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Posted: **Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:10 am**

WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:28 pm It's a bummer you got that one John, Gilbert was still working out the kinks in his company.
He has to train up an entire staff from scratch, so there is always going to be issues with some of them; it's the nature of the business.
I guess He feels ready to go full run with it now, I wish all the best to Him!

Matter of fact, I've aboslutely fallen in love with his German Hunter, buffalo horn, matchstriker long pull,

Brother Mark is helping me out, ordered me one here from Franks. Fingers crossed that's it's what I'm hoping for; I can live with some slight funkiness, as long as it doesn't take-away from the knife itself...
https://franksclassicknives.com/collect ... n-hunter-2

The wheels are in motion, Willy. I'm praying for a Christmas miracle.

Posted: **Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:39 am**

1967redrider wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:10 am
WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:28 pm It's a bummer you got that one John, Gilbert was still working out the kinks in his company.
He has to train up an entire staff from scratch, so there is always going to be issues with some of them; it's the nature of the business.
I guess He feels ready to go full run with it now, I wish all the best to Him!

Matter of fact, I've aboslutely fallen in love with his German Hunter, buffalo horn, matchstriker long pull,

Brother Mark is helping me out, ordered me one here from Franks. Fingers crossed that's it's what I'm hoping for; I can live with some slight funkiness, as long as it doesn't take-away from the knife itself...
https://franksclassicknives.com/collect ... n-hunter-2

The wheels are in motion, Willy. I'm praying for a Christmas miracle.

Thanks mate! If everything works out, Santa should be good.

Posted: **Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:13 am**

cbay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:44 pm What is the message being sent with the name and badge?
There certainly is one being sent. Just not seeing any connection with the good start up story and traditional knives...

Pretty much my assessment also. Certainly wouldn't have been my choice for an early offering.

Ken

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:45 am**

why do these knives vary so much depending on where you buy them. same knife selling for $80 at one place. $125 and sold out at another. and then topping out around $175 at another. way premature for dealers to start the "flip".

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:16 am**

and case says foreign & domestic materials. not parts. big difference. if weed is using foreign & domestic parts, they will be in trouble before you know it. i just really feel sorry for people who overpaid $40 to $100 dollars more than they should have. maybe weed should have set the price, not the retailers

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:03 am**

mightyzaa3 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:16 am and case says foreign & domestic materials. not parts. big difference. if weed is using foreign & domestic parts, they will be in trouble before you know it. i just really feel sorry for people who overpaid $40 to $100 dollars more than they should have. maybe weed should have set the price, not the retailers

Not sure it matters, but for clarification and accuracy:

Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:11 am
Rockstars Artifacts wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:49 am
knifeaholic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:50 am

Please - show me a Case box that states that in those words. The implication is that Case is using both foreign and domestic parts. Not saying that you're wrong, perhaps you are correct, but I personally have never heard of Case using foreign made parts, nor have I seen that stated on their boxes.

But again, you may be right, I would just like to see it.
I apologize the wording was incorrect. I should have said Imported instead of foreign.
What's the label say on the pictured box? IIRC that statement may have been on the Mini-Blackhorn, possibly another lower cost Case pattern, but it's not what "all Modern Case knives state on their boxes". Maybe your use of "modern" is referring to "tactical" patterns? It's certainly not on the boxes of any recently made traditional patterns (like the OP "Weed" trapper) I've seen.

Ken

FWIW the subtleties between “foreign” and “imported”, and between “parts” and “materials” may or may not be significant. As pointed out, Case used the terms “imported materials” on a limited number of patterns (only one that I know of). The Case example cited does not say “ parts”, which can be read to mean pre-fabricated pieces (liners, bolsters, blades, etc. It says “materials”, implying raw materials like steel, brass, plastics, etc.

Ken

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:07 am**

On the 15th of November 1967redrider started this thread Weed & Co., today on the 14th of December someone else started a thread Weed & Co Cutlery. No wonder the system gets clogged up and confusing sometimes with so many threads all about the same topic.

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:15 am**

I saw a bunch of these on ebay. When you look closely at the photos there are a lot of fit/finish issues, blemishes, poorly fitted scales, etc. Maybe the folks assembling them had a few too many tokes, I don't know. They look like lower end, Chinese made knives to me. Maybe they do some "finishing" work here or something. I'd like to see a video of the production process on these. The people putting these out are good at marketing, weed is very popular these days lol.

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:43 am**

cudgee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:07 am On.....

Just look how many "gas prices in your area......" threads there are in the "off topic" forum.
I think there are 7. That is just one out of many, many, many examples. It's called NOT
utilizing the "SEARCH" option.

