camillus #72

[orvet]

Exact-O-Mundo. You took the words right out of my mouth Dale. Someone sure had a wild sense of humor. One thing for sure, it's one crazy piece of steel.

There is no doubt in my mind that unscrupulous people do counterfeit knives, but they are not inexpensive knives, as there is no financial motive to do so. In fact there is every financial incentive NOT to counterfeit inexpensive knives, it just ends up costing the counterfeiter money!

I think most so called "questionable" knives are usually just a one-off of some sort from the factory that can be explained by someone who understands the knife making methods of the factory. Someone who has actually worked in a cutlery, like Eric or Tom Williams, understands how they were made, or someone like Steve Pfeiffer who has studied the history of the factories and studied thousands of knives. These people have in insight into the reasons why & how a knife can be a little different than most of the knives in a given factory run.

[knifetime]

I would say orvet is right.Other thin the blades bin switched the shield and derlien are the same as the Camillus,Remington remakes of about 1996.The tang stamp,has me stumped.
PS I had posted the wrong pic before "pic of 72" I posted the right pic now.

[jerryd6818]

The newest addition to my Harem came yesterday. Stamped 1999, it's a Harley-Davidson tang stamp, pattern HD-21. It's unfinished and I'm not really sure who made it. The plain pull on the main blade would lean in the direction of Schrade but the handle pins are too far from the bolsters for Schrade so it looks more like Camillus. And then you have the secondary blades. The secondary clip has a Camillus profile but it's serrated. My first time for that little feature. The handles are black Delrin and the football shield is stamped H-D with wings. For the time being, I'm going with Camillus because about that time they made the #5 which was a #72 with brass bolsters, wood handles and a plain pull on the main blade.

Thanks for the heads up Shearer!!

[tjmurphy]

Here's a little Camillus 14, 1946-1950, that came in yesterday. Nice jigged Rogers bone handles with three very stable tight cracks. Did a little cleaning on it when I got it and it turned out pretty nice. Blades are pitted but OK. Should make a good carry knife.

Before cleaning:

After cleaning:

Aw man, I put this in the wrong place. Hope you 72 guys will forgive me

[tjmurphy]

Wow Jerry, you keep digging those things out of the wood-work. Way to go, a very nice, unusual knife

[jerryd6818]

That 14 is going to make a great carry knife. It looks to be a very pocket friendly size.

[Shearer]

A top knife jerry.You must know someone to find these knives.

[jerryd6818]

A top knife Jerry.You must know someone to find these knives.

There. I fixed it. I had intended to acknowledge your assistance but my mind is old and feeble.

[Shearer]

Jerry I was waiting for you to show your knife.As it is one of kind at the moment I like it unfinished.Grant

[orvet]

Very Nice Jerry!

Definitely not made by Schrade, not with pins through the bolsters!

That checkered pattern on those pins looks like those I have seen on other unfinished Camillus knives.
I am 90% sure it is a Camillus knife.

If Tom Williams sees this maybe he will remember them, or perhaps if he can find production info or the S-card on this knife.

[jerryd6818]

Thanks to everyone for all the compliments on the HD knife. Time for another unusual 72. This one showed up in yesterday's mail. What an odd fellow.

I can't find this one in any of the catalogs I have access to.

• It has those funky faux stag Delrin handles.
• The tang stamp is etched instead of being stamped.
• The main blade is pattern stamped on the back and is for a Stanley SL6. (The main on the other one like this that was up on eBay, had a '60-'76 tang stamp and 72 stamped on the back)
• The pull on the main blade is matchstrike but very shallow and difficult to get a grip on with your thumbnail.
• The secondary blades are shorter than all the other 72s and clones I have.
• The secondary blades are swapped compared to any of the post bone handle 72s and their clones.
• The small clip sits so low they cut a divot out of the frame so you can get at the nail nick, yet the coping blade sits so high the tip almost peeks.
• The shield is the round one they used in the late '90s and into the 2000s.
• When the main blade closes, it cracks like a .22 rifle

Comments and opinions welcome.

[ken6]

Well, thats a pretty neat knife Jerry.

[carrmillus]

Thanks to everyone for all the compliments on the HD knife. Time for another unusual 72. This one showed up in yesterday's mail. What an odd fellow.

I can't find this one in any of the catalogs I have access to.

• It has those funky faux stag Delrin handles.
• The tang stamp is etched instead of being stamped.
• The main blade is pattern stamped on the back and is for a Stanley SL6. (The main on the other one like this that was up on eBay, had a '60-'76 tang stamp and 72 stamped on the back)
• The pull on the main blade is matchstrike but very shallow and difficult to get a grip on with your thumbnail.
• The secondary blades are shorter than all the other 72s and clones I have.
• The secondary blades are swapped compared to any of the post bone handle 72s and their clones.
• The small clip sits so low they cut a divot out of the frame so you can get at the nail nick, yet the coping blade sits so high the tip almost peeks.
• The shield is the round one they used in the late '90s and into the 2000s.
• When the main blade closes, it cracks like a .22 rifle

Comments and opinions welcome.

...jerry,this was one of the first camillus whittlers i ever bought.......delrin on yours looks a little darker than mine, may be the light...........never saw another one like it until your's showed up...thought for awhile i had a 1 of 1!!!!!...... .....................

[jerryd6818]

John -- Looks like there's at least three. Now I wish I had bought the other one off eBay but he irratated me with his $9.00 shipping so I didn't bid. There was only one bidder and it went for $19 plus that $9 shipping.

[tjmurphy]

There are many times that a seller's shipping costs have run me away from an auction. You've got to include the shipping when you calculate the price you're willing to pay for an item. To me, $6 is reasonable for most shipping, but would rather see it less than that.

[jerryd6818]

I always factor in the shipping when I bid. If I'm willing to spend X amount on a knife, I bid X minus what ever the shipping is. It's just my opinion but if you want $28 for an item, list the damn thing at $28, not $19 + $9 shipping. For some reason, I feel like I'm being gouged when they do it that way. I would probably have bid up to about $35 for that knife if he had listed it for $29 with free shipping.

What I consider exorbitant shipping is a hurdle I have a tough time getting over. Turns me completely off most of the time and pisses me off every time, even if I decide to bid anyway and win the auction.

[Shearer]

Jerry I know where the other one went.The Camillus stamp is the last one before they closed.The postage to Australia was listed at see $38.10.I told them it was to high and they dropped to $17. I Then purchase 2 knives from them so It worked out $8.50 per knife.If I am interested in a knife and the postage is to high I send a message to say I would like to bid on their knife but the postage is to high.The worst answer you can get is no they will not change the postage.

[jerryd6818]

Grant, I'm glad to find out you got it. At least it was someone I "know". You're accumulating quite a pile. Once all these show up, how many of the Carpenter's & Whittlers will you have?

[Shearer]

Jerry I have about 16.The Stanley should turn up soon.I only get mail 3 days a week .

[jerryd6818]

You're making good steam then.

[ken6]

My first Camillus #72 - got it off the bay. I sure like it.

[jerryd6818]

You're done for now boot. You're toast.

It looks to be in good condition. Congratulations. Are you going to carry it?

[ken6]

Jerry - yes, got it in my pocket right now. It is in real good shape.

[orvet]

You're done for now boot. You're toast.

Ken, you are now an official addict!
Soon you will have a 2 Camillus a day habit like Jerry, Ted, me and a lot of others here!







Edit: Oops, I forgot John!

[jerryd6818]

Dale's right. Those 72s are the crack of the knife world. It only takes one...