Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[treefarmer]

Had to look that thing up MM. Then I remembered reading about the Keltec that shoots 30 times, that thing must be a lot of fun to shoot. Seems it would be a mighty fine way to greet those folks that don't understand the rules. 30 rounds from a 22 magnum pistol is just plain intriguing!
Treefarmer

[Old Hunter]

I don't buy many firearms anymore, but did grab this one yesterday during a road trip. Mauser Mountain Rifle G33/40, made in 1940 at BRNO in Czechoslovakia by the Germans during WW-II - not rare, but an unusual piece (has neat foot shield on opposite side of the rifle) - quick and crappy photo. OH

[jerryd6818]

Okay, I give up. What the hey is a "foot shield"?

[Colonel26]

Very nice OH! I bet that'll be lots of fun. What caliber is it?

I've always heard any BRNO made gun spoken of highly.

[carrmillus]

Okay, I give up. What the hey is a "foot shield"?

........that was going to be my next question, jerry???........never heard of that!!!...... .............

[Old Hunter]

The rifle is chambered for the standard German cartridge of WW-I and WW-II (what we call the 8mm Mauser), the European designation is 7.9x57 mm and 8x57mm JS (US ammo is also labeled 8x57 Mauser).

In this picture of the buttstock you can see what is also called a Sideplate. I don't know the correct nomenclature. The G33/40 was made for German Mountain troops in WW-II. The side plate (I've also heard toe plate and foot shield) is an piece of metal used to protect the buttstock from the boot and rocks when the rifle was used to push the Soldier up a steep slope. I'm still researching these rifles, among what little I have found so far is this:

"The rough terrain and extreme conditions of mountain regions requires specially-trained soldiers. In the German military of World War II, these units were called Gebirgsjäger (or “mountain hunter”). These specialist troops were not as heavily armed as regular infantry, but their cold-weather training and expertise in difficult terrain made them invaluable in many battles fought during the war.

All told, there were 19 mountain divisions established by Germany during World War II. They served in operations in Poland, the Soviet Union, the Balkans, North Africa, and France. They were typically equipped with the short-barreled Mauser K98 Carbine rifle, called the Gewehr 33/40, MP40 submachine guns, and MG34 or MG42 light machine guns. Along with the Fallschirmjäger, these mountain troops were considered to be the most elite infantry units in the Wehrmacht."

[Old Hunter]

My favorite deer hunting rifle, a Winchester Model 88 chambered for the 308 WIN and made in 1963. I've hunted with this one a lot this season. OH

[steve99f]

A classic rig OH, I like a lever gun myself. Also a 308 Win.

[mikek]

Here's my model 88, also in 308. It was given to me by my uncle and originally was my grandfather's who had great taste in deer rifle's

[garddogg56]

MAN I love them levers you guys have sum great ones I tote a Savage 99 in the fall in a .300 savage and a new Henry .22

[mikek]

Garddogg, I see you also tote some nice knives in the woods. I once owned a Henry .22 but traded it for a T/C Hawkin .50 in flint. My only other lever is a mod. 94 in 30-30 (most of the people here in PA. have one)
Muzzleloader here starts the day after Christmas and I still have a tag. The most wonderful time of year. Mike

[jerryd6818]

I used to have a .308, also given to me by my Uncle.

[mikek]

Jerry, Uncle Sammy also gave me a rifle, a .556, I would have rather carried yours.

[garddogg56]

Thanx Mike Them .30-.30's are popular in Maine also ,we usually only see a deer within 50 yard, not many long shots inless were hunting pole-lines

[Jdub]

Picked this up last night! Seems to be a nice overall gun,have a 10 round Chip McCormick
That fits it pretty well.

[jerryd6818]

Jerry, Uncle Sammy also gave me a rifle, a .556, I would have rather carried yours.

Yeah, McNamara's Rodent Rifle. Arming our troops with a .22 rifle is unconscionable.

[ken98k]

The rifle is chambered for the standard German cartridge of WW-I and WW-II (what we call the 8mm Mauser), the European designation is 7.9x57 mm and 8x57mm JS (US ammo is also labeled 8x57 Mauser).

In this picture of the buttstock you can see what is also called a Sideplate. I don't know the correct nomenclature. The G33/40 was made for German Mountain troops in WW-II. The side plate (I've also heard toe plate and foot shield) is an piece of metal used to protect the buttstock from the boot and rocks when the rifle was used to push the Soldier up a steep slope. I'm still researching these rifles, among what little I have found so far is this:

"The rough terrain and extreme conditions of mountain regions requires specially-trained soldiers. In the German military of World War II, these units were called Gebirgsjäger (or “mountain hunter”). These specialist troops were not as heavily armed as regular infantry, but their cold-weather training and expertise in difficult terrain made them invaluable in many battles fought during the war.

