Old and Obscure Brands

This forum is dedicated to the discussion and display of old knives. The rich history of all the many companies that made them through the early years will be found here as well as many fine examples of the cutlers art. Share pictures of your old knives and your knowledge here!
Post Reply
BWT
Posts: 1902
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:59 pm

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by BWT »

That’s a good question RR, something I always wondered but never ask. Hopefully someone will know the answer. I thought I might as well post this knife here even though I posted it over in the question’s thread. Hadn’t deleted the photos yet. The maker is Carl Rader with smooth white bone. Thanks for looking and any thoughts on it or comments.
Attachments
7247D562-463F-4A62-80B0-C2AA2E11449A.jpeg
95A102F3-7FC2-4499-BF4F-E26E6E0BA089.jpeg
4EB379F6-DE41-432E-867C-EB25A519114D.jpeg
B103DB1E-6502-4051-8738-AEB42DA31281.jpeg
Bill
User avatar
galvanic1882
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 3532
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:39 am
Location: Payson AZ

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by galvanic1882 »

Don’t see many of these around Pape-Thiebes and of course I love the ink. Indian trail bone totally makes the knife. I usually don’t go after German knives but could not pass this one up.
Attachments
E13E24DF-7DF3-4377-86B2-69537BD0CB37.jpeg
F0E3B60E-29D2-4922-878B-AAF9899E8262.jpeg
6DB1E573-3BCC-48C4-AABB-76D665F56C10.jpeg
868950B3-EC67-424B-895A-2F96115BB42F.jpeg
F58D1A74-92E5-45DF-ACDB-C25F0639A194.jpeg
1C7868BF-79D0-4702-934D-DF2920E64B91.jpeg
msteele6
Posts: 2046
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:29 pm
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by msteele6 »

On the Rader knife I can tell you that the one blade is a rase blade used to scratch (erase) ink off of paper, I don't think that those blades lasted far into the 20th Century which would put the knife production in the early part of that century. JMO
User avatar
btrwtr
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 5478
Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 11:53 am

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by btrwtr »

Beautiful Dr. Mike!
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.

Wayne

Please visit My AAPK store https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/catalog/btrwtr
User avatar
Miller Bro's
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 13631
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
Location: Earth

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Miller Bro's »

::tu::
AAPK Janitor
369
rustyoldknife
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 796
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:07 pm
Location: SE Pennsylvania

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by rustyoldknife »

galvanic1882 wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:48 pm
A knife like that is a good reason to start collecting German knives. It's a Beauty ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
David
BWT
Posts: 1902
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:59 pm

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by BWT »

Great find Mike ::tu:: ::tu:: Very nice!!
Bill
ricknra
Posts: 26
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:26 pm
Location: connecticut
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by ricknra »

how the hell do you post a picture on here?
Ivoryman
Posts: 9551
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:20 am
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Ivoryman »

JohnR wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:50 pm Picked up this nice ebony jack, just under 3 3/4". Tang stamped Cornwall Knife Works Conn. Goins has a date range of 1890 to 1910 and little else. Bar shield and using Works in the name does make me think it is that old. Works was used by Sheffield companies and a few early American companies such as Russell Green River Works.

Waukonda wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:28 pm Wasn't sure where to post this, I suppose it qualifies as Old and Obscure.

3 1/2"

Knocking it out of the park the both of you. Wow, those are gorgeous pieces. Congrats on those scores.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid." -No Name, High Plains Drifter
doglegg
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 23918
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:35 am
Location: Grand Prairie, Texas

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by doglegg »

galvanic1882 wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:48 pm Don’t see many of these around Pape-Thiebes and of course I love the ink. Indian trail bone totally makes the knife. I usually don’t go after German knives but could not pass this one up.
What a wonderful knife!. Handles ..... exceptional!!! ::nod:: ::nod::
JohnR
Bronze Tier
Bronze Tier
Posts: 2118
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:43 am
Location: Maryland

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by JohnR »

Picked up a fairly hard to find tang stamp this week, Curley Cutlery Co New York, Goin's has 1860 to 1921. Sweet little 3" Senator 4 blade, all blades tang stamped and the file has a Curley's Pat stamp. Amazing Pick bone for such a small knife and there are nail cut outs for all 4 blades. Appears to be pretty nice little molested condition.
Attachments
IMG_5006.jpeg
IMG_5009.jpeg
IMG_5001.jpeg
IMG_4998.jpeg
IMG_5005.jpeg
IMG_5000.jpeg
IMG_4996.jpeg
User avatar
Miller Bro's
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 13631
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
Location: Earth

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Miller Bro's »

Nice looking knife ::tu::
AAPK Janitor
369
User avatar
Miller Bro's
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 13631
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
Location: Earth

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Miller Bro's »

Here is an obscure one.
Attachments
4-6.jpg
AAPK Janitor
369
woodwalker
Posts: 6110
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:52 am

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by woodwalker »

JohnR wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:48 pm Picked up a fairly hard to find tang stamp this week, Curley Cutlery Co New York, Goin's has 1860 to 1921. Sweet little 3" Senator 4 blade, all blades tang stamped and the file has a Curley's Pat stamp. Amazing Pick bone for such a small knife and there are nail cut outs for all 4 blades. Appears to be pretty nice little molested condition.
Very nice little survivor with great bone! Congratts!! :)
User avatar
New_Windsor_NY
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 14031
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:50 pm
Location: I'm On The Far Right On The Left Coast In Commiefornia

