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M.M. I have found some of the best things in life come out of "The Great White North" (oops! :oops: can I still say "Great White" ::paranoid:: ) Besides the Crown Royal... ::hmm:: One of my favorite axes is an "Ardex" made in Toronto I belive... ::hmm::
As far as I'm concerned you can still say "Great White", cuz only the folks south of the Equator wouldn't know it refers to snow, not skin color! They make Grohmann knives in Nova Scotia/Canada also, but you forgot the most important contribution "TGWN" has made to the world, ME! lol! 8)
When you say Great White here in Australia we think shark. When we go to the ocean for a swim we think Great White but we spend more time look at white pointers.

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GSPTOPDOG wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:06 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:21 am I was at a gun and knife show a couple of weekends ago and the knife prices were insane. Things I used to be able to pick up in the $30 to $70 range were $125 and up. And the top shelf stuff made my nose bleed it was so high.
Colonel, you done spoke the truth for how it is around here! ::facepalm:: I don't even go to the shows anymore it just makes me ... :x ::disgust:: :x
I know prices go up... but "Come on man!" (To quote a "real genius"). Everybody selling can't stop talking 'bout how much one "just like the one" on their table just sold for on "Gun broker " :x So they want the same price!
Two weekends ago I was at our local gun and knife show, it's a pretty big show for a small town with folks coming from all over the state and country. As soon as I walked in I got the one and only deal that was to be had there, a 1977 Marlin 336 Texan (straight stock) 30-30 in mint condition for a price that made me about rip my pocket off. I was shocked.

But as I walked around toting it and looking at knives, every one wanted me to price it. This one knife dealer who had some old CASE and Schrade knifes I was interested in, was especially interested in my new Marlin. I had asked him the price of a knife that literally two gun shows ago I could have bought two for $35-$40 a piece and like a dummy didn't. His asking price was $125! I politely declined and then he asked me how much I wanted for the Marlin.

So I shot him the going gun broker price and I thought he was going to choke. He had the nerve to say, "I used to buy those for $150."

To which I replied, "Just like those knives you want $125 for that I used to buy for $30." He didn't say much then, and I kept walking.
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Colonel26 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:21 pm
GSPTOPDOG wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:06 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:21 am
Two weekends ago I was at our local gun and knife show, it's a pretty big show for a small town with folks coming from all over the state and country. As soon as I walked in I got the one and only deal that was to be had there, a 1977 Marlin 336 Texan (straight stock) 30-30 in mint condition for a price that made me about rip my pocket off. I was shocked...
Almost the same story here Col. ::facepalm:: and it happens to me all the time at pawn shops now as they all seem to be selling online as well in the store. :x
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GSPTOPDOG wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:26 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:21 pm
GSPTOPDOG wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:06 pm
Two weekends ago I was at our local gun and knife show, it's a pretty big show for a small town with folks coming from all over the state and country. As soon as I walked in I got the one and only deal that was to be had there, a 1977 Marlin 336 Texan (straight stock) 30-30 in mint condition for a price that made me about rip my pocket off. I was shocked...
Almost the same story here Col. ::facepalm:: and it happens to me all the time at pawn shops now as they all seem to be selling online as well in the store. :x
Yep. Thankfully my LGS pays no attention to gun broker. They'll still trade and sell by the "book" and not gun broker. And they do a lot of business too.
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GSPTOPDOG wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:55 pm
Madmarco wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:21 pm
GSPTOPDOG wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:44 pm
As far as I'm concerned you can still say "Great White", cuz only the folks south of the Equator wouldn't know it refers to snow, not skin color! They make Grohmann knives in Nova Scotia/Canada also, but you forgot the most important contribution "TGWN" has made to the world, ME! lol! 8)
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Grant or cudgee! Would someone please tell what "white pointers" are? Thx! 8)
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Colonel26 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:21 pm
GSPTOPDOG wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:06 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:21 am I was at a gun and knife show a couple of weekends ago and the knife prices were insane. Things I used to be able to pick up in the $30 to $70 range were $125 and up. And the top shelf stuff made my nose bleed it was so high.
Colonel, you done spoke the truth for how it is around here! ::facepalm:: I don't even go to the shows anymore it just makes me ... :x ::disgust:: :x
I know prices go up... but "Come on man!" (To quote a "real genius"). Everybody selling can't stop talking 'bout how much one "just like the one" on their table just sold for on "Gun broker " :x So they want the same price!
Two weekends ago I was at our local gun and knife show, it's a pretty big show for a small town with folks coming from all over the state and country. As soon as I walked in I got the one and only deal that was to be had there, a 1977 Marlin 336 Texan (straight stock) 30-30 in mint condition for a price that made me about rip my pocket off. I was shocked.

