Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[treefarmer]

I just blew up the picture I posted earlier and noticed several things:
1-Lil' Phil was using a nail apron for a shell carrier, I believe it says Townsends Building Supply.
2-the shotgun layin' on the hood is an Ithica 37 16 ga., it is long gone (Colonel 26 should appreciate that one) traded for a Winchester 24, 16 ga. that is also long gone.
3-the now rusted out red grain wagon in the background was traded last year for 30-06 and two Leopold scopes.
4-the old Willys Jeep wagon was traded for a Winchester 92 32-20 rifle, at least I still have that rifle.
5-in the middle of Philip Jr.'s forehead is a little bloody wad dove feathers.
Treefarmer

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

My first shotgun was a .22...

No, really! It was a Remington 580, which is a single-shot smooth bore .22. I shot .22 birdshot shells. My father figured I couldn't get in too much trouble with that gun, because the range of the .22 shot shells was not very far. And, they wouldn't penetrate the high tin roof on the barn where he wanted me to shoot the sparrows that were cr@pping on his tractors. A lot of sparrows, blackbirds and lizards met their demise from that rifle.

And yes, I still have it!

[Colonel26]

I just blew up the picture I posted earlier and noticed several things:
1-Lil' Phil was using a nail apron for a shell carrier, I believe it says Townsends Building Supply.
2-the shotgun layin' on the hood is an Ithica 37 16 ga., it is long gone (Colonel 26 should appreciate that one) traded for a Winchester 24, 16 ga. that is also long gone.
3-the now rusted out red grain wagon in the background was traded last year for 30-06 and two Leopold scopes.
4-the old Willys Jeep wagon was traded for a Winchester 92 32-20 rifle, at least I still have that rifle.
5-in the middle of Philip Jr.'s forehead is a little bloody wad dove feathers.
Treefarmer

I do appreciate that shotgun, my favorite brand and gauge!!

Great picture!

[jerryd6818]

I received my first shotgun (which I still have) on Christmas when I was 15 or 16 (probably 1960). It's a Mossberg bolt action 16 ga. with adjustable choke.

Not my picture. It doesn't have the sling swivels

[samb1955]

My first shotgun was a JC Higgins bolt action 410 and I still have it.

[garddogg56]

Ken As for bird hunting in the thick a .410 IS an experts shot I like a .410 in an open field or on a tote road usually in a Thompson contender.

[Mumbleypeg]

Ken As for bird hunting in the thick a .410 IS an experts shot I like a .410 in an open field or on a tote road usually in a Thompson contender.

I like it too, just not for a beginner. JMO.

Ken

[treefarmer]

I always wanted a gun when I was a little feller.
There was an old Remington 33 single shot .22 that I carried around as boy that belonged to my mother. I remember her killing a giant rattlesnake with it when I was a tiny boy. The dog had him coiled up and momma opened a little window beside the chimney and shot him. She then ran outside and parked her car on top of him till Dad got home for work.
I carried that little rifle till I got to trading guns and junk as a young teen. Dad said you got to be 16 to carry a gun in the Florida woods and when you are 16 we'll see about getting you a gun. By the time I got to 16, Dad said, "Son you don't need any more guns, you already have too many!" Well I figured a promise was a promise and I put up a good argument and he ended up paying the difference with me trading one of my guns for a new 311 Stevens 12 ga. About 4 or 5 years later I killed my 1st deer with that old double barrel. Those old Stevens guns were and are really a utility grade, kinda like a 2X6 for a stock with 3/4" pipes for barrels. No class but tough as nails.
I've tried to keep a ledger of my trades over the years or at least since my wife and I married. Wish I would have kept all of them!
Treefarmer

[Colonel26]

