Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

[KAW]

Thanks Ike & Lee. I know Northfields are hard to find in general, but I did not realize the hawkbill would be one of their unusual patterns.
Lee, I find your 2 cents more valuable... I guess you can say I consider it inflationary information.

[KAW]

I have one more Ulster Hawkbill... This one is a bit of a mystery to me as well... It has an older Ulster Knife tang stamp... but plastic simulated jig bone handles.

[LongBlade]

My pleasure Ken to just give an opinion to try and help - but Ulster is not my bailiwick - hopefully others can chime in to help with the plastic (or black composition) handled knife in terms of an older stamp - I'm not knowledgable at all on dating Ulsters ...

[cody6268]

I had originally posted this knife three years ago in the Old Rope Knives thread, where it create a debate to whether it is a rope knife of a worn hawkbill. It is an Ulster Knife Co. pattern №1010.


This last Aug, I picked up another 1010 hoping it would finally end the debate once & for all... but it only created more questions for me... When compared side-by-side, both these knives marked as Ulster Knife Co. pattern №1010 have big differences. The more recent acquisition is larger with the blade sitting much prouder. The pins & their arrangement is different. Even the shape of the handles are different. There is so much of a difference between the two that now I'm wondering how could they both be identified an the 1010 pattern?


P.S. My apologies for the blurriness of the last image of the 1010 pattern number stamped on the pile side of each knife.
For those that already seen my similar post in Old Rope Knives thread, I apologize for having to read it again here, but I'm hoping someone here might help get to the bottom of why these two knives with the same pattern number are so different that I didn't get on that thread.

My opinion, just looking at the knife as a casual observer--blade has been reprofiled and kick ground down to create a sort of rope knife, from a knife that, most likely, had the tip broken at one point.

[New_Windsor_NY]

This is a PASTOR ALEMAN (German Shepherd), single blade, hawkbill pruner pocket knife. This knife "brand" is part of the Imperial & Colonial venture in Mexico story/connection. That is NOT dirt on the handles. It's my arch nemesis, the lighting.

[New_Windsor_NY]

This is an Ulery U11, single blade, hawkbill pruner(?) pocket knife. This is the description of this knife that is in Goins. "ULERY NEW YORK USA. This marking was seen on an all-metal knife made on the Allen Cutlery Company patent. It was made by the Napanoch Knife Company about 1917-1919."

If you'd like to read up on the ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY, NEWBURGH, N.Y. (1917-1925), please click here.
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=7445

[galvanic1882]

Just picked up these 2 for a friend. Hatch and a Carrier, first time I've seen these makers in hawks.

[LongBlade]

Nice additions Mike ... Back on page 33 of this thread I posted a Hatch Hawkbill - same style as yours but cocobolo handles ... Only 2nd Hatch Hawkbill I have seen too - nice score ..

[galvanic1882]

Thanks Lee and I will check your post out I missed that one.

[galvanic1882]

Just checked it out very nice!! I'm buying these for a very good friend that collects hawks so these will be out of my hands soon.

[New_Windsor_NY]

My Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives All Together.

The first knife in the second picture is NOT for horticulture or pruning.
The blade is Beryllium Copper, which was also used to make the springs in automatic knives. Beryllium dust is a known carcinogen and causes damage to lungs, liver and kidneys. It's safe in a solid state. Blades of Beryllium Copper and Brass were used in the blasting field as they didn't spark and cause an accidental explosion.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

[peanut740]

Nice group Skip.I have had a couple of the wire Jack pruners that were advertisers etched on both sides.

[New_Windsor_NY]

Nice.....

Thank you Roger.
A few of those, in the first picture, do have advertising on the blades.
The ninth knife down is the easiest to see the "ATLAS BISON" advertising.
One of them says "CORONA" on the blade. The typewriter company perhaps?
If you get a chance, would you please post your wire-jacks here.
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=3137
The more the merrier.

[peanut740]

Skop,I don't have any st the present time.

[bladecollectorr]

Here is an interesting item I had never seen before. It is a flower arranging kit in the shape of a book (book safe) that includes, among other things, an actual book and a Schrade knife. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Flower ... 4362142003

The Schrade 176 "Florist" knife included in the kit seems to be original. The 176 was listed in Schrade's catalogs from 1957 (maybe 1956, catalog not available) until 1965.
https://collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Cat ... W-CATS.pdf
https://collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Cat ... W-CATS.pdf

Vintage Flower Arrangement Book Toolkit: Wiss Shears. Schrade Knife. Dazey Holders. "The Complete Book of Flower Arrangement". Paddle Wire. Green Tape. Leather Gloves.

Unique Item. All the items described below are in a Box that looks like a Book. This kit was probably sold by I. Magnin & Co. Paper tag in box: Front - I. Magnin & Co. Back – 144 110 995 J3. All items fit inside the book/box. Box Dimensions (closed, as would be placed in a bookshelf): 9 ¾” tall, 7 ½” wide, 3 ½” thick. Box Dimensions (open for access to book, tools, and supplies): 9 ¾” tall, 15” wide, 1 ¾” deep. Book is kept securely closed with metal clasp. Complete kit weighs 6.5 pounds.

Items in the box include:
“The Complete Book of Flower Arrangement” by F.F. Rockwell and Esther C. Grayson. 1947 copyright. 1951 edition. Doubleday & The American Garden Guild. Book has never been used. Small tear and crease on slip cover.

Vintage Wiss #607 Hand Pruner Garden Shears. New old stock. Original manufacturer’s preservation grease on blade.

Vintage Wiss #FH4 Flower Shears Stem Snips & Pamphlet. New old stock.

Vintage Schrade Walden Florist Pruning Knife #176. New old stock. Light stain on one handle side (from the strap that holds the knife in place). Please see photos.

Vintage Plastite Green Clay No. 206 in box. New Old Stock.

Vintage Dazey Flower Holder #71 – in original wrapper. 2 1/8” diameter. New Old Stock. Some paint is missing from bottom and wrapper is punctured in places.

Vintage Dazey Flower Holder #72 – in original wrapper. 2 3/4” diameter. New Old Stock. Some paint is missing from bottom and wrapper is punctured in places.

Vintage Dazey Flower Holder #90 – in original wrapper. 1 1/4” x 2 3/4". New Old Stock. Some paint is missing from bottom and wrapper is punctured in places.

Vintage Floral Paddle Wire on Wood Spool. New Old Stock. Spool is 4” x 1”

Vintage Green Floral Tape. New Old Stock. 3” x ½”. Tape is dry and probably not functional, but is part of this unique set.

Vintage Leather Gloves Size 8. New Old Stock.

[New_Windsor_NY]

Here.....

A VERY good looking and UNIQUE cutlery item.

[New_Windsor_NY]

This pocket knife is my latest acquisition and the latest addition to my "Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives" collection. It's a GEO. SCHRADE, single blade, wire handle/frame, hawkbill pruner pocket knife. Although the blade tip appears bent, it isn't. It needed a very minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.

[Waukonda]

Good one, Skip!

[New_Windsor_NY]

Goof.....

Thank you Ike.

[Miller Bro's]

A "new" to my collection old pruner I bought......

[Waukonda]

I like it!

[BWT]

Very nice Dimitri! Can’t beat the ole English stag or the maker

[FRJ]

Nice one, Dimitri.
What a great old knife.

[Miller Bro's]

I like it!

Thanks Ike!

[Miller Bro's]

Very nice Dimitri! Can’t beat the ole English stag or the maker

Hey Bill, I agree the English had the best stag!