But as I walked around toting it and looking at knives, every one wanted me to price it. This one knife dealer who had some old CASE and Schrade knifes I was interested in, was especially interested in my new Marlin. I had asked him the price of a knife that literally two gun shows ago I could have bought two for $35-$40 a piece and like a dummy didn't. His asking price was $125! I politely declined and then he asked me how much I wanted for the Marlin.

So I shot him the going gun broker price and I thought he was going to choke. He had the nerve to say, "I used to buy those for $150."

To which I replied, "Just like those knives you want $125 for that I used to buy for $30." He didn't say much then, and I kept walking.
Good for you Col., ::tu:: way ta go, give the selfish clown a taste of his own medicine, maybe it'll help him realize ::idea:: how outta line his prices are, ::facepalm:: but we both know that's not likely to happen! 8)
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Maybe he’s a selfish clown, maybe he’s got mouths to feed, maybe he’s just not motivated to sell quickly, maybe he’s thinking, “once these ones sell, I’ll have to buy more…”

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we’re in an inflationary set of economic conditions. That always means prices will rise, but some prices will rise faster/farther than others. Merchandise that 1) is no longer being made, and 2) has a high perceived demand, is going to rise faster than that which does not.

There are perhaps fewer deals out there now, and perhaps not on the items you want, but somebody is finding and buying them. The Marlin is proof of that. And like the colonel says, he coulda bought those knives two shows ago, but didn’t. There’s no guarantee of getting what you want at the price you want, but you can improve your chances by doing what he did - going out and looking with cash in hand.

Markets are fluid, that’s a cold hard fact. As long as participation is voluntary, and consists of a large number of on-the-spot decisions of a large number of people, there’s no getting around that. You might as well call the sun selfish for refusing to shine at night.

Someday, when we’re all gone to our final rewards, there’ll be nobody left who even knows what the old knives are, much less wants them. Prices will fall, and our grandkids will be passing up 30 dollar Remingtons and 150 dollar Marlins in favor of newer and “better” stuff.

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catspa wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:50 pm Due to circumstances beyond our control, we’re in an inflationary set of economic conditions. That always means prices will rise, but some prices will rise faster/farther than others. Merchandise that 1) is no longer being made, and 2) has a high perceived demand, is going to rise faster than that which does not...Someday, when we’re all gone to our final rewards, there’ll be nobody left who even knows what the old knives are, much less wants them. Prices will fall, and our grandkids will be passing up 30 dollar Remingtons and 150 dollar Marlins in favor of newer and “better” stuff.
Well ::hmm:: I always thought my VHS tapes and National Geographic Magazine collections would always go up in vale... :oops: Turns out I might have made a bad call on that one... ::disgust:: ::paranoid:: With any collection one can never know what the future holds... ::shrug::
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Yep, it’s tough to make accurate predictions, especially about the future. But we don’t need to waste mental energy being mad at selfish clowns.

Here’s one way to look at it: all sellers are engaged in continuous market testing. The seller of that Marlin, his market test is completed. If he has another one to sell, he’ll bump it up.

The knife seller, his market test is still in progress. Next Jan, if he hasn’t sold any yet, he might try to accelerate his results by dropping the price. That snapshot, times many thousands or millions, makes an overall market for gun show commodities. Every patron hopes his own timing is successful (however he defines success).

