congress, chances are Sen. John Cornyn is nearby, working on a ‘compromise’ with Democrats.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, is the first to announce his campaign to replace Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., as the Senate’s Republican leader. The race for leadership will expose a weakness of Cornyn — his lack of support for Americans’ right to self-defense. “Every time gun control gains steam in Congress, Senator John Cornyn is right there working with Democrats on a ‘compromise,’” says Aidan Johnston with Gun Owners Of America. Unfortunately, Johnston is correct.
Cornyn sponsored the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA) and was responsible for negotiating the deal with Senate Democrats. “More than any other senator, Cornyn is responsible for shepherding the landmark legislation through a chamber,” as The Texas Tribune described it. Cornyn was reportedly motivated by the desire to prevent another Uvalde school massacre. However, the final bill turned out to be nothing short of a disaster, and the changes in background checks would do nothing to stop that attack.
Soon after the BSCA passed, Texas Republicans understood what the law’s ramifications meant and vigorously booed Cornyn during his speech at the state party convention.
The bill allowed the Biden administration to push rules that would forbid federal funding for schools that have hunting or archery classes. Fortunately, when that became clear, Congress voted overwhelmingly to undo that part of the BSCA.
But more damaging are the law’s provisions allowing Biden to impose the Democrats’ long-desired wish list on background checks on all private transfers and sales for guns, something that will help them put together a more complete national gun registry of law-abiding Americans.
Although federal law explicitly prohibits the creation of a federal firearm registry, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) published a 108-page proposal at the end of August that would allow the Biden administration to use the bill to require universal background checks on all gun transfers and to track virtually everyone who obtains a gun. To make things even worse, ATF whistleblowers leaked that the proposal had grown to 1,300 pages a month ago.
By early 2021, the ATF created a digital database containing almost a billion firearm transactions. To fill in the blanks, Biden pressured credit card companies to track firearm purchases. The Bank of America has already given customers’ gun purchase data to the FBI without a warrant or probable cause.
Biden used the BSCA to make a tiny, seemingly trivial change in existing law. The federal government previously classified people as “gun dealers,” requiring them to get a license if they sold guns “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit.” The language in the BSCA reads: “predominantly earn a profit.”
The initial proposal put out by the Biden administration classifies you as a gun dealer if you sell a friend a gun once and discuss with them the sale of a second gun. Other rules cover you if you sell one gun and keep any record of what you bought and sold it for. The list goes on, and the leakers say the new regulations are much more extensive and will effectively ban gun sales since all purchasers will have to become licensed gun dealers or go to licensed dealers. It is all part of the Biden administration’s plan to complete its national gun registry.
While Biden is redefining everyone as a firearms dealer, Cornyn knew that Biden’s zero-tolerance policy for paperwork typos was putting thousands of dealers out of business.
Take the case of Tom Harris, who owns the Sporting Arms Co. in Lewisville, Texas, a disabled father of five who made a couple of small paperwork mistakes 16 and 17 years ago. Even the ATF under President Barack Obama cleared Harris, and he has made no mistakes since then. But the Biden administration reopened these old closed cases.
When Biden sold his zero-tolerance policy by claiming: “If you willfully sell a gun to someone who is prohibited from possessing it, if you willfully fail to run a background check, if you willfully falsify a record, if you willfully fail to cooperate with the tracing requests or inspections, my message to you is this: We’ll find you, and we will seek your license to sell guns.” Harris and others are not purposefully selling guns to criminals, but the government is coming for their licenses anyway.
The Biden administration pushes universal background checks and a gun registry as needed to solve crime. The new ATF rules focus on tracing guns used in crimes. In theory, if a criminal leaves a gun at a crime scene, police can trace the gun back to him. But outside of television crime shows, things don’t work that way.
Registration is useful for one purpose: confiscating guns. Australia, Canada, and the U.K. aren’t the only places using registration to ban and confiscate guns. California, Chicago, and Washington, D.C., also used registration to know who legally owned certain types of guns before banning them, and Biden continues to call for a ban on all semi-automatic guns.
The ATF has been having a rough time recently in the courts with its attempts to redefine terms already well-defined in the law. But thanks to Cornyn, the BSCA got around those obstacles and opened the door to a Democrat wish list of new gun-control regulations that will endanger lives.
John R. Lott, Jr., “If You Like The Second Amendment, You Don’t Want John Cornyn Anywhere Near Senate Leadership,” The Federalist, March 7, 2024.

After ruby ridge , Waco , and now Little Rock Arkansas I have come to the conclusion that the federal Government has no qualms about killing citizens who chose to follow the constitutional rights to bear and keep arms .

[Boji]

The various news sources I read stated that Malinowski fired shots at the ATF agents first. Why wouldn’t the agents return fire? What were they supposed to do? I doubt saying, Please don’t shoot at us would have done anything.

