What kind of knife is this?

jcol36 · Post by **jcol36** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:30 am

Hi all, I just started collecting knifes and i came across this one that has no brand name on it. It's in pretty bad shape. Could someone tell me what kind of knife it is? The only markings it has on it are "spiral punch", and made in the USA. Any info would be great. thanks in advance.[/img]

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:41 am

Can NOT help much but IMO.
Tang stamped MADELIN USA, and the other blade is PUNCH.

That punch looks like a leather punch to make holes in a belt ??

I also think the owner took good care of her and USED her often, but he over sharpened her many times. Perhaps the steel was to weak for what he did.

O by the way WELCOME to AAPK. Nice to have a New Collector here.
Read some old post lots of real good info here.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:51 am

Welcome to AAPK

While I don't know the answer to your question, I am sure there will be someone along soon with the answer. I have seen other knives with the spiral punch on them, but I can't remember who patented it or who produced knives with the spiral punch.

Dale

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:46 am

My guess would be Camillus or schrade.

singin46 · Post by **singin46** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:53 am

Good to have you, you will love this site.
Looks like a Schrade to me but not sure

Singin46

SFC ADP · Post by **SFC ADP** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:07 am

I have a punch on a Baker Hamilton Pacific knife, that is pretty much the same, minus the stamp on it.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:05 pm

the shield looks cammilus

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:15 pm

Here is a thread from the Camillus forum. Our own forumite Charlie asks the original similar question, and knifeaholic and CAMCO (Tom) give us some interesting insight.....

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... iral+Punch

Just as information.

Bill

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:16 pm

I really like that spiral punch...

9ball · Post by **9ball** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:55 pm

I read someplace (maybe in the front of Goin's last book) that Camillus held the patent on that type of punch at one time.
Anyway, I see it on more of their older made knives than any.

NYKC put a spiral punch on some of its early Official Scout knives (BS1, IIRC), but it was stamped with the pattern number only and was a little different in design.

I have a knife like that made by Schrade, but it has jigged bone handles. I have it in my Counterfeit Collection because I was not sure about it. I will compare and post an image if so.

9ball

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:56 pm

this certainly looks vey similar
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewima ... 53126&sp=1

Gr8Scout · Post by **Gr8Scout** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:15 pm

Sure looks like a Camillus model 64 (old number, not the present 64 which is a canoe). Remember, Camillus has long been known as 'knifemaker to the knifemakers' and it's very plausible that this is a knife Camilllus made for someone else.
Phil

jcol36 · Post by **jcol36** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:44 pm

Thanks for all of the info. I'm still very new to knife collecting, i never new there were so many variations of knives.

ranstoothpck · Post by **ranstoothpck** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:36 am

Yeah I think from what iv'e seen in my book that the old camillus 64 is a strong possibillity. I wouldn't rule out the old winchester though. From what iv'e seen several companies used a variation of that shield. The camillus and the winchester shields look the closest to me. Welcome i'm new too. I luv it here.

jcol36 · Post by **jcol36** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:14 pm

Could anyone guess the value of this? I've been carrying and using this knife. It already looks well used.

Gr8Scout · Post by **Gr8Scout** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:45 pm

The spiral punch was a Camillus thing. I don't know Winchester knives all that well, but I don't think they made one. Here is a scan from some old camillus paperwork. I think the knife is a Camillus contract made item.

Value? Not much, except to guys like us. The pretty cell adds some. I've been looking for some decent 64s to put in an old 1/2 dozen '64' box, and they dont sell high.

Nice to see new people here at the forum, welcome again to all of you.

Phil

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:41 am

keen kutter also used a spiral punch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Knifes-Keen-Kutte ... dZViewItem

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:46 am

In the link I posted earlier in this thread, CAMCO states that Camillus sold Spiral punches to others, and made knives marked as Keen Kutter on contract.

Just as information.

Bill

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:19 am

oops, sorry i did not read well enough bill.

Gr8Scout · Post by **Gr8Scout** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:03 am

Well, the most interesting knives are certainly those with a mystery about them. At least this particular knife brought us a fine new member.

Phil

HickoryNut · Post by **HickoryNut** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:23 am

I have a few old Keen Kutters with that spiral punch.

radicat · Post by **radicat** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:08 pm

Square bolsters. Small handle pins. Hmmmm