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catspa. Obviously my comment regarding someone being "a selfish clown" struck a nerve with you. I understand all about live and let live, being compassionate, having mouths to feed, etc., but in that case that's how it seems to me. How bout' you just drop it now. 8)
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As long as I can, I will try and buy decent birthday and Christmas knives for my Grandsons, sometimes new and sometimes great used ones. I've been blessed to be able to buy the AAPK knives for quite a few years, but my personal buying is mostly limited to junk shops, flea markets and the shallow end of the Bay. :)
I am amazed at the prices of used knives, but I'm also amazed at the prices in the grocery store. Miss Joy asked me to pick up a bag of general-purpose flour and a pound of salted butter when I finally made it to the barbershop this afternoon. The haircut was $15, a pound of butter, 4 sticks was $5.08 and the 5-pound bag of flour was $4.78. :shock:
Bottom line is the current economy is affecting most everything we buy. I used to get all excited when an old Queen or Case would become available and stretch out and make a bid. No longer do I do that. Some have to do without, some cut back, some folks don't seem to be concerned with the economy. ::shrug::
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We used to have knife and gun shows four times a year locally. The guy that operated those shows shut them down before the covid hit. We don't have many other places to sell around here so I've cut my knife buying down to the point that unless it is a really good deal I just pass them up. I have way too many already. I do still look around the local pawn shops but the prices they are asking now are way out of range for mostly used knives. I did stop at one pawn shop earlier this week just to look around. He had picked up about a dozen or so Case Hobos and boy was he proud of them. He had four in stag and was asking $350.00 each for them and the others were Amber Jig Bone, for which he wanted $169.00 each. All were new old stock with boxes but that's way out of my price range if I'm going to make anything on the re-sale. But as long as there are folks who don't mind paying these prices, not just for knives, but for everything else that I'd consider non-essential, then they are not going to cut back on prices. It looks like we may not see any relief for some time. Rick
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Marco, sometimes I’m a selfish clown myself, maybe it just struck to close to home.

My intended point was that people are how they are, and do what they do. Sometimes we have what it takes to make a deal, sometimes we don’t. Especially with strangers, we know (and care) so little about each other that in the long run, it doesn’t matter whether we make this particular transaction or not, there are many more opportunities coming up soon.

I’m a kinda amateur student of economics though, and I do get wordy about it sometimes. No hard feelings, I hope.

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How much are eggs in your neck of the woods? 🤑🤑🤑
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Most expensive eggs you’ll ever eat. Thing is, eating farm eggs ‘bout ruins a guy for store bought eggs.

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1967redrider,
Miss Joy just got back from the store, $2.63 per dozen.
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catspa wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:05 am Marco, sometimes I’m a selfish clown myself, maybe it just struck to close to home.

My intended point was that people are how they are, and do what they do. Sometimes we have what it takes to make a deal, sometimes we don’t. Especially with strangers, we know (and care) so little about each other that in the long run, it doesn’t matter whether we make this particular transaction or not, there are many more opportunities coming up soon.

I’m a kinda amateur student of economics though, and I do get wordy about it sometimes. No hard feelings, I hope.

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1967redrider wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:07 pm How much are eggs in your neck of the woods? 🤑🤑🤑
$4.00/dozen up here, ::facepalm:: cuz we had to import the chickens from a warmer climate! And free range chickens and their eggs are always better tasting than any other kind! 8)
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Thanks, tree and Mark. A guy in my office said they were $8 a dozen wherever he was shopping. That would definitely cut into my knife shopping funds. 💸💸💸
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$8 for a dozen eggs? That's almost enough to make me wish I was zoned for chickens!
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Locally I had a customer tell me regular eggs were 9.00 a dozen at the grocery store .
We sell free range for 9.00 a 18 count and can’t keep them in stock .
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So your eggs are selling for $.50./egg Scout, and store bought they're $.67/egg, and, your free rangers taste soooo much better! Almost worth renting a semi and heading down to Florida to stock up, almost! 8)
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Unfortunately, I haven't backed off yet - five so far this year, although I swore I wouldn't do this. But then again, To salve my conscience somewhat, it's a rare occasion if I ever go over a hundred for a knife. The wife and I are planning a big vacation later this year, so I GOTTA cut down. Hard to do when I see all these knives on the Forum and the new stuff coming out this year! ::facepalm::
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Yes .50 each .
They are my wife’s pets , we have a flock of 52 and get an average of around 24 eggs a day .
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Madmarco wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:43 pm So your eggs are selling for $.50./egg Scout, and store bought they're $.67/egg, and, your free rangers taste soooo much better! Almost worth renting a semi and heading down to Florida to stock up, almost! 8)
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