All told, there were 19 mountain divisions established by Germany during World War II. They served in operations in Poland, the Soviet Union, the Balkans, North Africa, and France. They were typically equipped with the short-barreled Mauser K98 Carbine rifle, called the Gewehr 33/40, MP40 submachine guns, and MG34 or MG42 light machine guns. Along with the Fallschirmjäger, these mountain troops were considered to be the most elite infantry units in the Wehrmacht."

OH. The 33/40 is much sot after by custom rifle builders due to its light weight action. The action is similar in size to the 93 - 96 Mauser actions but has all the improvement of the 98's. In addition to its already small size, the action has lightening cuts that further reduce the weight. I believe it is The Lightest of all the mauser 98 actions. Good Find!

[ken98k]

Jerry, Uncle Sammy also gave me a rifle, a .556, I would have rather carried yours.

Yeah, McNamara's Rodent Rifle. Arming our troops with a .22 rifle is unconscionable.

50 years later we're still using them.

[Colonel26]

Thanx Mike Them .30-.30's are popular in Maine also we usually only see a deer within 50 yard, not much long shots inless were hunting pole-lines

I like levers too! How about a Marlin 336SC from '57-'58? It's in my favorite woods caliber .35 Remington. 35 caliber, 200gr bullet at about 2100 fps. At the 30-50 yards I shoot at here in my little woods it makes nice BIG holes that go all the way through and leave lots of blood on the ground but doesn't ruin meat.

Ain't no flies on the 30-30 either. I've got a 50's Marlin in that caliber too!

OH, I love that 88 of yours. I plan on eventually adding an 88 and a 99 to the stable at some point.

[garddogg56]

Very nice Colonel I hate to see Marlin sold out to Remington

[Colonel26]

Very nice Colonel I hate to see Marlin sold out to Remington

Thanks dogg!

I hate it too. It just ain't the same.

[mikek]

I always wanted a Marlin 1895 cowboy in 45/70, had my hands on one about 8 years ago in a gun shop and didn't pull the trigger. Big mistake.

[Just Plain Dave]

That Desert Eagle 1911 looks to have everything you need and very little to nothing you don't.
I pretty much HAVE to have dovetail safety and bobbed hammer or I get bit pretty bad.
Of course I don't have a 1911 to bite me anymore. Just a 22 revolver.

[Old Hunter]

Wow, Savage 99's, Winchester 88's, M14, M1911, Henry 22 levergun - you fellows own the good stuff and it is just pouring out tonight! Jerry, wouldn't you love to own an issue M-14? I sure would. There were a small number of them converted to semi-auto fire and sold by the DCM in the 1960's before the ATF stopped the Army from selling them. Those are the only legal ones out there for civilians to own; if you can find one they will cost over 6K!

Ken, thanks for the good information on my Mauser rifle. I have found very little so far about the M98 Mountain Rifle. This one has a sparkling bore (did the Germans use non-corrosive in WW-II?) a good chamber; it headspaced fine and the brass doesn't expand much - about normal compared to my other rifle chambers. I got a fairly decent 4" group at 100 yards with the German issue open sights when I tested it before trading for it (my issue partly - I can't hardly see irons!) After deer season I will work up some German MILSPEC loads for it and go back to the range and see what it will really do. I traded a Japanese Browning Auto-5 in mint condition and a Korea War print I bought at the Army War College years ago (that I was never going to frame) for the M98 - I'm pleased with my trade.

I used to own one of the Marlin Cowboy LTD-IV rifles (it was the year 2000 limited release M1895) and had the 24" Ballard octagon barrel - it was a very nicely built rifle with straight grip higher grade walnut and fun to shoot with cowboy level loads (low power loads) but kicked badly with modern loads. I sold it and bought the standard Marlin M1895 with pistol grip stock and 22" Ballard barrel before Marlin sold out to Remington - glad I did. The rifle will shoot 1 MOA with good loads - blows my mind every time I shoot it - outperforms several of my bolt actions. This is the only digital photo of my M1895 that I have - need to take a full size photo next time I have it out.

[FRJ]

I sure like looking at all these guns. Jerry, what is it about that uncle? He gave me one of those too, but I had to give it back. It sure was fun to shoot. (I just shot paper with mine, thankfully)
I don't hunt but I would love to have one of those early 99s any way.
Thanks for the pictures, guys. Keep 'em coming. And good luck hunting!