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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This morning I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 2 7/32" closed, fob/key ring pocket knife to my collection. This is my first fob/key ring pocket knife with this particular advertising that I've obtained. It came in a neat little souvenir holder from "KIAMESHA LAKE NY." The other side has "Sidney 1927" carved into it. I know that the knife and the holder are not an original match. I cleaned it up a bit (the knife), took some pictures and here it is.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:52 am
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm
This morning I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 2 7/32" closed, fob/key ring pocket knife to my collection. This is my first fob/key ring pocket knife with this particular advertising that I've obtained. It came in a neat little souvenir holder from "KIAMESHA LAKE NY." The other side has "Sidney 1927" carved into it. I know that the knife and the holder are not an original match. I cleaned it up a bit (the knife), took some pictures and here it is.
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Another nice one Skip!

Congrats!!
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:19 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:52 am
Another.....
Thank you Smitty.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:32 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This afternoon I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 2 7/32" closed fob/pocket knife to my collection. This is the third fob/pocket knife advertising this particular company, "THE WHITEHEAD & HOAG CO.", that I've obtained. The other two have been previously posted under this topic/thread. I cleaned it up a little, took some pictures and here it is.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:55 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Today I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 2 7/32" closed, fob/key ring pocket knife to my collection. This is the first fob/key ring pocket knife advertising this particular business that I've obtained. Enough of the tang stamp remains to positively identify it. I cleaned it up a bit, took some pictures and here it is.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:18 am
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:55 am
Today I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 2 7/32" closed, fob/key ring pocket knife to my collection. This is the first fob/key ring pocket knife advertising this particular business that I've obtained. Enough of the tang stamp remains to positively identify it. I cleaned it up a bit, took some pictures and here it is.
You on a roll Skip. Another good looking addition.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:51 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Smitty.

To bring you up to date. I'm waiting for one more "W & H" that's in the mail.
When it arrives, not only will there be group photos taken, but there will be
two EARTH SHATTERING, LIFE ALTERING revelations regarding my original quest.
STAY TUNED......
Oh, I think you missed this one on the previous page.
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 45#p925788
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:43 pm
by Papa Bones
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:42 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Today I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 3" closed, all metal fob/key ring pocket knife to my collection. This is my first fob/key ring pocket knife advertising this particular company, "GEO. B. CARPENTER & CO. - 440 N. WELLS ST. - CHICAGO", that I've obtained. This is my fourth fob/key ring pocket knife that is this particular pattern or style. The other three have been posted previously under this topic/thread. Could this be another clue possibly linking ROBESON to the manufacturing process of these "W & H" fob/key ring pocket knives? My investigation continues. It didn't need to be cleaned. I took some pictures and here it is.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 am
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:42 am
Today I added this, "THE W & H CO - USA - NEWARK NJ", single blade, 3" closed, all metal fob/key ring pocket knife to my collection. This is my first fob/key ring pocket knife advertising this particular company, "GEO. B. CARPENTER & CO. - 440 N. WELLS ST. - CHICAGO", that I've obtained.
Really nice looking fob knife, Looks to be in excellent condition. I love promos that have an interesting history. The one on this company is really interesting. If you or anyone else would like to know a little about the Geo. B. Carpenter & Co.
https://www.madeinchicagomuseum.com/sin ... carpenter/.
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:39 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 am
Really.....
Thank you Smitty.

I visited that site just prior to posting the pocket knife.
I've looked at, or have tried to look at, the history of all
these advertising pocket knives. It can definitely make
some interesting reading.
Oh, this weekend is FINALLY the time for group picture(s)!!
......and "possibly" the two revelations regarding this topic/thread.
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:06 am
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:39 am
Oh, this weekend is FINALLY the time for group picture(s)!!
......and "possibly" the two revelations regarding this topic/thread.
Look forward to it.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:12 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
The last time that I posted group pictures of my Whitehead & Hoag advertising pocket knives was back in March, almost four months ago. Since then, I've added some more to the collection. Enough have been added to deserve more group pictures. The pocket knives pictured are ONLY the Whitehead & Hoag advertising pocket knives that have a "W & H" tang stamp. The other "supporting cast" members are NOT included. Every pocket knife pictured here has been previously posted somewhere under this topic/thread.
Captions, if any, are on the bottom of the corresponding picture.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:29 pm
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:12 pm
The last time that I posted group pictures of my Whitehead & Hoag advertising pocket knives was back in March, almost four months ago. Since then, I've added some more to the collection. Enough have been added to deserve more group pictures.

