Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[RobesonsRme.com]

That Beretta is nice, Phil.

Even has a cup for smokeless tobacco. Sweet.

Charlie Noyes

[espn77]

It has a trigger guard safety.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Very nice! Why were you cravin' the 20 gauge? Shoulder gettin' sore?

It's a sweet qual gun.

Ahh - I understand. When I a was a teen I did quite a bit of dove hunting with an old 20 gauge.

[peanut740]

Been wanting one of these for many years and finally pulled the trigger awhile back at a show.Springfield Armory M1A with a walnut stock.l had been looking at several AR10's but decided to stay old school.Haven't taken it out to shoot yet,on the days I could it has been too cold.Maybe later today.

[garddogg56]

Peanut...that's nice

[treefarmer]

Peanut740,
That is nice! Seems like I used to tote something that looked a lot like that. It belonged to my Uncle Sam, it had a place for a selector switch I even remember it's serial number, 2047015, Sir!
Treefarmer

[zp4ja]

Very nice Roger. Nice old military rifle.

Congratulations on that one for sure.

Jerry

[carrmillus]

.....that really looks familiar!!!!!!........... ................

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Are you planning to use it with the iron sights, or put modern optics on it?

[espn77]

Cool gun Roger. Interested to hear how she shoots.

[jerryd6818]

Roger! Oh my God! I swoon!

I want one but I'm conflicted. I don't have a proper place to shoot it (anything under 200 yards is almost like point blank range) so it would just sit in the gun cabinet so what's the point. But oh my God how I want one.

[carrmillus]

...first rifle I was issued at ft. Jackson in 1958 was a springfield '03, it was worn out completely, but before we got to go to the rifle range, they replaced it with a brand new M1!!...always wondered how it would shoot, but didn't get the chance to try it!!............ ..............

[peanut740]

I took it out this late afternoon and ran a few rounds thru it.Went in the back yard and shot down a ditch line about 100 yards or so.Not much of a target,but was starting to rain.Operates great and need to adjust the sights proper.
She will stay with iron sights.

[FRJ]

Very nice, Roger. Good looking stock.

I shot one on a few occasions at a range back in the late 60s. I sure loved shooting it.

[RobesonsRme.com]

That's not a gun, that's a weapon.

"This is my weapon! This is my gun! This is for killing! This is for fun, Sergeant!"

Charlie

[treefarmer]

Y'all excuse me for actin' like a know it all, but as Roger said in his post, this rifle is a Springfield Armory M1A. It shoots the NATO round 7.62mmX51 same as the 308 Winchester round. It is a civilian M-14, maybe it's just me but seems like no one seems to recognize the difference. The M14 replaced the M1 Garand and a bunch of other weapons but was short lived as the M16 came on the scene.
Treefarmer

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Oh, there is a big difference between the M1A and the M14 that is related to that little switch inside the red square...

[jerryd6818]

Ooh Rah Charlie. If a Drill Instructor heard you call it a 'gun' in boot camp, you would have been doing bends and thrusts until the world changed the direction of it's rotation.

[Quick Steel]

Basic at Ft. Polk introduced me to the wonderful world of the M-14. During AIT at Ft. Ord, we got to spend time with the M-14 in full auto mode. Besides shooting at the ranges out on the sand dunes, we got to make a night assault up a hill while firing the preferred 3 round bursts.
Those were the final days of the M-14 [except for special situations]. I liked the M-16 that followed, but I loved the M-14.

[jerryd6818]

Oh, there is a big difference between the M1A and the M14 that is related to that little switch inside the red square...

m14_fire_selector.jpg

Yes but not everyone who carried an M-14 had a selector switch on their rifle. I don't recall anyone in any of the LAAM Batteries I served in having a selector switch on their weapon. Can't speak for the Grunts. Those 0300s were in a whole different world. I got to fire one on full automatic one time during my entire enlistment. What a kick in the butt that was.

[RobesonsRme.com]

I might be forgiven for not recognizing this was a civilian weapon.

I trained in Basic with an M-1 Garand and the M-14 in Infantry AIT at Ft. Ord. When I got to SF in January, 1968, it was, of course, the M-16.

So, it's been fifty years since I held or even saw an M-14.

Good thing we have people smarter and more knowledgeable than I on AAPK. Else, misinformation would be rampant.

Charlie Noyes

[Quick Steel]

In AIT we learned that the M-14s would not generally be issued with an active selector switch. The Army considered them too difficult for most of the troops to control. I thought the instruction we were given was effective. We were told to fire at the base of our target and simply walk the rounds up and into the target. This was facilitated by a special grip hanging below the barrel. In effect the M14A1 became a light weight BAR [Browning Automatic Rifle]. But this all became a non-issue with the rapid distribution of the M-16.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Yes, I'm aware a lot of M14s were never configured with all the parts to go full auto - but all M14s could be pretty easily changed by simply putting in about $25 worth of parts. The M1A would not accept those drop-in parts.

[jerryd6818]

Yes, I'm aware a lot of M14s were never configured with all the parts to go full auto - but all M14s could be pretty easily changed by simply putting in about $25 worth of parts. The M1A would not accept those drop-in parts.

It seems to stick in my mind (and there's an anomaly if I ever saw one) that that is the reason the M-14s didn't make it out on to the civilian market like the M-1s did.

[Old Hunter]

There are a few legal GI issue M14's (without the selector) that were sold to the civilian market by the DCM (also a decent number of M-2 Carbines). Once ATF (now BATFE) issued the ruling, "once a machine gun, always a machine gun" that ended the DCM sales. Those already sold are grandfathered, but were allowed to be papered under NFA-34, any not papered are illegal now - the last amnesty was during the Reagan Administration. Those few GI M-14's on the market used to command about 6K - that was ten years ago, not sure what they are worth now. OH