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Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:38 pm
by zp4ja
Here is old TESTED 6299 Torpedo Jack. It has very unusual but authentic green bone. This knife is near mint inside and out. I have inspected this knife a dozen times and it never saw a pocket or cut anything. Not sure where it has been all this time (we have had it for about 20 years) to remain in this condition, but it has not been cleaned or buffed. Have to thin the herd somewhere so this one will likely be going. Maybe not though.

Jerry

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:11 am
by FRJ
Thank you, Jerry.
I want to get a 99 some day. A decent one that I can pack.
The one you have there is a real beauty.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:21 am
by zp4ja
Thanks Joe! I had an EDC 1974' 3299-1/2 until last Sunday Father's Day. I really liked that knife. Total tank.

My son and I exchanged Happy Fathers Day greeting via phone and I thought that was that until he shows up with a break apart sheathed bone saw as a gift. I felt like a idiot as I had no gift so I had that knife in my pocket and gifted to him. He was pretty damn happy with it. He loves knives.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:04 am
by Ivoryman
zp4ja wrote:Here is old TESTED 6299 Torpedo Jack. It has very unusual but authentic green bone. This knife is near mint inside and out. I have inspected this knife a dozen times and it never saw a pocket or cut anything. Not sure where it has been all this time (we have had it for about 20 years) to remain in this condition, but it has not been cleaned or buffed. Have to thin the herd somewhere so this one will likely be going. Maybe not though.

Jerry
What a great Torpedo, sweet scales and spear, when you thin that one out of the heard let me know I'll take it!

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:22 am
by zp4ja
Thanks Ivoryman! Will let you know. Might even PM you today if you are seriously interested. besides a few examples, all my knives Pre- XX era and post 1980' are up for sale and there are quite a few. I love the older CASE knives also but I have to thin somewhere and my heart is in XX era thru 1980' for the most part.

So sticking to 99 patterns, here are 2 more XX era examples.

CASE XX 5299-1/2 with the "A" blade. Some of the sickest XX stag I have.
CASE XX 6299 Rough Black.

Been a little while since I handled them but as I recall both are near mint uncleaned. Besides some blue magic on a cloth, personally never cleaned or buffed a knife.

Regards, Jerry

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:47 am
by FRJ
Beautiful knives, as usual, Jerry.

What does "A" blade mean?

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:54 am
by junebug
DANG 8) .....REAL NICE SHOWIN' , JERRY ::tu::

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:10 am
by zp4ja
Thanks Joe and Josh!

The "A" blade is a different shape of clip used on the 99-1/2 Clip Version Rail Splitter as they called them. They come with a normal blade also. I think it is in Sarge's book and the '"A" blade has more of a distinctive swoop down to the point of the clip. I think this may be the only CASE model to have the 2 different types but I could be wrong. But the "A" blade is slightly more uncommon based on book price I assume.

I will have to look later to tell you more as I just spent hours weed eating as I always do prior to July 4th and the weather is about 100 plus here and I need a cold beer and a nap. We have neighbors around here with fireworks show grade rockets (there are several stores here in NV that you can buy all kinds of crazy stuff) and no common sense to add to the mix when it is pretty dry.

Jerry

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:03 am
by btrwtr
That A blade is awesome Jerry!

Wayne

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:24 am
by zp4ja
btrwtr wrote:That A blade is awesome Jerry!

Wayne
Thanks my friend. Keep me honest about my A blade explanation please. If I am incorrect, please correct me. Been wrong before that is for certain.

Regards, Jerry

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:57 pm
by gino
Jerry PM sent

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:49 am
by Ivoryman
1940-64 Half Stockman Red Bone. Sort of plumb purple red. Very thin and sleek, barely notice you're carrying it. 3 3/8 closed, 5 3/4 open, everything is right and tight. Amazing for all these years. Maybe my new favorite knife.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:57 pm
by Ivoryman
'76 Case Whaler, what a sweet oldie, large but not heavy or cumbersome, great snap and lock up, good balance, great steel, easy sharpen, holds it, shaves hair and easily kept that way.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:50 am
by Dradian
Not sure if I did this right the first time, so here's my second attempt. This is my favorite case knife that I've found so far. It's marked Case Bradford Pa on both blades but not on the pliers. I don't know a lot about old Case knives, but this is the only one I've ever seen with pliers.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:46 am
by treefarmer
Welcome to AAPK, Dradian!
That's a new one for me, but that don't mean much. If there is "PA." stamped under the BRADFORD, that could be a 1905-1920 tang stamp according to the W.R. Case College.
Hope it is a real Case! ::tu::
Somebody that specializes in Case should be along to give a proper answer.
Treefarmer

