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Do you really intend to use a .177 cal. pellet gun for self defense, or was that a joke??WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:40 pm Well fellers, i'm finally fulfilling a long childhood dream of mine. Purchased my first hand gun!Decided to pull an all nighter do to black Friday deals
. I think I picked a good un', a CZ P-09 Duty FDE by ASG. All the reviews, blogs, youtube vids say it's one of the best .177 cal air pistol for it's price range. Very high quality replica of the real CZ P-09, down to every detail. Here's a snap shot from part of ASG's catalogue;
Precision Performance Realism
The CZ P-09 DUTY is a full-size tactical pistol with an integrated rail for mounting light and/or laser. Developed by ASG under license from CZ, this airgun is designed from original 3D CAD drawings, resulting in an authentic look and realistic handling. Its blowback function makes the metal slide move with every shot fired, creating strong recoil, adding to the shooting experience.
The CZ P-09 DUTY features a rifled inner barrel allowing the use of pellets, this improves range and precision. Add to this a 3-dot sight system that gives the operator a quick and easy target acquisition. Every pistol comes with its own unique serial number and authentic CZ markings.
The CZ P-09 DUTY is one of a new generation of Airguns capable of firing both pellets and BBs from an ingenious stick magazine with a 2x8 rd. capacity. It is powered by a 12g CO2 cartridge for reliable and consistent performance, coupled with a comfortable ergonomic design, this airgun will deliver a quality experience. Ref. 17537
Features: • Rifled barrel • Ambidextrous 2-step safety • Blowback • Detailed replica • 3-Dot sights • Tactical rail • 16 round magazine capacity (2x8) • Uses Diabolo pellets or steel BBs • CO2 powered
Specifications: Length: 205mm/8,2inch Barrel length: 94mm/3,8inch Weight: 702gr/1,6lb Velocity: Up to 150ms/492fps if using PBA pellets. Average 110ms/360fps Mag. Capacity: 16 rounds Standard Mag.: 17538
And the best part …. Made in Japan and only cost me $135 Cdn. or $115 U.S. dollars with tax, and free shipping!![]()
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Went for the full desert tan version, me thinks it looks best out of all the other models. I think I have a great gun now for plinking, targets, small game extermination, self defence, edc, ect. Just have to wait for her to arrive, then ready to roll! Will post pics of her up and running.
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Dude I live in Canada. It's impossible for people to use "real" handguns as self defense, or for any other matter at the. It's almost to the point now-a-days that you can't even take it to the licenced hand gun range. If the police/game wardens stop and find you carrying in all the proper cases ect. They will still find a reason to seize it and charge you with "unlawful transportation of prohibited firearms", or something along those lines. For us honest people handguns are only good as wall hangers, and not even that. And it's looking like they are going to be cracking down even harder on firearms ownership. Funny, gov sure seems not willing to tackle criminal activity in this day and age. Like in "Commy-Forina" ….edge213 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:25 amDo you really intend to use a .177 cal. pellet gun for self defense, or was that a joke??WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:40 pm Well fellers, i'm finally fulfilling a long childhood dream of mine. Purchased my first hand gun!Decided to pull an all nighter do to black Friday deals
. I think I picked a good un', a CZ P-09 Duty FDE by ASG. All the reviews, blogs, youtube vids say it's one of the best .177 cal air pistol for it's price range. Very high quality replica of the real CZ P-09, down to every detail. Here's a snap shot from part of ASG's catalogue;
Precision Performance Realism
The CZ P-09 DUTY is a full-size tactical pistol with an integrated rail for mounting light and/or laser. Developed by ASG under license from CZ, this airgun is designed from original 3D CAD drawings, resulting in an authentic look and realistic handling. Its blowback function makes the metal slide move with every shot fired, creating strong recoil, adding to the shooting experience.
The CZ P-09 DUTY features a rifled inner barrel allowing the use of pellets, this improves range and precision. Add to this a 3-dot sight system that gives the operator a quick and easy target acquisition. Every pistol comes with its own unique serial number and authentic CZ markings.
