Old and Obscure Brands

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doglegg wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:37 pm Cool.....
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Here are a few obscure brands for your viewing pleasure
1) Wardlow Cutlery Co. Walden, NY Pearl Congress
2)Eclipse Cutlery Co. Barehead Jack
3) Townley Metal Hardware Co. Kansas City Ebony Cattle
4)Jackson Fremont,O Barehead Easy Open
5) A.F. Shapleigh Hardware Stag Washington Jack
6) Romo New York Elephant Toe
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Awesome knives ::tu::
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Miller Bro's wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:03 am Awesome knives ::tu::
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:shock:
Quite the eclectic collection !
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Clark23 wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:49 pm Here are a few obscure brands for your viewing pleasure
1) Wardlow Cutlery Co. Walden, NY Pearl Congress
2)Eclipse Cutlery Co. Barehead Jack
3) Townley Metal Hardware Co. Kansas City Ebony Cattle
4)Jackson Fremont,O Barehead Easy Open
5) A.F. Shapleigh Hardware Stag Washington Jack
6) Romo New York Elephant Toe

Wow! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Here’s one you don’t see many of.
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Nice one Mike, I really like the bolsters 8) ::tu::
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Thanks, yes this one is special👍
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Mike ::tu::
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Very recently, my visit to the post office produced this lobster or gentlemans', pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my general, pocket knife accumulation. It is an ORANGE CUTLERY COMPANY, one blade, one tool (a file with a blade tip), two tang stamps, 3" closed, lobster or gentlemans', pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "ORANGE (over) CUT. CO. (over) WALDEN, N.Y." The tool front/back tang stamp (worn) said, "ORANGE (over) CUT. CO. (over) WALDEN, N.Y." The main blade does have a SOFT half stop. The main blade does have a GOOD opening snap. The main blade does have a GOOD closing snap. The tool does have a SOFT half stop. The tool does have an OK opening snap. The tool does have a GOOD closing snap. Both handle sides have cracks in the scales. These cracks do NOT bother me. As a precaution against possible outgassing, I have isolated this pocket knife. Overall, this pocket knife is in FAIR condition. This pocket knife did NOT require any cleaning at all. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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For more examples of ORANGE CUTLERY COMPANY pocket knives,
and newspaper articles regarding the ORANGE CUTLERY COMPANY,
click on this link:
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=11797

***** NOTE ***** NOTE ***** NOTE ***** NOTE *****
AAPK member lt632ret (R.I.P.), wrote a short article regarding ORANGE CUTLERY COMPANY and included pictures of
three tang stamps and four different ORANGE CUTLERY COMPANY pocket knives. The article and the pictures
can be found in his book, "Knives of the Hudson Valley - 160 Years of American Cutlery History"
The whole book is a VERY INTERESTING and VERY INFORMATIVE read.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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The Tool Front/Back (Worn) Tang Stamp.
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Miller Bro's wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:00 am ::tu::.....
Thank you, Dimitri. 🍻
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Just posted this one in the scout knife thread, but it's a good obscure brand too. since it was handy ::tu::
Droescher's SRD brand 1891-1924

S.R. Droescher from Solingen, moved to New York.

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Very recently, my trip to the post office produced this pocket knife. This is my most recent example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the most recent example to join my general, "foreign born", pocket knife accumulation. It is a W.M ELLIOT & Cᴏ̲, one blade, one tool (a corkscrew), one tang stamp, 4 3/4" closed, lever lock, "Deer Foot", pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "W.M ELLIOT & Cᴏ̲ (over) AUSTRIA" This is my third "Deer Foot", pattern or style of pocket knife. My other two, "Deer Foot" pocket knives, were both previously posted, under this topic or thread. The main blade does NOT have a half stop. The main blade does have a GOOD opening snap. The main blade does have a GOOD closing snap. The corkscrew opens and closes, with NO issues. This pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. This pocket knife did NOT need cleaning. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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Hello,
I have an old German brand that I can't find much info about. The tang stamp says 'Ramon Germany'? 🤔
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JBlade wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:39 pm Hello.....
This information, NOT mine, may or may not help.
It is in regards to a post regarding a butterfly knife.
In the next to last line, on the bottom, "RAMON" is
mentioned.
Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:23 pm Here's what I found out about the butterfly knife with the "PATENT" stamp. This knife was produced by Böntgen & Sabin in Solingen, a German manufacturer active from 1867 to 1983.

