camillus #72

[knifetime]

I sure am.So Jerry was that McGrew a Camillus?

I'm looking at a Yellow Jaket Moore Mans feed unused #72 that looks real nice.My dad worked in a feed mill 34 years.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140856236148?ss ... 1423.l2649

[jerryd6818]

Pretty sure the McGrews were made by Camillus. They have all the ear-marks of a Camillus, from the matchstrike pull on the main blade to the way the handles are attached.

I saw the Moore Mans feed knife. Looks pretty nice. I won't be bidding. Since it's being sold by The Dusty Duck, I expect it to go for at least $35-$45 if not more. He has a pretty loyal following. JMO

[MrBlister]

Is this ole scout on a 72 frame...
or is it called a 72 scout??
or .. . . 3 5/8" ???

[tjmurphy]

Yeh it is but it seems the Scouts were not numbered, at least mine was not.

[jerryd6818]

Is this ole scout on a 72 frame...
or is it called a 72 scout??
or .. . . 3 5/8" ???

Jeez, Mr.B -- That's a short line, made in the late '40s. (I'm gonna say real late '40s since it has the small clip blade) Has those funky black shrinky dink composite handles but looks to be in real good condition except for the tip on the small clip blade. How long ya had it?



T.J. -- I just looked and neither one of my #72 Scouts has the 72 on the back of the blade.

[tjmurphy]

I saw this one but thought you would not be interested. The guy gives it a number.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Whittle ... 3a79f0151e

[jerryd6818]

Whoa Martha! $70!! He must not be in a big hurry to sell it (like in this decade). You're right, I'm not interested. Besides, I already have a long line Scout that's about as good of condition as that one. Some of these people are nuts.


I have a 72 22LR-6 coming in the mail today and unless it's some off brand tang stamp I don't have or it's cheap as snot, I'm going to pass on anymore for a while.

[tjmurphy]

Did you notice that the guy assigns a model number to it? Two numbers actually??

[jerryd6818]

Yeah but I kind of ignored it. I don't know what the W3A stands for but the #1047 is a Camillus pattern (or maybe catalog) number for a #72 Scout knife.

[tjmurphy]

Is the single pin consistant with that vintage?

[jerryd6818]

It appears to be for the Scouts. All the non-Scouts of all vintages have pinned handles EXCEPT the '89-Close Brown Delrin handles.

The '89-Close Yello-Jaket and '89-'03 #5 with the wood handles and brass bolsters are pinned handles. The only thing they made from '04-Close was the Yello-Jakets and the unfinished one I just got has pinned handles.

[MrBlister]

Jerry . . . mine JUST arrived TEX today...
Rooskied off Elizabeth on ebay..
Took some fancy dancin and Old Spice lilac water
to git it too. !!!!!

appears to have 5 pins on ea side... if that helps

[jerryd6818]

appears to have 5 pins on ea side... if that helps

I cleaned your picture up and lightened it and I don't see them. I just see the blade pivot pins in the bolsters and the rocker pin but you have the knife in hand, I don't, so I'm not going to dispute your word. Good pick up. One with a Boy Scout emblem like yours is my next quest, after I sit a spell and catch my breath.

[jerryd6818]

In today's mail, a 1997 Camillus #72 22LR-6. Brass bolsters, brown Delrin handles, main blade etched "Rimfire Classic", brass 22 Long Rifle Cartridge Shield.

[MrBlister]

Jerry.. that one is a cutie !!!!

If ya l@@k close at this pic, and lighten it some....
Ya see 2 pins stacked at the bottom bolster..
there is also 2 more similar at the top bolster..
they are black tipped to blend IN with the black comp.
again,, i know nuthin of camillus....
but i know 5 pins when i see em.. LOL
surely this is no abberation and surely
some of these members have seen this..

[tjmurphy]

Man, I've never seen a 72 pattern with five pins on each side and I don't think that Camillus did either. Someone else had to have done that. That's interesting.

[jerryd6818]

I'm not disputing your word Mr.B. I just didn't see them and had not seen them on any of the knives I've had but then I don't have a short line with those handles on it.

I added a lot of backlight to your picture. Is this what you're talking about? Black is awfully difficult to photograph. (at least for me it is)


Dale! Carrmillus!! Front and center, please!!

[orvet]

That is called prong construction. Prongs of the liner are punched out of the liner and the hot plastic is pressed onto the hot prongs and they melt into the handles and hold them securely.

Here is a Jack that has 4 prongs on each side. As you can see it is a 4 line stamp with celluloid handles.

These pics show a large stockman (a #69 I think) that has prongs. Because of the wide handles it has 2 more prongs along the top of the handle, not needed on the smaller jack I posted or on the slim profile of a #72.

[tjmurphy]

Well I'll be Foot

[jerryd6818]

Well, that clears up a lot, Dale. Thanks. I had never seen the prongs poke through the handles before or if I did, I never noticed it. That's definitely something a knife mechanic would know to point out. I feel reasonably certain it's because of that old 'shrinky dink' plastic they used back then. Come to think of it, I have seen the prongs come through the handles on utility/camp knives from that period with those 'shrinky dink' scales.

Mr.B you can verify what Dale is saying by looking inside the blade well in strong sunlight or with a flashlight. You should be able to see the triangular holes in the liners (corresponding to the locations of what you've described as pins) where the prongs have been punched out.

Once again, I've learned something on AAPK. Maybe we should change the motto from "The friendliest knife web site." to "The most educational knife web site."

[MrBlister]

Well .. . Dale dont need verified on nuthin.... BUT......
they are visible inside the blade well .. . Even I learned sumpn.

regards.... Paprika Huffman

[knifetime]

Well, that clears up a lot, Dale. Thanks. I had never seen the prongs poke through the handles before or if I did, I never noticed it. That's definitely something a knife mechanic would know to point out. I feel reasonably certain it's because of that old 'shrinky dink' plastic they used back then. Come to think of it, I have seen the prongs come through the handles on utility/camp knives from that period with those 'shrinky dink' scales.

Mr.B you can verify what Dale is saying by looking inside the blade well in strong sunlight or with a flashlight. You should be able to see the triangular holes in the liners (corresponding to the locations of what you've described as pins) where the prongs have been punched out.

Once again, I've learned something on AAPK. Maybe we should change the motto from "The friendliest knife web site." to "The most educational knife web site."

Jerryd I find that to be very true.The best info on the web and the best people.

[carrmillus]

........well, i guess i'll have to get out all 109 of mine and start looking for 5 pin handles...... ......this may take awhile!!!!........guess i can oil and sharpen all of them while i'm at it,huh???? ...................

[jerryd6818]

109

That's surely not all 72's and their clones. That has to include your true whittlers.

[carrmillus]

....that's all of 'em!!!....42 of them are whittlers, and i think i've got 7 stockmen,the rest are all different patterns..... ......95% of them are carbon steel, and i usually try to clean them and oil them twice a year, so this time i will look for 5 pin handles!!!...... ........just when you think you know a lot about knives, something else comes up to research!!!....... ...........