I always wanted a gun when I was a little feller.
There was an old Remington 33 single shot .22 that I carried around as boy that belonged to my mother. I remember her killing a giant rattlesnake with it when I was a tiny boy. The dog had him coiled up and momma opened a little window beside the chimney and shot him. She then ran outside and parked her car on top of him till Dad got home for work.
I carried that little rifle till I got to trading guns and junk as a young teen. Dad said you got to be 16 to carry a gun in the Florida woods and when you are 16 we'll see about getting you a gun. By the time I got to 16, Dad said, "Son you don't need any more guns, you already have too many!" Well I figured a promise was a promise and I put up a good argument and he ended up paying the difference with me trading one of my guns for a new 311 Stevens 12 ga. About 4 or 5 years later I killed my 1st deer with that old double barrel. Those old Stevens guns were and are really a utility grade, kinda like a 2X6 for a stock with 3/4" pipes for barrels. No class but tough as nails.
I've tried to keep a ledger of my trades over the years or at least since my wife and I married. Wish I would have kept all of them!
Treefarmer

One of the best quail guns I ever had was a Stevens 311 12 gauge. We cut the 30 inch barrels down to 28 inches, cut the stock the thickness of a rubber pad plus 1/4” and installed the pad. I’ve never had a gun that patterned as good as that one. I wish I still had it.

I have a Springfield (pre 311) 16 gauge, and my middle boy had my daddy’s old 311 20 gauge. The older ones, pre 311, weren’t near as blocky as the latter ones.

My favorite one though is a 1949 minty 311 410 that my wife picked up at a pawn shop a few years ago. It’s a hoot to shoot, but that thing is choked full and fuller! It’s like shooting a 22 rifle.

[dlr110]

When I go to a gun range, right now I have to drive about 25 minutes to an outdoor range or 40 minutes to an indoor range. I found out there is a new indoor being built 10 minutes from my house so I went by there on Saturday. The Store is open now and I was told the indoor pistol range will be ready in about 2-3 months, followed by an indoor rifle range in the spring of 2021. They even have a few knives in their store, doubt they will be the type I’m looking for in my collection. I’ll be glad when the range is ready.
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[treefarmer]

David,
That's pretty cool, a new gun store and range that close to your house! I noticed in the picture, the sign also said "& Manufacturing". What are they producing?
Treefarmer

[dlr110]

I didn't get into that with them, but they are also building their website and they had this listed on it, not sure if they have more planned in the future. The entire site is going to be bigger than any range I've ever seen.

Gunsmithing - Cleaning to major repair
Engraving - Firearms to Personal items
Gun Finishing - Hydro-dipping, Duracoat, and Cerakote

We offer a variety of classes taught by Retired Law Officials and NRA Instructors.
LTC classes ( weekday nights and Weekends)
Personal Protection classes
Women LTC classes

Spanish LTC classes
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[Waukonda]

I have been enjoying the recent posts/discussion of old guns. Here is, probably, my favorite of those that I own. An old "Elsie" 16 ga. If I remember correctly, the serial # puts it being made in 1929.

[Colonel26]

I have been enjoying the recent posts/discussion of old guns. Here is, probably, my favorite of those that I own. An old "Elsie" 16 ga. If I remember correctly, the serial # puts it being made in 1929.

Now that’s a dandy right there!

L.C. Smith was one of the original owners of Ithaca as well! That makes it even more special in my book!

[garddogg56]

Love that double

[treefarmer]

Waukonda,
What is the length of the barrels of your L.C.Smith? They look mighty long.
Treefarmer

[Waukonda]

Waukonda,
What is the length of the barrels of your L.C.Smith? They look mighty long.
Treefarmer

They are only 28". I agree, from my lousy photo, they do look long, but this one is not equipped with the 30" as were some.

Thanks for the comments, guys, just something about an old S x S.

[treefarmer]

Thanks, Ike.
If I had guessed I would have guessed at least 32" looking at the picture, kinda like a "long Tom".
I really enjoy old double guns. I've had a Parker GHE 16 ga. for years and have picked up some junk Parkers along the way. Had beautiful Winchester 24 that I traded for a Winchester 1895 carbine (30 Govt/ 30-40 Krag).
Sad to say but I spend more time with my old knives than I do my guns.
Treefarmer

[Doc B]

Not sure I've got enough firepower here. Ha! Keltec .32, with my morning carry.
Our morning walk, is on a 100 acre Preserve, that belongs to our homeowner's association. They recently put up this sign. It's a little hard to tell, on the photo...but the place is rooted up, all over the place. We see hogs every week or two. Fortunately hogs are extremely skittish and the odds of them coming after you are almost nonexistent. I like the sign...I think it probably helps keep the sheeple out.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Give that pup some grease paint on his face & tail and he'll be invisible!

