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Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:55 am
by gsmith7158
Ripster wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:45 am
gsmith7158 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:10 am The blade configuration of the first gen 72 was definitely used by Camillus long before the 72 was introduced in 1946. Here's one I have with the Sword Brand on the mark side and a 4 line stamp on the pile side. The only difference is the regular nail nick on the master.
Dang Greg you amaze me with your knowledge and the knives you keep showing us newbies . with both those tang stamps it’s definitely before 1946 . So with those stamps it could go back as far as the 1920 s ?
Thanks for posting that old knife. Another one to find for the Sword brand pile . ::handshake::
Jp it's been a lot of fun trying to unravel this Camillus story over the years. Still not sure we know anything for certain. :D

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm
by doglegg
gsmith7158 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:10 am The blade configuration of the first gen 72 was definitely used by Camillus long before the 72 was introduced in 1946. Here's one I have with the Sword Brand on the mark side and a 4 line stamp on the pile side. The only difference is the regular nail nick on the master.
Hey Greg, glad to see your Sword Brand 72 as I have one too and was afraid it was a put together knife. Good to see another one. Thanks for showing it. Here is mine.
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Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
gsmith7158 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:10 am The.....
That is a BEAUTY, Greg! ::tu:: ::tu::

doglegg wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm Hey.....
Floyd, that is a GREAT L👀KING CAMILLUS pocket knife!! ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pm
by gsmith7158
doglegg wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm
gsmith7158 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:10 am The blade configuration of the first gen 72 was definitely used by Camillus long before the 72 was introduced in 1946. Here's one I have with the Sword Brand on the mark side and a 4 line stamp on the pile side. The only difference is the regular nail nick on the master.
Hey Greg, glad to see your Sword Brand 72 as I have one too and was afraid it was a put together knife. Good to see another one. Thanks for showing it. Here is mine. DSCN6904.JPGDSCN6905.JPGDSCN6906.JPGDSCN6908.JPGDSCN6909.JPG
Wow doglegg that one is in great shape! I wish we knew a little more about that handle material and the date they started using it.

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:53 pm
by Colonel26
gsmith7158 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:10 am The blade configuration of the first gen 72 was definitely used by Camillus long before the 72 was introduced in 1946. Here's one I have with the Sword Brand on the mark side and a 4 line stamp on the pile side. The only difference is the regular nail nick on the master.
doglegg wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm [quote=gsmith7158 post_id=969714 time=<a href="tel:1638922208">1638922208</a> user_id=20341]
The blade configuration of the first gen 72 was definitely used by Camillus long before the 72 was introduced in 1946. Here's one I have with the Sword Brand on the mark side and a 4 line stamp on the pile side. The only difference is the regular nail nick on the master.
Hey Greg, glad to see your Sword Brand 72 as I have one too and was afraid it was a put together knife. Good to see another one. Thanks for showing it. Here is mine.
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Those are both fantastic!!!

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:18 pm
by doglegg
Thanks Skip and Wade. ::handshake::

Greg, Jerry referred to the handles as looking like the "brittle milk plastic" of the 30's. He also mentioned that the lack of handle pins is something of an enigma. That they were discontinued in 1976 but this knife appears to be well before that. It is a head scratcher for sure. Yours is the only other one I have seen. Another Camillus mystery. Thanks. ::handshake::

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:07 am
by Ripster
doglegg wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 pm
gsmith7158 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:10 am The blade configuration of the first gen 72 was definitely used by Camillus long before the 72 was introduced in 1946. Here's one I have with the Sword Brand on the mark side and a 4 line stamp on the pile side. The only difference is the regular nail nick on the master.
Hey Greg, glad to see your Sword Brand 72 as I have one too and was afraid it was a put together knife. Good to see another one. Thanks for showing it. Here is mine. DSCN6904.JPGDSCN6905.JPGDSCN6906.JPGDSCN6908.JPGDSCN6909.JPG
Floyd ,you been holding out my friend . That’s a very nice piece in really good shape. Thanks for sharing. ::tu:: ::tu::
Glad this worked out so you know now that yours is a good piece.

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:17 am
by Ripster
doglegg wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:18 pm Thanks Skip and Wade. ::handshake::

Greg, Jerry referred to the handles as looking like the "brittle milk plastic" of the 30's. He also mentioned that the lack of handle pins is something of an enigma. That they were discontinued in 1976 but this knife appears to be well before that. It is a head scratcher for sure. Yours is the only other one I have seen. Another Camillus mystery. Thanks. ::handshake::
Floyd . Look inside the blade well . Is there any plastic tabs coming thru liners if not look at liners and see if there are 4 little prong punctures in the liners themselves. Those are tabs for holding the handles . Dale wrote about this a few years back and was just reading it the other day . So in a short Camillus had 2 other methods of attaching handles besides pins .And believe he said it went back to the 1930 period or? Hope that helps you Sir.

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:05 am
by New_Windsor_NY
My contribution.....
Long pull match strike, milled liners, long line & Sword Brand tang stamps.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:31 pm
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:05 am My contribution.....
Long pull match strike, milled liners, long line & Sword Brand tang stamps.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Very interesting Skip . Long line with Sword brand ?? Leave it to Camillus ,unique piece .
Thanks for posting that one. ::handshake::

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:59 pm
by doglegg
Ripster wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:17 am
doglegg wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:18 pm Thanks Skip and Wade. ::handshake::

Greg, Jerry referred to the handles as looking like the "brittle milk plastic" of the 30's. He also mentioned that the lack of handle pins is something of an enigma. That they were discontinued in 1976 but this knife appears to be well before that. It is a head scratcher for sure. Yours is the only other one I have seen. Another Camillus mystery. Thanks. ::handshake::
Floyd . Look inside the blade well . Is there any plastic tabs coming thru liners if not look at liners and see if there are 4 little prong punctures in the liners themselves. Those are tabs for holding the handles . Dale wrote about this a few years back and was just reading it the other day . So in a short Camillus had 2 other methods of attaching handles besides pins .And believe he said it went back to the 1930 period or? Hope that helps you Sir.
Thanks for the info JP. Next time I have it out I will check those details out. ::handshake::

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:00 pm
by doglegg
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:05 am My contribution.....
Long pull match strike, milled liners, long line & Sword Brand tang stamps.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Love it Skip. Will be on my look for list. Thanks. ::handshake::

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:19 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:31 pm Very.....
Thank you, JP. 🍻
You're welcome, JP.
::handshake::

doglegg wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:00 pm Love.....
Thank you, Floyd. 🍻
You're welcome, Floyd.
::handshake::

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:44 am
by gsmith7158
Skip I believe those showed up in the late 60's and early 70's somewhat in conjunction with the Deluxe line. The ones marked Sword Brand also had the crossed swords etch on the main blade.

Re: ...camillus "72"....RARE???............

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:17 am
by New_Windsor_NY
gsmith7158 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:44 am Skip.....
Thank you, Greg. 🍻