The CZ P-09 DUTY is one of a new generation of Airguns capable of firing both pellets and BBs from an ingenious stick magazine with a 2x8 rd. capacity. It is powered by a 12g CO2 cartridge for reliable and consistent performance, coupled with a comfortable ergonomic design, this airgun will deliver a quality experience. Ref. 17537
Features: • Rifled barrel • Ambidextrous 2-step safety • Blowback • Detailed replica • 3-Dot sights • Tactical rail • 16 round magazine capacity (2x8) • Uses Diabolo pellets or steel BBs • CO2 powered
Specifications: Length: 205mm/8,2inch Barrel length: 94mm/3,8inch Weight: 702gr/1,6lb Velocity: Up to 150ms/492fps if using PBA pellets. Average 110ms/360fps Mag. Capacity: 16 rounds Standard Mag.: 17538
And the best part …. Made in Japan and only cost me $135 Cdn. or $115 U.S. dollars with tax, and free shipping!![]()
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Went for the full desert tan version, me thinks it looks best out of all the other models. I think I have a great gun now for plinking, targets, small game extermination, self defence, edc, ect. Just have to wait for her to arrive, then ready to roll! Will post pics of her up and running.

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I do feel sorry for our Canadian friends.
We have to keep fighting all the time for our 2nd amendment rights.
All the idiots running for the Demacrat nomination for president would like to take it away.
Thank God for the Hoosier State.
We have to keep fighting all the time for our 2nd amendment rights.
All the idiots running for the Demacrat nomination for president would like to take it away.
Thank God for the Hoosier State.
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Nice grouping.
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I enjoyed shooting the Thompson in the Army for familiarization, however I preferred the M-3 "Grease Gun" which was also a .45 cal. If you are not familiar with this, it actually looks very similar to a fat grease gun with a wire stock and a long magazine hanking out of it. It was relatively lightweight and handy. Lee Marvin used one in a scene from the Dirty Dozen.
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A Chicago Typewriter, nice! I shot an auto .556 Nato at Silver Eagle in Ashburn at their 50 yd. indoor range and it was a lot of fun. I've always wanted a Thompson but the Federal stamp is pretty pricey, on top of the price of the firearm.
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This was a fun shoot. And expensive, and my first full auto experience. I was impressed with the quality of the weapon. Very precise machining and even parkerizing. The trigger was horrible and it weighed 10 lbs. I figured I could manage it because in semi auto there was no recoil. Full auto was weird because of no recoil but the gun had a mind of it's own! It wanted to climb to the right. By the time I figured out short bursts I was out of money! A great experience though and now I want one!
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My one and only experience with full auto was exactly the same. My oldest son and I had an opportunity to shoot at a police practice range (at the invitation of a LEO friend). We were offered the chance to shoot a full auto if we provided the ammo. I shot what I could afford (100 rounds). Shooting it was a blast, but it was over quick!Byrd wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:18 pm This was a fun shoot. And expensive, and my first full auto experience. I was impressed with the quality of the weapon. Very precise machining and even parkerizing. The trigger was horrible and it weighed 10 lbs. I figured I could manage it because in semi auto there was no recoil. Full auto was weird because of no recoil but the gun had a mind of it's own! It wanted to climb to the right. By the time I figured out short bursts I was out of money! A great experience though and now I want one!
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Was touring the Cold Harbor battlefield met up with a local resident who struck up a conversation with my wife and I. Wind up is he gave us a couple of pick-ups from "private property" where he has permission to hunt relics. He said you could tell dropped minnie balls from fired ones due to the deformation in the skirt that engaged the rifling. I had one each. Tickled pink to have met this fella.
Dimitri those pinfire cartridges are pretty rare and neat to have, thanks for showing.
I have showed this before, only BP era gun I have, I think. A Colt 22 short open top revolver made from 1871 thru 1877 according to Bluebook. Non firing but i tried, firing pin won't reach the cartridge rim. Probably a good thing.
Dimitri those pinfire cartridges are pretty rare and neat to have, thanks for showing.
I have showed this before, only BP era gun I have, I think. A Colt 22 short open top revolver made from 1871 thru 1877 according to Bluebook. Non firing but i tried, firing pin won't reach the cartridge rim. Probably a good thing.
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That's a very cool old Colt!

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CZ P-09 (.177) is in!