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:51 am
by Dradian
Thanks. I really enjoy this site. It does have the PA under the Case Bradford. I'm excited to know more about it.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:20 am
by peanut740
The master blade doesn't appear to fit the knife correctly.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:41 am
by Dradian
When I have the blades open the main blade is the only one where the spring doesn't seem to fully reseat itself to be flush with the body by a very small amount. Both blades have the same stamp. I don't know how I would be able to tell if someone had done any work to it. It all seems to have the same age wear to me, but I'm no expert. I'm open to any suggestions on what to look for and appreciate any knowledge gained.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:42 am
by RalphAlsip
Dradian, welcome to AAPK! I believe the pattern number for your knife is 63045. It would be good if you can do some research on the pattern. The 45 pattern is also known as a "cattle" knife. I have several cattle knives in my collection, but I don't have the scout variation or the variation with pliers. I found a Case pliers example once, but somebody else wanted it more ($$$) than I did :) .

I added a picture of a WR Case & Sons stamp for 63045 for you to review. In this era, Case contracted to Valley Forge Cutlery to manufacture thie 63045. Please take note that the stamp says "Bradford, Penna" instead of Bradford, PA. This is the clue that indicates a contract knife. I have seen a few of the Valley Forge branded / stamped pliers knives. I have only seen 2 of the Case stamped versions prior to your knife. The Case examples sell for more than the Valley Forge examples.

If you happen to have the Goins reference book, it describes this stamping and the pliers knife.

The example I am familiar with had "PAT APLD FOR" stamped on the fixed pliers handle. Also the secondary blade was a flat screwdriver instead of a knife blade.

I am not confident your knife is wrong because there are lots variations with old knives, but there is enough different to make it questionable, in my opinion. If knifeaholic comes along and contradicts me, please disregard my comments :)

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:40 am
by Dradian
Thanks for the information. I don't happen to have that book, but I will research that knife pattern. It may have to wait until tomorrow being that my eyes are about popped out of my head after spending the last four hours looking through the amazing knife collections here on AAPK.

I did check the knife for any more markings. The pliers don't seem to have, or have had, any stamping. Only the two blades. The spring that doesn't seat well on the main blade does have a slight angle where they join, where the others have a smooth almost roundness to them.

The shield on the side of the knife has a very thin and faded inner etching that would have followed around the entire shape of the shield, but is so worn that it is only noticeable on the very bottom edge. I can't tell if it was ever inscribed case on that part.

Even if it turns out to be a fake, it still has a very appealing character to me. (Although I hope it's not) Thanks again, and I look forward to learning more.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:19 am
by Dradian
Here are a few better pictures. I can't seem to get them any clearer. Hopefully they will help.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:57 pm
by RalphAlsip
For reference, here is a link to one that sold recently on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/W-R-CASE-SONS-T ... 7675.l2557

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:06 pm
by peanut740
It really doesn't matter what the master blade is stamped if it has been changed.We need to see a picture of the master blade opened where it meets the backspring.

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:15 pm
by philco
peanut740 wrote:It really doesn't matter what the master blade is stamped if it has been changed.We need to see a picture of the master blade opened where it meets the backspring.
Can you tell us what you're seeing that makes you think the master blade is not the original?

I noticed in the ebay link above that the knife shown there had a blunted tip on the main blade whereas the knife under discussion here has a more traditional spear blade. Is that the norm ?

Re: VINTAGE CASE FOLDING KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:16 pm
by stockman
RalphAlsip wrote:For reference, here is a link to one that sold recently on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/W-R-CASE-SONS-T ... 7675.l2557
Do these usually have a nail nick, or a long pull?

Harold