[bestgear]

You break a civil law and you lose your civil rights - this was not an ordinary citizen when 6 of the weapons that he sold were used in the commission of a crime. Sad how it came down but IMO this was not killing a citizen who chose to follow the constitutional rights to bear and keep arms.

[Thomasg]

The various news sources I read stated that Malinowski fired shots at the ATF agents first. Why wouldn’t the agents return fire? What were they supposed to do? I doubt saying, Please don’t shoot at us would have done anything.

Do you own a gun ? If you do and the door to your house was smashed in before daylight and your home was invade by masked men armed with an A15 in full body armor un announced what would be your reaction? Bryan had every right to defend his life and property from what he most likely thought was a home invasion and robbery .If had been a drug dealing thug , gangster , or gun runner I would have no sympathy .But he was a well respected member of his community who will never have an opportunity to defend his self of alleged crimes in a court of law .

[Thomasg]

You break a civil law and you lose your civil rights - this was not an ordinary citizen when 6 of the weapons that he sold were used in the commission of a crime. Sad how it came down but IMO this was not killing a citizen who chose to follow the constitutional rights to bear and keep arms.

He was a well respected member of his community who went to work everyday to a job with a salary of 1/4 million $ per year who happened to like and collect guns and coins . With no prior criminal offenses or record .sure he may or may not followed the correct government regulations while pursuing his hobby and allegedly sold a gun to a criminal unintentionally , until I see proof he done so intentionally for profit I will consider him a victim of over zealous AT..F. agents who should be charged with man manslaughter !

[bestgear]

… until I see proof he done so intentionally for profit I will consider him a victim of over zealous AT..F. agents who should be charged with man manslaughter !

fair enough - I respect due process as well - I’m sure the gun sale purchases that were made by undercover ATF agents will be portrayed as “a setup” - of course he did it for profit and as a high income earner already, I’m sure he had a huge bullseye on his back by the ATF.

Sadly (as Boji who holds an FFL will attest), the ATF doesn’t have enough resources to chase every paperwork infraction but instead focus their resources where it will make the biggest impact on public safety. I’m afraid Mr. Malinowski fit that profile and his defense led to his demise.

I’ll guarantee that a 4473 wasn’t filed with every transaction.

[Thomasg]

… until I see proof he done so intentionally for profit I will consider him a victim of over zealous AT..F. agents who should be charged with man manslaughter !

fair enough - I respect due process as well - I’m sure the gun sale purchases that were made by undercover ATF agents will be portrayed as “a setup” - of course he did it for profit and as a high income earner already, I’m sure he had a huge bullseye on his back by the ATF.

Sadly (as Boji who holds an FFL will attest), the ATF doesn’t have enough resources to chase every paperwork infraction but instead focus their resources where it will make the biggest impact on public safety. I’m afraid Mr. Malinowski fit that profile and his defense led to his demise.

I respect your opinion of the matter .Sure he may have made a few $ on the buying and re selling of the guns in question while in joying his hobby .The big question for me is did he sell them knowingly to criminals for a profit It seems to me the same results the A.T.F. need could have been handled by simply knocking on his door in the the daylight hours at his home or visiting him at his work place .

[Boji]

The various news sources I read stated that Malinowski fired shots at the ATF agents first. Why wouldn’t the agents return fire? What were they supposed to do? I doubt saying, Please don’t shoot at us would have done anything.

Do you own a gun ? If you do and the door to your house was smashed in before daylight and your home was invade by masked men armed with an A15 in full body armor un announced what would be your reaction? Bryan had every right to defend his life and property from what he most likely thought was a home invasion and robbery .If had been a drug dealing thug , gangster , or gun runner I would have no sympathy .But he was a well respected member of his community who will never have an opportunity to defend his self of alleged crimes in a court of law .

Please show me a reputable news source that states that the ATF “smashed down the door, etc” as you stated.
Seems you know this fellow, did you buy a gun from him and are paranoid that the ATF will be coming to you ?

[Thomasg]

The various news sources I read stated that Malinowski fired shots at the ATF agents first. Why wouldn’t the agents return fire? What were they supposed to do? I doubt saying, Please don’t shoot at us would have done anything.

Do you own a gun ? If you do and the door to your house was smashed in before daylight and your home was invade by masked men armed with an A15 in full body armor un announced what would be your reaction? Bryan had every right to defend his life and property from what he most likely thought was a home invasion and robbery .If had been a drug dealing thug , gangster , or gun runner I would have no sympathy .But he was a well respected member of his community who will never have an opportunity to defend his self of alleged crimes in a court of law .

Please show me a reputable news source that states that the ATF “smashed down the door, etc” as you stated.
Seems you know this fellow, did you buy a gun from him and are paranoid that the ATF will be coming to you ?