Böntgen & Sabin. Solingen in 1900-1932. Brand names: 'Autocrat' (1899), 'Autofix' (1910/11), 'Bellring' (1909/10), 'Bonanza' (1907), 'Bonsa' (1902), 'Carrara' (1895), 'Clansman' (1902), 'Cosmopolit' (1895), 'Ezyshave' (1898), 'Flying Dutchman' (1897), 'Flying Scotchman' (1902), 'Football' and/or 'Fussball' (1907), 'Hector' (1908), 'Hindenburg' (1920), 'Keystone' (1923), 'Klosscut' (1909), 'Loreley' (1895), 'Midget' (1908), 'Mois' (1909), 'Nagaf (1909), 'Rhein' (1895), 'Sabina' (1907), 'Sarina' (1905), 'SSS' (1907), 'Zando' (1902).

BOENTGEN & SABIN SOLINGEN GERMANY c 1867-1983 Located in the Bonsa-Werk, Solingen, Germany. The company made knives using many different trademarks. One trademark used was "Bonsa." They went out of business about 1983.

Böntgen & Sabin AG, Stahlwarenfabrik, Solingen.
The Böntgen & Sabin AG Stahlwarenfabrik was originally founded by August Böntgen and Louis Sabin around 1870 and registered in 1876 (Carter, 2001; Goins & Goins, 1998).  In 1922 the Böntgen & Sabin AG Stahlwarenfabrik was advertising their trade name BONSA.  Very little information is available on August Böntgen.  Information on Louis Sabin, on the other hand, is plentiful.  Among the most interesting things is that Louis was a member of the German Reichstag and also represented the Union of Solingen Manufacturers’ Association.  The BONSA (Böntgen & Sabin) Company was behind the production of many Leverlocks.  BONSA Leverlocks can be found with stamps like: ‘BONSA’, ‘B. Svoboda’, ‘Helmut Hartenau’, ‘F. A. Bower Imp. Co.’, ‘G. C. Co.’, ‘IMCO’, ‘ROMO’, ‘Puma’, ‘RAMON’, ‘Solingen Cutlery’, ‘Stainless Import’, and ‘Schoepfer N.Y.-City’ to mention a few.
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CLEAR-CUT, Geo. Worthington, USA, Cleveland, OH, 1829-1949
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Just found this new treasure in junk box on seller's table. Goins mentions the makers name, but noother details. Would like to know any other history, Thanks
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Apologies to all. I didn't give anybody a fair break in my post -- I should have provided the maker's name. It is Brit-nife - St Louis.
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Is this Obscure enough, Walden Co-Operative made 1870-74 Stag Jack ::ds::
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Clark23 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:01 am Is this Obscure enough, Walden Co-Operative made 1870-74 Stag Jack ::ds::
Fantastic old knife! Love the handles! Love the blades!
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Clark23 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:01 am Is this Obscure enough, Walden Co-Operative made 1870-74 Stag Jack ::ds::
Fantastic ol' HOK !!
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Clark23 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:01 am Is this Obscure enough, Walden Co-Operative made 1870-74 Stag Jack ::ds::
Wow!
What a beautiful old knife! ::tu::
In my limited knowledge I have never seen that knife stamp.
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doglegg wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:19 am
Clark23 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 1:01 am Is this Obscure enough, Walden Co-Operative made 1870-74 Stag Jack ::ds::
Fantastic old knife! Love the handles! Love the blades!
Thank you doglegg ::handshake::
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