The All Scout Knives Thread

[espn77]

I appreciate that information Mike. Thanks

[whitebandana]

First time post: Writing from Northamptonshire England, I recently found an old Girl Guides knife in a local antiques shop and having an interest in knives and a small collection I couldn't resist the £2.50 price tag. I recognized the style of knife as one mass-produced for the Girl Guide movement - similar to the old military style of knife. When I tried to do research on the knife I could find no other knife which just had the word "GUIDES" on the scales,the all say "GUIDE KNIFE", "GIRL GUIDE or "GIRL GUIDES". See here: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gi ... &form=QBIR

Cleaning up the blade I noticed that the knife was made by none other than the famous William Rodgers company of Sheffield, a company with an impeccable and historic pedigree. Well, there's a lot of information about the company, their products and their history but I can find no mention of them making a 'Guides' knife at all.

I know this forum is predominantly US-based but I'd appreciate any help at all with this. Hopefully the pictures will help. Thanks.

[ScoutKnives]

Gator show find .
challenge metal handle scout knife near mint in the original box

[bestgear]

WOW - I never knew what the box looked like, thanks for sharing that Mike!

[Old Folder]

guide knife closed.jpg
guide knife blade.jpg

First time post: Writing from Northamptonshire England, I recently found an old Girl Guides knife in a local antiques shop and having an interest in knives and a small collection I couldn't resist the £2.50 price tag. I recognized the style of knife as one mass-produced for the Girl Guide movement - similar to the old military style of knife. When I tried to do research on the knife I could find no other knife which just had the word "GUIDES" on the scales,the all say "GUIDE KNIFE", "GIRL GUIDE or "GIRL GUIDES". See here: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gi ... &form=QBIR

Cleaning up the blade I noticed that the knife was made by none other than the famous William Rodgers company of Sheffield, a company with an impeccable and historic pedigree. Well, there's a lot of information about the company, their products and their history but I can find no mention of them making a 'Guides' knife at all.

I know this forum is predominantly US-based but I'd appreciate any help at all with this. Hopefully the pictures will help. Thanks.

Welcome to AAPK "whitebandana" We have many European collectors here, welcome aboard.

There was a small discussion on "Girl Guide" knife back in Dec. 2010. You can view that on the below forum.
viewtopic.php?t=21063

I imagine the only reason you have not received any information is because your "Guides" knife is a very rare knife and not too many of them exist here in America. Normally the members here at AAPK will chime in right away to assist and help.
There are many Boy & Girl Scout knife collectors here but most only collect American made knives pertaining to Scout Knives.
I searched all my resources and came up with nothing to compare.
I did however learn a lot about English Scouting.
Your cost of £2.50 ($3.50) was a great deal. I would say it is worth at least £30.00 - £32.00 ($45.00) perhaps more.
Would like to see pictures of your other knives when you get the opportunity.

By the way:
We used to be close neighbors, I was stationed at RAF Chelveston near Rushden in 1968 /1969 and then transferred to RAF Alconbury in 1969 /1970.

[BWT]

Gator show find .
challenge metal handle scout knife near mint in the original box

Very nice Mike, excellent find!!!

[ronfish]

Gator show find .
challenge metal handle scout knife near mint in the original box

Sweet!!

[Mumbleypeg]

Gator show find .
challenge metal handle scout knife near mint in the original box

Wow! Nice find. Never seen a box for one before.

Ken

[ScoutKnives]

Thanks Tom , Bill , Ron and Ken , definitely and awesome unusual find .

[Miller Bro's]

Nice find!

Can I see the knife with the blades open?

Thanks.

[ScoutKnives]

Another Gator show find ,,,, a Remington r963 2 blade official Girl Scout knife sleeve board non easy opener . Still has a decent blade etch to

[ScoutKnives]

Sure can , nothing on file but I’ll take one next time I have it out of the safe .

Nice find!

Can I see the knife with the blades open?

Thanks.

[peanut740]

A couple of dandy knives SK. I would like to see the blades on the Challenge also.

[espn77]

That's awsome. I never knew that knife came with that shield.

[peanut740]

That's awsome. I never knew that knife came with that shield.

Another one to keep your eye out for Keith.

[espn77]

That's awsome. I never knew that knife came with that shield.

Another one to keep your eye out for Keith.

I was under the impression the list in time would get smaller but it continues to get bigger.

[philco]

guide knife closed.jpg
guide knife blade.jpg

First time post: Writing from Northamptonshire England, I recently found an old Girl Guides knife in a local antiques shop and having an interest in knives and a small collection I couldn't resist the £2.50 price tag. I recognized the style of knife as one mass-produced for the Girl Guide movement - similar to the old military style of knife. When I tried to do research on the knife I could find no other knife which just had the word "GUIDES" on the scales,the all say "GUIDE KNIFE", "GIRL GUIDE or "GIRL GUIDES". See here: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gi ... &form=QBIR

Cleaning up the blade I noticed that the knife was made by none other than the famous William Rodgers company of Sheffield, a company with an impeccable and historic pedigree. Well, there's a lot of information about the company, their products and their history but I can find no mention of them making a 'Guides' knife at all.