Although I’m not an expert on a no knock search warrants I find it highly unlikely that the door was unlocked a before daylight so the A.T.F. Could Waltz in unabated..I have seen the video of the no knock warrant from the body camera when the police shot and killed Breonna Taylor on the news .The door was smashed in before entry .I do attend a few gun shows here in Arkansas mostly looking for knifes .Mostly small gatherings at the fair grounds and fire departments .I did not know the victim personally the A.T.F. Killed returning gun fire but his face looks hauntingly familiar. I’m not paranoid the A.T.F . Are coming for me but if they do I hope they don’t shoot my 10 year old pit bull .she is harmless and wouldn’t hurt a fly .Deaf and most likely wouldn’t hear them coming to run for cover .

[Boji]

You break a civil law and you lose your civil rights - this was not an ordinary citizen when 6 of the weapons that he sold were used in the commission of a crime. Sad how it came down but IMO this was not killing a citizen who chose to follow the constitutional rights to bear and keep arms.

He was a well respected member of his community who went to work everyday to a job with a salary of 1/4 million $ per year who happened to like and collect guns and coins . With no prior criminal offenses or record .sure he may or may not followed the correct government regulations while pursuing his hobby and allegedly sold a gun to a criminal unintentionally , until I see proof he done so intentionally for profit I will consider him a victim of over zealous AT..F. agents who should be charged with man manslaughter !

A gun collector does NOT purchase 24 Glock Model 45, or 12 Beretta Model 92. or multiples of other Glock models and other current mass production guns.

[Mumbleypeg]

I can only conclude that those rushing to defense of the ATF in this instance have not bothered to read the post above, which explains the uber-aggressive (my interpretation) actions advocated and executed by the current administration with regard to gun-sales transactions by both individuals and FFL holders.

Biden used the BSCA to make a tiny, seemingly trivial change in existing law. The federal government previously classified people as “gun dealers,” requiring them to get a license if they sold guns “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit.” The language in the BSCA reads: “predominantly earn a profit.”
The initial proposal put out by the Biden administration classifies you as a gun dealer if you sell a friend a gun once and discuss with them the sale of a second gun. Other rules cover you if you sell one gun and keep any record of what you bought and sold it for.

While Biden is redefining everyone as a firearms dealer, Cornyn knew that Biden’s zero-tolerance policy for paperwork typos was putting thousands of dealers out of business.
Take the case of Tom Harris, who owns the Sporting Arms Co. in Lewisville, Texas, a disabled father of five who made a couple of small paperwork mistakes 16 and 17 years ago. Even the ATF under President Barack Obama cleared Harris, and he has made no mistakes since then. But the Biden administration reopened these old closed cases.
When Biden sold his zero-tolerance policy by claiming: “If you willfully sell a gun to someone who is prohibited from possessing it, if you willfully fail to run a background check, if you willfully falsify a record, if you willfully fail to cooperate with the tracing requests or inspections, my message to you is this: We’ll find you, and we will seek your license to sell guns.” Harris and others are not purposefully selling guns to criminals, but the government is coming for their licenses anyway.

All this despite the complete and total lack of any evidence that firearms sales by individuals to individuals, or clerical errors made by FFLs, have any significant impact whatsoever on use of firearms in crimes. In fact the evidence proves that such actions have only a minuscule impact. (The data supporting this is available from the Crime Prevention Research web site, which merely compiles FBI statistics.)

The agenda of the current administration is confiscation of forearms from citizens, and putting the firearms industry out of business. Period. The fact is the feds do not follow up on and prosecute those who either lie on or fail to pass their background check application to purchase a firearm. Yet they are trying to shut down FFLs for typo errors on the application.

Arguing and speculating the details of any one particular instance ignores and obfuscates the bigger issue.

Ken

[Boji]

I can only conclude that those rushing to defense of the ATF in this instance have not bothered to read the post above, which explains the uber-aggressive (my interpretation) actions advocated and executed by the current administration with regard to gun-sales transactions by both individuals and FFL holders.

While Biden is redefining everyone as a firearms dealer, Cornyn knew that Biden’s zero-tolerance policy for paperwork typos was putting thousands of dealers out of business..

The agenda of the current administration is confiscation of forearms from citizens, and putting the firearms industry out of business. Period. The fact is the feds do not follow up on and prosecute those who either lie on or fail to pass their background check application to purchase a firearm. Yet they are trying to shut down FFLs for typo errors on the application.

Arguing and speculating the details of any one particular instance ignores and obfuscates the bigger issue.

Ken

FFL license revocations for the past 6 months:
September 2023 14
October 2023 20
November 2023 15
December 2023 10
January 2024 20
February 2024 23
Where are the "thousands" you speak of?