A very nice group Skip. Interesting histories not only of W & H Co, but also some of the companies featured as promos.
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:45 pm
by doglegg
Very cool collection Skip. Impressive group.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:57 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Smitty.

I enjoy researching the company or
business that's advertised on the knife.
doglegg wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:45 pm
Very.....
Thank you very much Floyd.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:46 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
I originally started this topic/thread for a very simple reason. I wanted to learn which cutlery company or companies manufactured, or at least had a hand in the process of manufacturing pocket knives for The Whitehead & Hoag Company.
I didn't expect any part of this quest to be a piece of cake. But I thought there would be more information than what there is. What little information I could find, mentioned BOKER U.S.A. as being involved. But so far, I can't find one piece of evidence that would, without a doubt, link BOKER U.S.A. to "W & H." If I could find a pocket knife that matches ANY of the patterns or styles that I've previously posted under this topic/thread AND has a BOKER U.S.A. tang stamp, I would consider that proof positive of a connection. The ROBESON name was mentioned even less, but it was mentioned. Well, I do believe that I have the evidence linking ROBESON to "W & H." I'm 99% sure that ROBESON was one of the manufacturers and didn't just have a hand in the manufacturing process. The reason that I'm NOT 100% positive, is because of the last or bottom pocket knife in the first three pictures. The blade is different and it has a long pull. Also, I can not read the remains of the tang stamp. Could ANOTHER, DIFFERENT cutlery company also be involved with manufacturing this pattern or style of pocket knife? It's entirely possible, but I hope not. Further investigation is definitely required. The pocket knives are in the same position in the first three pictures. The pictures of the tang stamps are in the order that the pocket knives are in.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding pictures.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
The Latest Group Pictures Were Posted Yesterday.
Click here to view:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=60#p930929
***** Stay Tuned For Another EARTH SHATTERING, LIFE ALTERING Revelation, Coming Soon. *****
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:42 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
My purpose for starting this topic/thread, was to try and determine which cutlery companies made or had a hand in the manufacturing of pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Well, besides BOKER U.S.A. (no hard evidence) and to a much lesser degree, ROBESON (see the previous post), no other cutlery companies have been mentioned (that I could find). That is, until now. This will be the FIRST of THREE posts hopefully revealing a third and possibly a fourth cutlery company involved with Whitehead & Hoag.
Acquired very recently and pictured below is a MERIDEN - KNIFE CO. - U.S.A., 2 blade, 2 tang stamps, 3 1/8" closed pocket knife. One side of the handle has a train and the other side has an ad for "THE TRAVELERS INSURANCE COMPANY." Both tang stamps are the same and are "block style." Per GOINS, it dates from 1917-1932. It needed very little cleaning. I'm 99.999% sure that the train is on the "front" side of the handle. What, if anything, does the MERIDEN KNIFE COMPANY have to do with the Whitehead & Hoag Company? You'll just have to wait for the next TWO parts to find out.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:58 pm
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:42 pm
My purpose for starting this topic/thread, was to try and determine which cutlery companies made or had a hand in the manufacturing of pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Well, besides BOKER U.S.A. (no hard evidence) and to a much lesser degree, ROBESON (see the previous post), no other cutlery companies have been mentioned (that I could find). That is, until now. This will be the FIRST of THREE posts hopefully revealing a third and possibly a fourth cutlery company involved with Whitehead & Hoag.
Acquired very recently and pictured below is a MERIDEN - KNIFE CO. - U.S.A., 2 blade, 2 tang stamps, 3 1/8" closed pocket knife. One side of the handle has a train and the other side has an ad for "THE TRAVELERS INSURANCE COMPANY." Both tang stamps are the same and are "block style." Per GOINS, it dates from 1917-1932. It needed very little cleaning. I'm 99.999% sure that the train is on the "front" side of the handle. What, if anything, does the MERIDEN KNIFE COMPANY have to do with the Whitehead & Hoag Company? You'll just have to wait for the next TWO parts to find out.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Nice find skip.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:19 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Smitty.

Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:00 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
My purpose for starting this topic/thread, was to try and determine which cutlery companies made or had a hand in the manufacturing of pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Well, besides BOKER U.S.A. (no hard evidence) and to a much lesser degree, ROBESON, no other cutlery companies have been mentioned (that I could find). That is, until now. This is the SECOND of THREE posts hopefully revealing a third and possibly a fourth cutlery company involved with the Whitehead & Hoag Company.
ROBESON, (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=75#p931194
MERIDEN, (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=75#p931301
My most recent acquisition and pictured below is a L.F. & C. - U.S.A. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK), 2 blade, 1 tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed pocket knife. Both sides of the handle have an ad for "THE TRAVELERS INSURANCE COMPANY." The tang stamp is the "block style." Per GOINS, it dates from 1912-1950. Also per GOINS, L.F. & C. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK) purchased ALL of the MERIDEN KNIFE COMPANY in 1918. It required very little cleaning. What, if anything, does the MERIDEN KNIFE COMPANY and L.F. & C. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK) have to do with the Whitehead & Hoag Company? You'll just have to wait for part THREE to find out.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:02 am
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:00 pm
My most recent acquisition and pictured below is a L.F. & C. - U.S.A. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK), 2 blade, 1 tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed pocket knife. Both sides of the handle have an ad for "THE TRAVELERS INSURANCE COMPANY."
Looks great Skip. Another nice addition to your group.
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:06 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Smitty.

I tend to look at it as another clue.
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:00 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
My purpose for starting this topic/thread, was to try and determine which cutlery companies made or had a hand in the manufacturing of pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Well, besides BOKER U.S.A. (no hard evidence) and to a much lesser degree, ROBESON, no other cutlery companies have been mentioned (that I could find). That is, until now. This is the THIRD and the last of THREE posts hopefully revealing a third and possibly a fourth cutlery company involved with the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Of course, nothing about this is 100% certain. Judge the evidence for yourself.
BOKER U.S.A., (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
Nonexistent. So far.
ROBESON, (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=75#p931194
MERIDEN, (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=75#p931301
L.F. & C. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK), (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
posting.php?mode=reply&f=35&t=70226#pr931683
The Latest Group Pictures (June 19, 2021):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=60#p930929
So, did the MERIDEN KNIFE COMPANY actually manufacture any pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company?
There may be a VERY SLIGHT chance that they did, but I really doubt it. Did L.F. & C. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK) manufacture pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company? I do believe that they did. The pocket knives are in the same position in the first four pictures. The pictures of the tang stamps are in the order that the pocket knives are in. Where there are two of the same tang stamps, the main blade stamp is first.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding pictures.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
So, in summary, here are the cutlery companies that I believe manufactured or at least had a hand in the manufacturing process of the pocket knives for Whitehead & Hoag. Are there more? Yes, I do believe that there are other cutlery companies involved. The hunt and the investigation continues.
BOKER U.S.A. - No Hard Evidence (So Far).
ROBESON - Involved.
MERIDEN - Slight Chance Of Involvement.
L.F. & C. - Involved.
Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:13 pm
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:00 pm
My purpose for starting this topic/thread, was to try and determine which cutlery companies made or had a hand in the manufacturing of pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Well, besides BOKER U.S.A. (no hard evidence) and to a much lesser degree, ROBESON, no other cutlery companies have been mentioned (that I could find). That is, until now. This is the THIRD and the last of THREE posts hopefully revealing a third and possibly a fourth cutlery company involved with the Whitehead & Hoag Company. Of course, nothing about this is 100% certain. Judge the evidence for yourself.
BOKER U.S.A., (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
Nonexistent. So far.
ROBESON, (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=75#p931194
MERIDEN, (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=70226&start=75#p931301
L.F. & C. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK), (As It Pertains To This Topic/Thread):
posting.php?mode=reply&f=35&t=70226#pr931683
So, did the MERIDEN KNIFE COMPANY actually manufacture any pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company?
There may be a VERY SLIGHT chance that they did, but I really doubt it. Did L.F. & C. (LANDERS, FRARY & CLARK) manufacture pocket knives for the Whitehead & Hoag Company? I do believe that they did. The pocket knives are in the same position in the first four pictures. The pictures of the tang stamps are in the order that the pocket knives are in. Where there are two of the same tang stamps, the main blade stamp is first.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding pictures.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
So, in summary, here are the cutlery companies that I believe manufactured or at least had a hand in the manufacturing process of the pocket knives for Whitehead & Hoag. Are there more? Yes, I do believe that there are other cutlery companies involved. The hunt and the investigation continues.
BOKER U.S.A. - No Hard Evidence (So Far).
ROBESON - Involved.
MERIDEN - Slight Chance Of Involvement.
L.F. & C. - Involved.
You've acquired some very nice knives through this thread. Very informative links and thread Skip. Thanks for sharing.