I know this forum is predominantly US-based but I'd appreciate any help at all with this. Hopefully the pictures will help. Thanks.

Hi Whitebandana. Welcome to AAPK. I have looked through my very limited library of scout knife books (2) and neither one of them have any information about Girl Guides knives. I suspect others here are lacking information as well. I just didn't want you to think we were ignoring you. I wish you the best in your search for information and would welcome knowing what you find out about your knife.

[RobesonsRme.com]

Welcome to AAPK, WhiteBandana.

There is a very active Brit over at BladeForums.com that uses the ID Jack Black, I believe. He has several Girl Guide knives and seems quite knowledgeable re' them.

Check out the OLD KNIVES thread in the Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades Forum there.

Charlie Noyes

[ScoutKnives]

Here’s yet another Gator knife show find Remington
RS4235 junior RWB with rare shield .

[espn77]

Mike!!!!!!! You continue to show all kinds of knives I didn't know even exist. Very nice. Thanks for showing them.

[Old Folder]

Boy Scouts are celebrating the 108th anniversary.

Scouting was started after William Dickson Boyce, an American newspaperman and entrepreneur, was lost on a foggy street in London when an unknown Scout came to his aid, guiding him back to his destination.
The boy refused Boyce's tip, explaining he was doing his duty as a Boy Scout.
Afterwards Boyce met with Robert Baden-Powell, who was the head of the Boy Scouts Association at that time and Feb.8, following his London experience, founded The Boy Scouts of America.
Boy Scouts mission was to promote through organization and cooperation with other agencies, the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others, to train them in scout craft and to teach them patriotism, courage and self-reliance.
Scouting, which is in 185 countries, has expanded beyond its outdoor adventures to introduce young people to promising careers in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM)

The below picture was taken in Richmond Indiana in the summer of 1958 at our Church.
Boy Scouts Troop #13.
I am the third young boy, middle row from your facing left. I have the white belt on. My older brother (Bob) is the fifth young boy from your left, same row, with his hands crossed in his front.
Bob is two years older than me, better looking, stronger and smarter. But I have more knives and toys then he has.
I am the youngest lad in the photo. Being that I was only 10 years old, I could not be a real Boy Scout until I turned 11. But the troop let me be their "Mascot".
I could not wear a uniform or earn badges but I was a fulltime participant, active member and had no restrictions.
The tall gentleman in uniform on your facing left is Mr. Smith, our Scout Master. Mr. Smith was also a close friend of my parents for many years. He was called "Smitty" but if you were a youngster, you would call him "Mr. Smith" or "Sir"
Everyone looked up to Mr. Smith, not because he was tall, but because he was a Richmond Indiana WWII war hero. From D-Day all the way to Paris. Mr. Smith never spoke of the war but he did teach us many things on life itself.
Sixty years later, I still remember Mr. Smith's big friendly smile and his conversations with us. He taught us Morse Code, tying knots, pocket knife safety, how to start a camp fire. Many character-building activities and ethical decision-making skills. Two day camping trips up to Lake Michigan.
My first assignment of Camp Cooking was to peel the potatoes, I found out later that Mr. Smith advised my parents that there was more potatoes on the peels than the potato alone, so he improvised and we all ate fried-cut potatoes with peels.

Do you have any Boy Scout or any Scout memories and or pictures you would like to share?

[Old Folder]

I found this Camillus Adventurer in a small Burbank Ca. antique shop in 1995. I paid $20.00 for it.
Pristine mint, never carried, used or sharpened. Right hand button blade lock.
White delrin faux stag handles. Leather sheath and lanyard. BSA #1375.

This classic Utica Featherweight Pat. Apl. Girl Scout Knife is in the original box and came in many variants of handle materials. Never carried, used or sharpened. It is dated around c1936 and one of the first Official Girl Scout Knives available to the girls.
Very good condition considering it's over 80 years old.

It appears as if someone paid $1.00 and perhaps a few cents for it a long long time ago? However, I paid more than that but I do not recall how much. I purchased it prior to the internet.

[Old Folder]

Here's a couple more Scout items.
This is a unused yellow ink stamped Official Boy Scout Combination Silicon Carbide Sharpening Stone, #1314. Pre-internet purchase.

Sargent's 1989 edition calls this Schrade a "Uncle Henry" Trapper. 2-7/8" closed. Never carried, sharpened or used. Also purchased prior to the internet.
It is a Schrade Walden Stainless N.Y U.S.A. #778. BSA #1060.

Difficult to observe, but the master blade is acid etched:
Razor Blade Stainless * Made In USA and has a picture of a razor blade between the wording.

[Quick Steel]

Dan, What a wonderful collection of Scout knives and material. May the Scouts thrive and avoid the wackier aspects of our times.

[BWT]

Dan those are some great knives, the Camillus is beautiful, thanks for sharing!!!