Re: Newest Case Pick-Ups
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:42 pm
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toomanyknives wrote: βSat Feb 12, 2022 2:20 am Some fantastic knives, John, Breeze, SSK, and Jamiein! All beauties!![]()
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Thanks guys
Nice haul Jamie..JamieinWV wrote: βSat Feb 12, 2022 12:16 am Well picked this up last weekend from a couple gun safes image.jpg
All new in boxes and all with sheaths
image.jpg 1985 2159 with local coal mine safety award inscription image.jpgP158 Mako 1979. image.jpg1978 P197 Shark Tooth..image.jpgimage.jpgand a cool 1982 Sidewinder
That's a bummer on such an otherwise beautiful knife, Ivoryman. Personally, the proud spring wouldn't bother me all that much as long as the pen blade still snaps open & closed, but everyone has their own standards of acceptability with regard to F&F. If it bothers you so much that it ruins your enjoyment of the knife, I would contact the seller and request a return/refund. I have only had one issue with a knife purchased from an AAPK store (scratch on a blade that was not disclosed nor visible in the photos due to the lighting and angle etc., much like your experience). I contacted the seller and he was very apologetic; said he did not notice it when taking the pictures but offered a full refund including cost of return shipping. So, that's something to consider...the seller may have made an honest mistake, or the proud spring did not seem serious enough to him to mention (different people tend to notice and/or care about different details of a particular knife...so, it's possible that to him, the proud spring was not necessarily considered a "flaw" and therefore not worth mentioning). It's also possible he didn't even notice it at all, which can happen when photographing and listing a lot of knives...I've been inadvertently guilty of that myself once or twice when selling a knife on eBay, i.e., something I did not notice or feel was a flaw that to someone else was a major issue (such as exactly how to rate the snap: what I felt was a normal snap on a brand new Case Trapper, a buyer felt was too soft and claimed I should have disclosed that in my listing). Can't please everyone all the time, but be careful of thinking the seller was being intentionally deceptive...it could just as easily have been an honest mistake or simply because the seller didn't focus on the same details as you (especially considering that you are accustomed to GEC level quality and likely have a different standard of acceptable F&F). JMO...obviously, YMMV.Ivoryman wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 7:02 pm It's with mixed emotions I post this Case XX U.S.A. 6214. Great bones and action and looks like unused blades, but the pen blade spring protrudes proudly about 1/16 inch when closed and that bugs me. Got it here on the forum and usually expect stuff like this to be disclosed by trusted AAPK sellers but it was not mentioned and was photographed in such a way as to completely hide this flaw even if you were looking for it. That makes me suspicious that it was deliberate to hide the flaw. Which to me is unconscionable since I've sold hundreds of knives and would never even consider hiding something like that or not disclosing it on principle alone. I want people to know exactly what they are getting and be ok with it before hand. Seller didn't share that mind set. Some sellers avoid such niceties of course, but I always go in thinking they will be honest about such flaws and disclose them, not hid them. My mistake again.
Great grab, I-Man! I love the 14 pattern. You don't see many of them in the wild, especially that nice! I know how you feel about the spring issue, but I try to look at it like we all have a few flaws, so it's still a heck of a nice knife, and I hope you can enjoy it.Ivoryman wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 7:02 pm It's with mixed emotions I post this Case XX U.S.A. 6214. Great bones and action and looks like unused blades, but the pen blade spring protrudes proudly about 1/16 inch when closed and that bugs me. Got it here on the forum and usually expect stuff like this to be disclosed by trusted AAPK sellers but it was not mentioned and was photographed in such a way as to completely hide this flaw even if you were looking for it. That makes me suspicious that it was deliberate to hide the flaw. Which to me is unconscionable since I've sold hundreds of knives and would never even consider hiding something like that or not disclosing it on principle alone. I want people to know exactly what they are getting and be ok with it before hand. Seller didn't share that mind set. Some sellers avoid such niceties of course, but I always go in thinking they will be honest about such flaws and disclose them, not hid them. My mistake again.
QTCut5 wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 9:25 pmThat's a bummer on such an otherwise beautiful knife, Ivoryman. Personally, the proud spring wouldn't bother me all that much as long as the pen blade still snaps open & closed, but everyone has their own standards of acceptability with regard to F&F. If it bothers you so much that it ruins your enjoyment of the knife, I would contact the seller and request a return/refund. I have only had one issue with a knife purchased from an AAPK store (scratch on a blade that was not disclosed nor visible in the photos due to the lighting and angle etc., much like your experience). I contacted the seller and he was very apologetic; said he did not notice it when taking the pictures but offered a full refund including cost of return shipping. So, that's something to consider...the seller may have made an honest mistake, or the proud spring did not seem serious enough to him to mention (different people tend to notice and/or care about different details of a particular knife...so, it's possible that to him, the proud spring was not necessarily considered a "flaw" and therefore not worth mentioning). It's also possible he didn't even notice it at all, which can happen when photographing and listing a lot of knives...I've been inadvertently guilty of that myself once or twice when selling a knife on eBay, i.e., something I did not notice or feel was a flaw that to someone else was a major issue (such as exactly how to rate the snap: what I felt was a normal snap on a brand new Case Trapper, a buyer felt was too soft and claimed I should have disclosed that in my listing). Can't please everyone all the time, but be careful of thinking the seller was being intentionally deceptive...it could just as easily have been an honest mistake or simply because the seller didn't focus on the same details as you (especially considering that you are accustomed to GEC level quality and likely have a different standard of acceptable F&F). JMO...obviously,Ivoryman wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 7:02 pm It's with mixed emotions I post this Case XX U.S.A. 6214. Great bones and action and looks like unused blades, but the pen blade spring protrudes proudly about 1/16 inch when closed and that bugs me. Got it here on the forum and usually expect stuff like this to be disclosed by trusted AAPK sellers but it was not mentioned and was photographed in such a way as to completely hide this flaw even if you were looking for it. That makes me suspicious that it was deliberate to hide the flaw. Which to me is unconscionable since I've sold hundreds of knives and would never even consider hiding something like that or not disclosing it on principle alone. I want people to know exactly what they are getting and be ok with it before hand. Seller didn't share that mind set. Some sellers avoid such niceties of course, but I always go in thinking they will be honest about such flaws and disclose them, not hid them. My mistake again.
