All About Pocket Knives

Mules are too much trouble. You need one of these...

How can mules be too much trouble? They work for room & board only and everything they spew out of their exhaust mechanisms is recyclable.

Even when they die, they become fertilizer for a large patch of ground.

How can any mechanical contrivance compete in any aspect other than time to completion of task?

Sometimes, I think The Amish have been right all along.

Charlie Noyes

espn77 wrote:

Mumbleypeg wrote:

espn77 wrote:Looks like you've taken good care of your 4440 Ken. Great tractors.

They are for sure. Sometimes just a good cussin works wonders on them!

Ken

Yes sir, something to be said for equipment with no electronics. Things we can still work on.

That's a fact.Today every idiot light/code you look up in your manual says contact your dealer.I had a 4240 for many years and was a good solid tractor.

RobesonsRme.com wrote:How can mules be too much trouble? They work for room & board only and everything they spew out of their exhaust mechanisms is recyclable.

Even when they die, they become fertilizer for a large patch of ground.

How can any mechanical contrivance compete in any aspect other than time to completion of task?

Sometimes, I think The Amish have been right all along.

Charlie Noyes

Charlie, you obviously don't live around any Amish.

peanut740 wrote:

espn77 wrote:
Yes sir, something to be said for equipment with no electronics. Things we can still work on.

That's a fact.Today every idiot light/code you look up in your manual says contact your dealer.I had a 4240 for many years and was a good solid tractor.

True Roger, but if you have a good dealer it helps. I have a 2013 JD 5085 that I bought used. It has electronics. Last spring I discovered rats had got under the hood, built a nest, and ate holes through both the coolant hose and diesel fuel hose. It was easy to replace both, but afterward when I turned on the key a light started flashing on the dash. I rolled through the codes. Like you said, the code that showed up wasn't in the manual. So I called the JD dealer's service department and told the guy that answered the phone my problem. He looked up the code on his computer and said it was "low throttle body voltage". Then he told me how to find the wire from the foot throttle to the fuel pump. Sure enough the rat had chewed through it just where it goes through to the engine side of the fire wall. It was a 5 minute fix to splice it back together. Problem solved. I've had nothing but good support from the dealer. (Knock on wood. )

Unfortunately splicing wires is about the sum total of my electronics repair skills.

Ken

peanut740 wrote:

RobesonsRme.com wrote:How can mules be too much trouble? They work for room & board only and everything they spew out of their exhaust mechanisms is recyclable.

Even when they die, they become fertilizer for a large patch of ground.

How can any mechanical contrivance compete in any aspect other than time to completion of task?

Sometimes, I think The Amish have been right all along.

Charlie Noyes

Charlie, you obviously don't live around any Amish.

Yeah Boiii! You tell em Charlie!!
Roger dunt no nuttin bout no Amish! Booiiii!

The only Amish I've been around were in Wisconsin and Missouri. They had modern machinery, but it was all pulled by draft horses and the mechanicals operated by the rotation of the wheels.

Hence, my comment.

Charlie

Just funnin w/ you fellas...

IMHO, Anyone that lives a clean life, and obeys the rule of their own church has to have a foot up on the rest of us (me) heathens.
Sometime I think I would give anything to just go back 80 or 90 years. When Important things were actually IMPORTANT.

Hold on... I'll post more on this later. My Dick Tracy watch says that I have an important email on my IPad.
Never mind, I just used my starTreck ear piece to forward it to my lap top in the Frankfurter office. I'm flying there in the company jet for lunch so I'll reply then

On second thought... The Amish dunt no nuttin' I'm IMPORTANT! I'm da man...Booooiiii!!!

We have a fairly large Amish population living in the general vicinity. This group has no automobiles but many of the men hire someone to haul them to work and back each day. Most who do that are in the construction business, primarily residential construction. They also have folks hired to take them to visit other Amish groups located too far away to get there with horse and buggy. Their local travel is done mostly with horse and buggy or in some cases horse drawn wagons or carts. You can always tell when the Amish community is gathering together by the fresh horse droppings left on the roadways. Apparently there isn't a shovel in the entire Amish community.

I would have thought they used those slings by the horses rear like they do in all the major cities.
Kind of keeping the goods for the garden...

Well... God bless them all because they keep doin' what they do! I'll respect that.