After only 3 days our Canadian snail mail system
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Anyway, pistol is even better then I hoped for. Very hefty, substantial weight to it. Very comfy hand feel to it, (as you know, one of the most important things when it comes to firearms, and pistols especially is hand feel
). But it is a very large frame, so medium to smaller handed people would have a hard time handling it, like the real P-09. Build quality is simply sublime. All metal internals, barrel, and slide. Very high quality polyimer frame (just like the real P-09). Only think I kind of miss is cut out slide area, but how much can you ask for from a $120 air pistol
. Made in Japan is icing on the cake.
Part fit quality is excellent, absolutely no sloppy wobble in trigger, slide, hammer, safety, decock, ect.
Dry firing, trigger pull ain't that bad, just perfect for this size of gun. Cycles smooth with nice feel to it. Really great for double action trigger, first half of pull indexes mag clip, then fires the bb/pellet. No clunkiness in cycle at all. I think they nailed this trigger perfectly, Japanese workmanship for ya! Rifled barrel is a plus, so I think i'll only run good quality pellets through it, for now at least. And threaded barrel shroud, to attach mock suppressor/extension.
Also the co2 loading system is quite brilliant. No stupid hex key/plug to deal with.
All in all I am very pleased with this one. Needs no mods that I can see of, ready to go out of the box (which is always a plus
).
After only 3 days our Canadian snail mail system
Anyway, pistol is even better then I hoped for. Very hefty, substantial weight to it. Very comfy hand feel to it, (as you know, one of the most important things when it comes to firearms, and pistols especially is hand feel
Part fit quality is excellent, absolutely no sloppy wobble in trigger, slide, hammer, safety, decock, ect.
Dry firing, trigger pull ain't that bad, just perfect for this size of gun. Cycles smooth with nice feel to it. Really great for double action trigger, first half of pull indexes mag clip, then fires the bb/pellet. No clunkiness in cycle at all. I think they nailed this trigger perfectly, Japanese workmanship for ya! Rifled barrel is a plus, so I think i'll only run good quality pellets through it, for now at least. And threaded barrel shroud, to attach mock suppressor/extension.
Also the co2 loading system is quite brilliant. No stupid hex key/plug to deal with.
All in all I am very pleased with this one. Needs no mods that I can see of, ready to go out of the box (which is always a plus
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Very nice, Willy, glad you are pleased with your purchase!
My bride to be expressed interest in learning to shoot firearms over our Thanksgiving break, I'll post some pictures, weather permitting. Not giving her a 10 gauge or B.A.R. to see how she copes with it, probably starting with .22s and then maybe working up to .45 auto and LC. The BP conversions are a lot of fun to shoot with minimal kick also, not sure if she would like the AR.
Of course the first thing I'm teaching her is firearm safety.
My bride to be expressed interest in learning to shoot firearms over our Thanksgiving break, I'll post some pictures, weather permitting. Not giving her a 10 gauge or B.A.R. to see how she copes with it, probably starting with .22s and then maybe working up to .45 auto and LC. The BP conversions are a lot of fun to shoot with minimal kick also, not sure if she would like the AR.
Of course the first thing I'm teaching her is firearm safety.
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Well it's been exactly 1 week since I cleaned my hand cannons. Today I cleaned my rifles and shotguns. But rather than post pictures of them, I've decided to post a picture of the ammunition that my handguns, rifles and shotguns use. Some of my calibers overlap, so I can shoot rounds from both a handgun and a rifle. They are pictured below. Left to right they are .300, .303, 12 Gauge, .223, 7.62 x 39, .500, .357, .41, .44, .45, 9mm and .22 (3 sizes). I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING MY WEAPONS. Thank you. Click on the picture to ENLARGE.
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Depending on where you live in the USA a lot of States are well into Deer Season .... shoot straight fellas
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Great line up there Skip
. Quite a few of my favorite calibers in there.
Quick note on CZ ….
Picked up big box of CO2 and 6000 rounds of .177 copper coated bb's. Loaded up 1 co2 cartridge and dry fired a few times out over the deck. From first impressions, it's scary how realistic recoil/operation is! Mom's eyes got big when she saw/heard it, bro thinks it's awesome, dad doesn't want it fired in the house ….
. Don't blame him though! She loud! Just like the real one. Got to wear eye/hearing protection with this one for sure. I'll give accuracy update with pics coming up.
Quick note on CZ ….
