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Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:23 am
by OSCAR
FRJ:
The idea of going to a more obtuse angle to finish off the edge is, to create a micro bevel. This way, you have more steel behind the edge and it (in theory) holds the edge longer. On my working knives, I started using a convex edge to accomplish the same thing.
Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:31 am
by FRJ
Thank you Oscar.
How do you create your convex edge?
Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:01 pm
by Daryl
FRJ wrote:Thank you Oscar.
How do you create your convex edge?
I'm hoping Oscar will answer your question about how he does it.
In the meantime, the two main ways I know of to do it are with a low-speed belt sharpener, like the WorkSharp, or by stropping with a flexible strop. The curvature of the belt or strop does the trick.
The Wicked Edge sharpener's web site shows a third, more tedious method: create and polish a primary (shallower) angle, then create and polish a steeper secondary angle. Then, you pick an angle halfway in between to blend the two and then finish up with a strop to smooth it all out. For me, this one would definitely require an angled guide system!
https://support.wickededgeusa.com/porta ... onvex-edge
Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:52 pm
by FRJ
Thank you, Daryl.
All are viable sharpening techniques. Limited, but viable.

Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:13 pm
by Daryl
OSCAR wrote:Daryl. You’re very welcome. I believe I’d call it quits and use whatever method works for you. The money you save not buying more stones can be spent on knives.
A quick update: The problem was the "cheap" $60 stone set.
I just unearthed my old Arkansas tri-hone and, using the exact same technique, put a razor-sharp edge on that same knife in about ten minutes with hardly any effort.
Anybody want a set of Knife Planet water stones? (Just kidding -- the set I have is not even worth the shipping cost!)
Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:18 am
by OSCAR
Daryl, Good Japanese water stones work great but they are costly and they tend to wear down quickly . They need to be maintained. I have used them in the past but not anymore. Too much trouble. Oscar
Re: Japaneese Water Stone
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:54 pm
by Daryl
OSCAR wrote:Daryl, Good Japanese water stones work great but they are costly and they tend to wear down quickly . They need to be maintained. I have used them in the past but not anymore. Too much trouble. Oscar
I think I've learned my lesson. I'm back to good old, affordable Arkansas stones, along with my Lansky angled rod system for quick touch-ups.