[Doc B]

Give that pup some grease paint on his face & tail and he'll be invisible!

Good idea! I'll have to remember that, for hunting season. He's rapidly outgrowing his "coat". Mama will have to make a new one, for next winter.

[OLDE CUTLER]

The big annual gunshow was held in Sioux Falls last weekend and with 1400 tables to inspect, I was worn out by the time I saw them all over 2 days. There was one thing, however that I had not seen or even heard of before. A fellow had on his table what was called a "anti garrotter belt pistol". It seems that at one time in history there was a fear among the public (real or not) that when you were walking around in public places, some one would come up behind you and attempt to "garrotte" you, either in a robbery attempt, or an assassination attempt. Garrotting was done by slipping a piece or rope, wire, or a piece of wood over your head, and pulling with both hands to strangle the victim. So necessity being the mother of invention when this was a public fear in London in the 1850s, fellow named Henry Ball invented a pistol to defend yourself against this type of attack. When in use, the pistol mounted on ones belt behind you to effectively shoot someone behind you with out seeing them.

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As you can see in this internet photo, it would attach to the belt on the rear of the body, a charge of black powder would be loaded along with a bullet, and a percussion cap would arm the system. The lever at the bottom was for firing the pistol. The guy displaying the one at the gunshow explained that one would run a piece of cord tied to the loop on the lever, run the cord up the sleeve of a garment being worn, and loop the string around the fingers in such a way so that if one was attacked from the rear by a garrottier, all that was needed was to throw the hand straight out in front of you, and the piece would fire. Can you imagine that happening? This would have been at a time before antibiotics, and if you were shot by this device, if it did not kill you immediately, your chances of expiring from infection by pieces of clothing and other debris being forced into the wound would be very high. I also found an internet source linked below for more information on this device and its use. https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.ph ... c-reacted/

[Steve Warden]

That's pretty wild!

[Byrd]

Nice write up OC. That's pretty cool, I've never heard of such a device. It'd have to be for up close and personal. With no more barrel length than that you won't have much of a powder charge or time for it to burn. I wonder what caliber it is?

[Doc B]

The big annual gunshow was held in Sioux Falls last weekend and with 1400 tables to inspect, I was worn out by the time I saw them all over 2 days. There was one thing, however that I had not seen or even heard of before. A fellow had on his table what was called a "anti garrotter belt pistol". It seems that at one time in history there was a fear among the public (real or not) that when you were walking around in public places, some one would come up behind you and attempt to "garrotte" you, either in a robbery attempt, or an assassination attempt. Garrotting was done by slipping a piece or rope, wire, or a piece of wood over your head, and pulling with both hands to strangle the victim. So necessity being the mother of invention when this was a public fear in London in the 1850s, fellow named Henry Ball invented a pistol to defend yourself against this type of attack. When in use, the pistol mounted on ones belt behind you to effectively shoot someone behind you with out seeing them.
anti garroting pistol.jpg
As you can see in this internet photo, it would attach to the belt on the rear of the body, a charge of black powder would be loaded along with a bullet, and a percussion cap would arm the system. The lever at the bottom was for firing the pistol. The guy displaying the one at the gunshow explained that one would run a piece of cord tied to the loop on the lever, run the cord up the sleeve of a garment being worn, and loop the string around the fingers in such a way so that if one was attacked from the rear by a garrottier, all that was needed was to throw the hand straight out in front of you, and the piece would fire. Can you imagine that happening? This would have been at a time before antibiotics, and if you were shot by this device, if it did not kill you immediately, your chances of expiring from infection by pieces of clothing and other debris being forced into the wound would be very high. I also found an internet source linked below for more information on this device and its use. https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.ph ... c-reacted/

Very cool! I'd probably wave at a friend...and shoot the guy behind me.