Picked up big box of CO2 and 6000 rounds of .177 copper coated bb's. Loaded up 1 co2 cartridge and dry fired a few times out over the deck. From first impressions, it's scary how realistic recoil/operation is! Mom's eyes got big when she saw/heard it, bro thinks it's awesome, dad doesn't want it fired in the house ….
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Excellent Marlin! I’m a bit of a Marlin but myself. I didn’t get a shot on a deer this time. But it was good to be out nonetheless.Brumbydownunder wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:24 am Depending on where you live in the USA a lot of States are well into Deer Season .... shoot straight fellas
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This afternoon me and the oldest two boys and two of the neighbor boys went out in the field and sang freedom’s song on this thanksgiving day. We shot the AR I built this last spring and then an assortment of 22s.
My year old English Shepherd pup even joined us. I’ve never seen a collie type dog that likes gun fire like she does. She sits beside you looking at the AR and when we shot she chased down the empty casings. Lol. Then when we went down to check our targets of assorted bottles and junk she’d go too and make sure she stole one to play with.
I don’t know who had more fun: me, the boys, or the pup!
My year old English Shepherd pup even joined us. I’ve never seen a collie type dog that likes gun fire like she does. She sits beside you looking at the AR and when we shot she chased down the empty casings. Lol. Then when we went down to check our targets of assorted bottles and junk she’d go too and make sure she stole one to play with.
I don’t know who had more fun: me, the boys, or the pup!
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Great lookin' levers there Colonel26
. I'm mightily partial to the Browning BL-22 .22 lever gun myself, after testing her out at the range day back in June. Action is smooth as butter and you don't know when you run out of ammo
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I did try out the Marlin 45-70 guide gun, and it was like getting run over by a mack truck!
Dummy me shouldered it for all 3 round
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Quick note on the CZ. Don't ever fire it in doors with bb's! Those things ricochet like crazy back at you. Fired a few shots freehand, in the shop at about 8 paces from target, plywood backstop about 6-7 feet away. Those things penned the target, bounced off the back stop, went back through the the target, hit the roof, the hit the wall behind me, then thumped into the gravel floor, and it was about 0 cel. inside. All I could take away from those first shots, is that she is quite accurate with Crosman "Copperhead" copper coated steel bbs.
I did try out the Marlin 45-70 guide gun, and it was like getting run over by a mack truck!
Quick note on the CZ. Don't ever fire it in doors with bb's! Those things ricochet like crazy back at you. Fired a few shots freehand, in the shop at about 8 paces from target, plywood backstop about 6-7 feet away. Those things penned the target, bounced off the back stop, went back through the the target, hit the roof, the hit the wall behind me, then thumped into the gravel floor, and it was about 0 cel. inside. All I could take away from those first shots, is that she is quite accurate with Crosman "Copperhead" copper coated steel bbs.
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Just saw this. Looks like fun - may have to ask Santa for one this year. I’m sure my grandkids would like it.
Anyone have any experience with one?
https://www.crosman.com/full-auto
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By grannies, that right there is as tempting as all-get-out.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:12 pm Just saw this. Looks like fun - may have to ask Santa for one this year. I’m sure my grandkids would like it.![]()
Anyone have any experience with one?
https://www.crosman.com/full-auto
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I hear they are A LOT OF FUN but uses up a bunch of bb's and c02.
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My holsters.
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Forget the kids! I want one of those! Loljerryd6818 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:21 pmBy grannies, that right there is as tempting as all-get-out.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:12 pm Just saw this. Looks like fun - may have to ask Santa for one this year. I’m sure my grandkids would like it.![]()
Anyone have any experience with one?
https://www.crosman.com/full-auto
Ken
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You said it dude! Kid's can fend for themselves. Men need to have fun at least once in a whileColonel26 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:53 pmForget the kids! I want one of those! Loljerryd6818 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:21 pmBy grannies, that right there is as tempting as all-get-out.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:12 pm Just saw this. Looks like fun - may have to ask Santa for one this year. I’m sure my grandkids would like it.![]()
Anyone have any experience with one?
https://www.crosman.com/full-auto
Ken
Reviews say that one is a great gun. But like samb said they do burn threw a ton of bb's and co2. But the fun factor ways heavily in it's favor. And copper plated bb's are pennies by the bucket load. Airsoft version would be even more economical, electric batteries and all. And 6mm airsoft bb's are even cheaper.
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