Re: The All Scout Knives Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 11:15 pm
Thank you Charlie
Here's my latest scout knife.........
Here's my latest scout knife.........
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Thanks for the information .Me thinks this ulster U.S.A. Scout knife may be one of the camillus Contract knifes ? Did the contract knifes have a blade etch ?orvet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:11 am Nice knives Phil & a great set up for some info I got recently from Tom Williams.
Phil did me the favor of sending me a nice pic of one of his for the following article.
If you look eBay for old Boy Scout knives you'll find one of the most readily available brands, at this point in time, are those bearing the Ulster name. If you do a search of Ulster knives on eBay you will find the most readily available pattern is the Scout Knife.
I have often wondered why the Scout knife was so common since it is generally accepted that by the 1970s the Ulster tang stamp is no longer used by Imperial Schrade. Recently I found the answer, not from researching Schrade but some new information I received from Tom Williams who was the Company Historian for Camillus Cutlery Company.
Below you'll find a copy of two S-cards from Camillus. The S-card was a tool Camillus used in their plant. It was a card 8 ½” x 5 ½”, half the size of a sheet of notebook paper that gave the factory workers detailed information on the construction and materials of a particular knife. This included the blade patterns, die numbers, blade steel, blade size, blade grind, shield, nail nicks blade finish, handle material, liners & liner material, and a whole host of other information including the tang stamp to be used on the knife and the company that ordered that knife.
The picture below is photocopy of the fronts of two S-cards for Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC). The first card has a sample date of January 3, 1984 and the second card has a sample date of August 6, 1985. The backs of these cards are typically blank with the exception of hand written notations. These notations often include the quantity and date of when the orders are filled.
These cards are the key to why there are so many Ulster Scout knives on eBay. Like many things in life, they are not always what they seem on the surface. Camillus was known as the "knife makers knife maker." It was quite common in the cutlery industry for one company to manufacture knives or certain patterns of knives for other companies. Camillus was one of the biggest providers of certain knife patterns, especially working knife patterns, to other knife making companies. The camper pattern, commonly called a Scout knife, was one such pattern. Camillus provided this type of knives to the US military before, during and after World War II. They also made these knives or a number of companies besides their own Camillus and Camco brands.
The more I research the history of knife companies, the more I see how much they are contacted. This bit of information on the production of this one pattern shows glimpses of the connection between not only Ulster and Camillus but Imperial and Schrade as well. It's a long and interesting story of how those companies came together under the ownership of one man. But it's a long story that will have to wait for another time.
One bit of information I would add is that there were some numbers & dates written on the back of one of these S-cards. The info was cut off by the edge of the photocopy so I can't read them all. They were hand written and some are illegible but here is the info ac best as I can read it:
11,200 -P.O. 9253 - 11/83, (First Time) The first 2 numbers are hard to read. It could be 4,200 or 11,200
0,000 - P.O. - 9341 - 6/84 -there is one or more numbers cut off at the edge of the paper. This means that there were at least 10,000 knives in this one P.O. (purchase order)
3,000 Pcs to cover shortage - 4/85
168 - 6/14/85
611 - 8/16/85
665 - 9/20/85
These 3,000 pieces seem to refer to another order of 4/85 which is not listed on the S-card.
These numbers give us a clue to why there is such a large quantity of these Scout knives currently available on ebay. I have no doubt that there were other orders that were not listed on the back of the S-card.
I hope this info is interesting and helpful to Scout knife collectors.
Dale
I believe that knives stamped Ulster U.S.A. are from the Imperial Knife Associated Companies. The shield is the "Round Tenderfoot" which was also used by Imperial and Camillus. The official etch is correct. Circa 1983-1988.
Great group Mike
Nice clean example
Thanks!
sweet pickup Mike, your like a pig rooting up truffles.
Usually, J.O'.Ridgegrass wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 6:39 pm That one is really special.![]()
Here are 4 UTICA, "featherlight" aluminum framed GSA's and a Brownie. The nice part of Girl Scout/Brownie knives is they are usually well kept and not used as prybars or thrown at trees.J.O'.