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:25 pm**

At least Bryan doesn't charge us per post!

I see I topped the 10,000 mark earlier this month.

Posted: **Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:12 pm**

1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:25 pm At least Bryan doesn't charge us per post!

I see I topped the 10,000 mark earlier this month.

Posted: **Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:50 pm**

Maybe the imported parts are the blade steel? German, as are Case?
I poopooed the new Winchester and Primble knives too until I snagged 1. pretty damned nice. Better than a new Case for sure.Just up therte in price.

Posted: **Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:26 pm**

I watched the youtube review last night. This one isn't for me. It just doesn't look well made enough to be worth the price and the whole pot angle puts me off. It looks like a novelty knife that you would see in a head shop. If you can get a Rough Ryder that is better made for considerably less, what's the point?

Posted: **Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:39 pm**

Here's some new Case box pictures I rounded up, for learning purposes, and thanks to those who posted them. The being phased out Case American Flag boxes do not have this wording. Also posting a Weed & Co. tube for comparison.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:16 am**

The "imported" materials that Case uses may refer to stag (from India) or camel bone (from ... camels!).
I have no insider information on their manufacturing processes, nor am I defending them. Just wondering if this may be what is meant.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:46 pm**

I dont get the shield style? but the weed & Co. is a legit knife brand from yeRS AGO. tHEY WERE MAKERS FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS IN nEW yORK, OR SO iVE READ. tHE WEED & cO NAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED UNTIL THE CRAFTSMEN REACH THEIR TOP GAME AND WHEN THE WORKMANSHIP IS "THERE" THE NAME WILL BE CHANGED TO SCHATT & mORGAN. (my caps button is/was stuck). At least they are keeping the brand made in USA. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. The web is full of BS and rumors. Some prove true, most do not.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:46 pm**

Based on the Case box label, one could potentially think that the "imported materials" came from France or some other French-speaking country (Canada, perhaps), otherwise why print the French translation on the box?

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:49 pm**

The new Case box wording was a shocker to me, Q.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:15 pm**

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:46 pm Based on the Case box label, one could potentially think that the "imported materials" came from France or some other French-speaking country (Canada, perhaps), otherwise why print the French translation on the box?

That is a requirement for selling in Canada.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:28 pm**

bigshot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:15 pm
QTCut5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:46 pm Based on the Case box label, one could potentially think that the "imported materials" came from France or some other French-speaking country (Canada, perhaps), otherwise why print the French translation on the box?
That is a requirement for selling in Canada.

Did Case not sell in Canada before? Or is this a new Canadian law?

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:07 pm**

We know that Case gets their bone from Brazil.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:42 pm**

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:28 pm
bigshot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:15 pm
QTCut5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:46 pm Based on the Case box label, one could potentially think that the "imported materials" came from France or some other French-speaking country (Canada, perhaps), otherwise why print the French translation on the box?
That is a requirement for selling in Canada.
Did Case not sell in Canada before? Or is this a new Canadian law?

Canadian Law mate, for as long as I can remember.

Yup, that's one made for up here... Because, second nationally recognized language is Quebec French. Which is like actual French, but different. Think of Normandy Slur.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:45 pm**

So you guys think these black Case boxes were made strictly for Canadian export?

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:48 pm**

robpa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:46 pm I dont get the shield style? but the weed & Co. is a legit knife brand from yeRS AGO. tHEY WERE MAKERS FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS IN nEW yORK, OR SO iVE READ. tHE WEED & cO NAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED UNTIL THE CRAFTSMEN REACH THEIR TOP GAME AND WHEN THE WORKMANSHIP IS "THERE" THE NAME WILL BE CHANGED TO SCHATT & mORGAN. (my caps button is/was stuck). At least they are keeping the brand made in USA. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. The web is full of BS and rumors. Some prove true, most do not.

Well mate, they do have a ways to go yet... My buddy & me's order was a bust, too many finishing issues on both hunters.

It really is a bummer, becuase with a little more work, they could've been an excellent first run. Oh well, they are learning, just takes a good bit of time, to learn the craft from the ground up. Cross fingers next drop will be fixed.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:52 pm**

1967redrider wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:45 pm So you guys think these black Case boxes were made strictly for Canadian export?

Yup mate. We're the only Country on earth, I believe, to still have these kind of import laws still in effect. I believe France themselves did away said laws quite awhile ago now.
But don't quote me on this mate, I'm just going by foggy memories here.

It all stems from are long history of protectionist measures... Pre-NAFTA days...

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