As an FFL holder for 33 years and constantly "keeping my ear to the ground" I have wasted enough time on the overall topic.
The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) has a great deal of information on their website.
Also, on YouTube, FFL Consultants does a monthly update on what's up with the ATF and FFLs.

[Mumbleypeg]

Interesting. Thanks for the information. I’ve not known the author to be given to hyperbole in the past. However I did find this quote from a March 2023 article in USA Today “ Last year, ATF revoked licenses at a higher rate than in any year since 2006.” In the same article an ATF representative said “we’re just doing our job”. (IIRC the Nazi SS said something similar.)

And there’s this:

Even if the figures cited in the editorial are overstated, it does not change my opinion about the devious methods and efforts of the current administration regarding gun control, among other things. They can’t get laws they want passed through Congress but it doesn’t stop them from harassing and trying to regulate industries they oppose into oblivion. Seems a significant number of FFL holders have decided to ‘throw in the towel” in the face of having to deal with an aggressive ATF. Though eventually struck down by SCOTUS it takes years of costly legal wrangling, during which time many small businesses in the targeted industries are forced out of business. Which is exactly their objective.

Those small businesses can’t afford the cost of lawyers nor do they want the harassment. The government on the other hand has an army of lawyers and money to burn.

Ken

[Thomasg]

The various news sources I read stated that Malinowski fired shots at the ATF agents first. Why wouldn’t the agents return fire? What were they supposed to do? I doubt saying, Please don’t shoot at us would have done anything.

Do you own a gun ? If you do and the door to your house was smashed in before daylight and your home was invade by masked men armed with an A15 in full body armor un announced what would be your reaction? Bryan had every right to defend his life and property from what he most likely thought was a home invasion and robbery .If had been a drug dealing thug , gangster , or gun runner I would have no sympathy .But he was a well respected member of his community who will never have an opportunity to defend his self of alleged crimes in a court of law .

Please show me a reputable news source that states that the ATF “smashed down the door, etc” as you stated.
Seems you know this fellow, did you buy a gun from him and are paranoid that the ATF will be coming to you ?

N.B.C.

[OLDE CUTLER]

There's an article in the April issue of Guns & Ammo magazine by Keith Wood about the departure of Wayne LaPierre as the NRA head. Basically they are saying " good riddance to bad rubbish".

[Thomasg]

In Arkansas we gave an open carry law .I was eating at a local restaurant when I was approached by a gentleman who had a 9mm holstered .He asked me why I carried a big bulky S.W. 44 mag..I just smiled and said because I can’t afford. a Desert Eagle..He just smiled and walked away .live T.v. Just now Federal Government is raiding home connected to Sean “ Diddy “combs in holmby hills .Armed to the teeth .Hope no one gets shot .This is a prime example of what a government raid looks like .looks like after the botched raid here in Arkansas the chose to raid in daylight this time .

[bestgear]

The first good news is that at the end of the day, WE ARE ALL 2A STRONG The second good news is that the dialogue here has been civil and well debated

[Thomasg]

I can only conclude that those rushing to defense of the ATF in this instance have not bothered to read the post above, which explains the uber-aggressive (my interpretation) actions advocated and executed by the current administration with regard to gun-sales transactions by both individuals and FFL holders.

While Biden is redefining everyone as a firearms dealer, Cornyn knew that Biden’s zero-tolerance policy for paperwork typos was putting thousands of dealers out of business..

The agenda of the current administration is confiscation of forearms from citizens, and putting the firearms industry out of business. Period. The fact is the feds do not follow up on and prosecute those who either lie on or fail to pass their background check application to purchase a firearm. Yet they are trying to shut down FFLs for typo errors on the application.

Arguing and speculating the details of any one particular instance ignores and obfuscates the bigger issue.

Ken

FFL license revocations for the past 6 months:
September 2023 14
October 2023 20
November 2023 15
December 2023 10
January 2024 20
February 2024 23
Where are the "thousands" you speak of?

As an FFL holder for 33 years and constantly "keeping my ear to the ground" I have wasted enough time on the overall topic.
The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) has a great deal of information on their website.
Also, on YouTube, FFL Consultants does a monthly update on what's up with the ATF and FFLs.

Thank you for passing along the information for the you tube FFl consultants monthly updates .I will be sure to tune in for changes in regulations and proper procedures pertaining to gun sales .

[Thomasg]

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The first good news is that at the end of the day, WE ARE ALL 2A STRONG The second good news is that the dialogue here has been civil and well debated

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[garddogg56]

This was well stated and informing

[ken98k]

So, it seems Bryan Malinowski was in effect executed at dawn by the ATF for selling some guns.

https://www.thv11.com/article/news/crim ... 232dd69062