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by New_Windsor_NY »

This arrived very recently in a group of pocket knives that I bought. This particular pocket knife was NOT the target of my purchase. It is a STURDY, one blade, one tool, 2 5/16" closed (not including the bail), one tang stamp (double stamped), pocket knife. It is in pretty good shape. It needed a little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Attachments
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
image.jpeg
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales

Skip
Waukonda
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 6349
Joined: Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:35 am

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Waukonda »

Very nice recent posts ::tu:: ::tu::
Ike
User avatar
FRJ
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 17133
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 1:43 pm
Location: Ct.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by FRJ »

Truly, very nice indeed.
Beautiful knives guys. ::tu::
Joe
Xring2512
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:39 am

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Xring2512 »

Has anyone seen one of these? I am new to this forum and this is my first post, so please bear with me. This knife resembles an old rifle and has Peters Brothers Cutlery stamped on a short 1" blade. It also has a folding "gun barrel" which appears to be a twist out mechanical pencil with a small clamping device to hold the lead. I found it quite interesting and was wondering if anyone has any info or could roughly date this knife or ballpark it's value. Again, this is my first post so I may need to be redirected to the proper area. Thanks for looking!
20211220_205254.jpg
Attachments
20211220_205316.jpg
20211220_205351.jpg
20211220_205516.jpg
User avatar
Ridgegrass
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 8124
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Location: Ocean City, MD
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Ridgegrass »

Peters Bros. (gebruder) Cutlery, Solingen-Merscheid, Germany c.1880 (ref: Levine, 3rd. edition, p.62.
Cute knife. Good luck, J.O'.
User avatar
Ridgegrass
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 8124
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Location: Ocean City, MD
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Ridgegrass »

Value ???? If someone collected "novelty" knives and/or mechanical pencils, who knows? Again, good luck. J.O'.
User avatar
TPK
Posts: 11018
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 pm
Location: Bayern, Germany
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by TPK »

Xring2512 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:10 am Has anyone seen one of these? I am new to this forum and this is my first post, so please bear with me. This knife resembles an old rifle and has Peters Brothers Cutlery stamped on a short 1" blade. It also has a folding "gun barrel" which appears to be a twist out mechanical pencil with a small clamping device to hold the lead. I found it quite interesting and was wondering if anyone has any info or could roughly date this knife or ballpark it's value. Again, this is my first post so I may need to be redirected to the proper area. Thanks for looking!20211220_205254.jpg
:shock: Very cool knife! ::nod:: ::super_happy::

Welcome to the AAPK! ::handshake:: We're glad you came! ::nod:: ::super_happy::
TOM - KGFG - (Knife-Guy-From-Germany)

I believe..., every knife is a soul, looking for a soulmate. :wink:

Weebit-Nano https://www.weebit-nano.com/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weebit_Nano

US - ARMY - COMBAT - ENGINEERS - 1990 - 1993 - God Bless Our Troops!
User avatar
TPK
Posts: 11018
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 pm
Location: Bayern, Germany
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by TPK »

galvanic1882 wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:48 pm Don’t see many of these around Pape-Thiebes and of course I love the ink. Indian trail bone totally makes the knife. I usually don’t go after German knives but could not pass this one up.
Great find! ::nod:: ::handshake:: Beautiful knife! ::super_happy::
TOM - KGFG - (Knife-Guy-From-Germany)

I believe..., every knife is a soul, looking for a soulmate. :wink:

Weebit-Nano https://www.weebit-nano.com/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weebit_Nano

US - ARMY - COMBAT - ENGINEERS - 1990 - 1993 - God Bless Our Troops!
User avatar
TPK
Posts: 11018
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 pm
Location: Bayern, Germany
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by TPK »

Nice looking finds everyone! ::nod:: ::tu::
TOM - KGFG - (Knife-Guy-From-Germany)

I believe..., every knife is a soul, looking for a soulmate. :wink:

Weebit-Nano https://www.weebit-nano.com/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weebit_Nano

US - ARMY - COMBAT - ENGINEERS - 1990 - 1993 - God Bless Our Troops!
User avatar
galvanic1882
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 3532
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:39 am
Location: Payson AZ

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by galvanic1882 »

Love that rifle knife, pretty cool.

Just got this one and it's a mystery. The front tang is stamped GOOD over LUCK. The back tang has a crest shield with a Horseshoe that has an anchor in the middle of it. Utica Cutlery used a trade mark UTK Good Luck with a horseshoe but this knife does not have a country of origin and Utica started after the tariffs. Great little hawkbill, smaller size 3 3/4" closed. Not sure you can see the marks in the picture but if you enlarge them, you should be able to.

Has anyone else seen this mark? Mike
Attachments
IMG_2776.jpg
IMG_2774.jpg
IMG_2777.jpg
IMG_2775.jpg
User avatar
Ridgegrass
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 8124
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Location: Ocean City, MD
Contact:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Post by Ridgegrass »

Nice old "Billhook" as the Brit's call them. Never seen that mark. Thanks, J.O.
Post Reply

Return to “Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days”