YMMV.
Still a great looking knife, BTW, even with the proud spring.![]()
Could this be corrected by filing down the kick a bit ??Ivoryman wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 7:02 pm It's with mixed emotions I post this Case XX U.S.A. 6214. Great bones and action and looks like unused blades, but the pen blade spring protrudes proudly about 1/16 inch when closed and that bugs me. Got it here on the forum and usually expect stuff like this to be disclosed by trusted AAPK sellers but it was not mentioned and was photographed in such a way as to completely hide this flaw even if you were looking for it. That makes me suspicious that it was deliberate to hide the flaw. Which to me is unconscionable since I've sold hundreds of knives and would never even consider hiding something like that or not disclosing it on principle alone. I want people to know exactly what they are getting and be ok with it before hand. Seller didn't share that mind set. Some sellers avoid such niceties of course, but I always go in thinking they will be honest about such flaws and disclose them, not hid them. My mistake again.
I asked the same thing in a different thread, and if you read Ivoryman's answer above, I believe he has already expressed his concerns about grinding down the kick; concerns which are absolutely valid, IMO.Ivoryman wrote: βThu Feb 24, 2022 3:07 am I hate to do grind down knives like this. And I have ground kicks down before. Sometimes the spring sinks enough. Sometimes not. If done on this one I fear it would also lower the pen blade so low that the nail nick might be behind the liner and not really useable to open the blade. Maybe not, but it would drop.
toomanyknives wrote: βThu Feb 24, 2022 2:57 am
Great grab, I-Man! I love the 14 pattern. You don't see many of them in the wild, especially that nice! I know how you feel about the spring issue, but I try to look at it like we all have a few flaws, so it's still a heck of a nice knife, and I hope you can enjoy it.![]()
Thanks both of you for the opinions on this. After more thought I agree with these sentiments. I rarely see this pattern for sale and this one has the bones I like, heck of a knife you're right. Fabulous color, sweet snap on both blades, perfect spring tension, great tight lock up on both blades, there is a lot to like. Maybe I'm being too picky on the proud spring and maybe I am too accustomed to GEC fit and finish and a different level of F&F. Very valid points. I have had a lot of older Case knives without this issue, maybe it's rare. Maybe it doesn't matter to seller and others. Thanks again for the advice and compliments.QTCut5 wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 9:25 pm That's a bummer on such an otherwise beautiful knife, Ivoryman. Personally, the proud spring wouldn't bother me all that much as long as the pen blade still snaps open & closed, but everyone has their own standards of acceptability with regard to F&F. It's possible the proud spring was not necessarily considered a "flaw" and, can't please everyone all the time, but be careful of thinking the seller was being intentionally deceptive...it could just as easily have been an honest mistake or simply because the seller didn't focus on the same details as you (especially considering that you are accustomed to GEC level quality and likely have a different standard of acceptable F&F). JMO...obviously, YMMV.
Still a great looking knife, BTW, even with the proud spring.![]()
I-man, I know this may sound crazy, but I would send pictures to Case and see if they could put the knife on a finish sander and smooth the spring from the bottom side. I don't think you have enough height to file the kick, from the pictures I've seen, and you will end up with a nail nick that is too low. If done by a pro, you would never know that the springs had been evened up. Please knife makers, if I'm wrong with this advice straighten me out. I've done this to a couple of my knives in the past with good results. But, I don't want to offer bad advice on such a pretty and valuable knife. Let us know what happens, I-Man. Good luck..Ivoryman wrote: βThu Feb 24, 2022 6:06 amtoomanyknives wrote: βThu Feb 24, 2022 2:57 am
Great grab, I-Man! I love the 14 pattern. You don't see many of them in the wild, especially that nice! I know how you feel about the spring issue, but I try to look at it like we all have a few flaws, so it's still a heck of a nice knife, and I hope you can enjoy it.![]()
Thanks both of you for the opinions on this. After more thought I agree with these sentiments. I rarely see this pattern for sale and this one has the bones I like, heck of a knife you're right. Fabulous color, sweet snap on both blades, perfect spring tension, great tight lock up on both blades, there is a lot to like. Maybe I'm being too picky on the proud spring and maybe I am too accustomed to GEC fit and finish and a different level of F&F. Very valid points. I have had a lot of older Case knives without this issue, maybe it's rare. Maybe it doesn't matter to seller and others. Thanks again for the advice and compliments.QTCut5 wrote: βWed Feb 23, 2022 9:25 pm That's a bummer on such an otherwise beautiful knife, Ivoryman. Personally, the proud spring wouldn't bother me all that much as long as the pen blade still snaps open & closed, but everyone has their own standards of acceptability with regard to F&F. It's possible the proud spring was not necessarily considered a "flaw" and, can't please everyone all the time, but be careful of thinking the seller was being intentionally deceptive...it could just as easily have been an honest mistake or simply because the seller didn't focus on the same details as you (especially considering that you are accustomed to GEC level quality and likely have a different standard of acceptable F&F). JMO...obviously, YMMV.
Still a great looking knife, BTW, even with the proud spring.![]()
Grump, thanks for the suggestion, I hear ya, and have thought about it. Undecided still.