My wife posted a couple of old pictures of her dad on her facebook thing, what ever you call it. I thought they might be appreciated by some of the AAPK tribe.
Her dad was born in Orange County Florida on August 24, 1923. He was not a "cowboy" but a "cow hunter". Cow hunter was the long ago term for the men that worked the cattle in the wilds of Florida. Grandpa sorta' evolved in the cattle business. He somehow got involved with butchering cattle and hogs and sold his share of the family ranch and started a custom kill packing house with a small store front. Along with the beef and hogs, he processed deer during the season. He has since sold the business but still maintains a few special customers who request him to process their beef or venison. He turned 94 back in August. He has the reputation for complete honesty and is well respected in the agricultural community. His Christian faith has carried him through thick and thin over the years, I'm proud to call him my father-in-law!
The first two pictures are not dated but maybe someone could shed some light on the one with the two cars in the background. He remembers the picture of he and a buddy was taken in Orlando near the old fairgrounds. Notice the other feller apparently has a rifle in his lap. He said that horse with the blaze face was named "Ol' Brown". The color picture was taken a few years back while he was visiting us in the Panhandle.
Treefarmer

He sounds like an Awesome man TF.
I stated earlier that I would like to begin again but 90 years earlier. You father in law, and the men like him are the reason why.
There are too many "snowflakes, and candy arses today for my liking. Everyone has a first world problem to whine about.

By the way, I "think" the car is a '40 ish Lasalle convertible. It's the hubcap that makes me believe this. That was a high dollar car back then.
Maybe your pops will remember if you ask.

Respect!!!

Great pics, TF! I enjoyed that little bit of family history, good, honest people back then. Nowadays, not so much...

Great pictures TF. Be fun to hear the stories he could tell

Great photo's farmer I'd guess '37 ford but that dang horse is right in the way.

Thanks for the kind comments!
Looking at the detail of the pictures leaves a lot of unanswered questions. Like the older car behind the shinny car, what is it? Then I noticed he is holding something in his right hand as he's checking the horses hoof, probably a pocket knife. Wonder what kind? I wonder about the rifle that his buddy has lying on his lap in the other picture and that picture was in the city of Orlando. Times have indeed changed.
He has lots of interesting stories to recount if the time is right, he's not a braggart, just a very humble man full of years of memories. One of my favorite times listening to him was walking through the Fort Christmas Cemetery, looking at the grave markers. He remember so many facts about old cow hunters that had gone on before him. He can usually tell who was related to who and how it all came about.
Some stories are funny and some make you wonder how he survived.
His Great great grandfather came up the St.Johns River and landed at Sand Point, near the present day Titusville-Mims area in 1857. They came from South Carolina. From Sand Point they moved inland to Fort Christmas and then scattered across east central Florida.
His dad was shot in the chest in WWI and the bullet hit the small Bible in his pocket, Grandpa still has that little Bible.
Treefarmer

I also have family that dates back in Florida.
The McIinnon's from Miami before Miami had a name. They were Banana farmers before well, Flaggler showed up.

These were pioneers that founded the southern states. Think about HOW these Floridians survived. Gator meat, and veggies. Cattle from Spaniards, and hogs from I don't know where.
Not too many people today realize that it was Florida that started the civil war. It was Florida that wanted to be an independent region on this continent.
How many knife addicts know this history?
WHY was A. Lincoln shot?

Green Backs... Look this up. It had nothing to do w/ slavery. Green Backs were A Lincolns creation, and it took away from England's (Rothschild) tax on American dollars.

The only reason I bring this up is because of MEN like TF's Pop (in law) we are here today. Those were MEN!@
Those were the people that made America what it is.

TF>>> MUCH RESPECT SIR! Next time you see your pops... Hug him for me, and he'll know why. RESPECT!!! He deserves it.

Real or fake...

REAL!!! From CASSINI

I agree, 36 or 37 on the convertible, regardless of make.

The other car probably dates 28 to 32 or so.

My great, great grandfather left Massachusetts in the 1830's and went to Florida to fight the Seminole Indians with Andrew Jackson.

He married a Canadian woman at Fort Micanopy (Mick-ah-know-pee) and they eventually settled in Fernandina.

He was customs collector and master of lights for the U.S until Florida seceded from The Union and then did the same duties as a Confederate officer, major.

He operated a general store and grocery business in Fernandina and the three story brick building he built for that is still there.

Three of our grandsons with their pumpkins

jlw257 wrote:Three of our grandsons with their pumpkins

Larry did pa-paw do the carving on those Jacks?
Great picture!

My neighbor's flags.

Larry, that's a healthy looking pumpkin crew ya got goin' there.

Garry, you lucky duck. You got yourself a mighty fine neighbor. Tell him I sent along a big old hearty Semper Fi.

gsmith7158 wrote:

jlw257 wrote:Three of our grandsons with their pumpkins

Larry did pa-paw do the carving on those Jacks?
Great picture!

Greg my Son use his Medical skills to carve them. I would have cut myself if I tried


Thanks JerryD