Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[Yehuda]

The M1 is a historic weapon that served well in battle, but it’s not for me.

Camillus

I would love to add an M1 Garand to my collection, but the prices are prohibitive for my sensibilities. Milsurp rifles are skyrocketing in price to the point of being ridiculous. As for the Springfield M1, I'm with you. It just doesn't look fun. It's more an M14 clone, which is cool, just not my speed.

[rangerbluedog]

Have you considered the Springfield Armory M1A in 6.5 Creedmore? I don't own one and have not shot one, but am interested to hear from folks that have evaluated it.

https://www.springfield-armory.com/prod ... creedmoor/

Mine's in the original .308, but 6.5 Creed is making a lot of noise in long range competition circles. Next AR-10 I build will most likely be in 6.5.

[Paladin]

Ray that revolver is a beauty. I bet it’s a hoot to shoot.

Thanks Col and Doglegg,, I am really attached to it.

Ray

[Yehuda]

Ray that revolver is a beauty. I bet it’s a hoot to shoot.

Thanks Col and Doglegg,, I am really attached to it.

Ray

Super sweet firearm!

[Colonel26]

I have a question for all you AR aficionados. I’ve shot ARs, but I’ve never owned my own. I’m contemplating my first build and I’ve hit a wall with the debate over 1:7 vs 1:9 twist barrel. Which do you prefer or is it not an issue?

[steve99f]

Colonel:

Don't own an AR but the faster twist will stabilize longer, heavier bullets better than the 1:9.

[zp4ja]

Look at the video in this article. Seems the people whom think they have a voice on gun control, whatever that is, have absolutely zero clue as to what an AR is or guns in general. All they know is what they have been brainwashed with.

If you are not educated on a matter keep your uneducated opinion to yourself. My opinion.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/16/co ... ke-it.html

Jerry

[doglegg]

Look at the video in this article. Seems the people whom think they have a voice on gun control, whatever that is, have absolutely zero clue as to what an AR is or guns in general. All they know is what they have been brainwashed with.

If you are not educated on a matter keep your uneducated opinion to yourself. My opinion.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/16/co ... ke-it.html

Jerry

Very good.

[zp4ja]

Look at the video in this article. Seems the people whom think they have a voice on gun control, whatever that is, have absolutely zero clue as to what an AR is or guns in general. All they know is what they have been brainwashed with.

If you are not educated on a matter keep your uneducated opinion to yourself. My opinion.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/16/co ... ke-it.html

Jerry

Very good.

I looked at that video several more times and I am NOT amazed how many uniformed and uneducated people that are weighing in on this subject. This is not limited of course to the video. I live in a gun toting conservative area and no one thinks twice about carrying or owning guns.
Ask someone on the right or left coast that had never even seen a gun, that says it all. Not everyone of course but the majority for sure. No clue.

My New York aunt thought I was crazy until a scumbag broke into her house. Guy got scared off but she was lucky. Likely still thinks I am crazy but sure got quiet on the subject after that.

[rangerbluedog]

I have a question for all you AR aficionados. I’ve shot ARs, but I’ve never owned my own. I’m contemplating my first build and I’ve hit a wall with the debate over 1:7 vs 1:9 twist barrel. Which do you prefer or is it not an issue?

What Steve said.
1:7 shows its value if you are shooting long range competition shooting with the 75, 77, or 82 grain bullets, the 1:7 is better.
I have ARs with 1:7, 1:8.5, and 1:9 twist and I shoot 55, 62, and 69 grain bullets in all without issue out to 600 yards.
Generally speaking, if you prefer lighter and faster projectiles, they can be pushed marginally faster with the 1:9 twist.

Another thing to consider is the type of rifling. Cut rifling is the traditional way, but AR Performance makes barrels with 5R rifling, which also increases the muzzle velocity a bit over conventional cut rifling.

[jerryd6818]

As for the Springfield M1, I'm with you. It just doesn't look fun. It's more an M14 clone, which is cool, just not my speed.

Because the M1A (M1 is a different rifle) is an M-14 clone. You may know that but for me, your post doesn't indicate that.

And for the individual who had the question about long distance shooting, what do you consider "long distance".

And Blue, what the hades is "5r" rifling?

[Colonel26]

Thanks guys. I was thinking that a 1:9 or a 1:8 would be best for me.

[Unk]

I have a handful of .22s, but the were all inherited. The newest one was made in the 1960s. Some are "family guns" that I don't want to bang around out on the lease, and others aren't that dependable (jam-o-matic).

Anyway, I went to Academy a few weeks ago and bought a Ruger 10/22. Just a plain-jane black one, for $209. They had a 10% off promotion, so it wound up costing me $189. I also picked up one of their BX25 maqazines. I had an old Bushnell 4x32 scope that I stuck on it.

I got to really break it in last weekend at the lease, as we plinked with our .22s most of the day Saturday. I put about 300 rounds through it.

I debated getting the take-down model, but now I am glad I didn't. My buddy had his take-down model out there, and there was a noticeable difference in the accuracy with my rifle. The rifle is so short anyway, the take-down option doesn't save you a whole lot. Not to mention the take-down costs about $150 more.

I am just pleased as punch with my new cheap little rifle.

[rangerbluedog]

Thanks guys. I was thinking that a 1:9 or a 1:8 would be best for me.

Good choice Colonel!

You too Unk. I've had 10-22s over the years, and I've had some of the most enjoyable shooting moments with them.

[rangerbluedog]

...what the hades is "5r" rifling?

Well, JerryD, I'm glad you asked.
Conventional rifling usually has either 4 or 6 grooves, and a cross section of the rifling will show that the walls of the rifling is straight. With four or six grooves, the lands end up being directly opposite one another. 5R rifling has five lands and five grooves, so the lands are directly opposite a groove. The side walls of the 5R rifling is either tapered or radiused, which results in less friction and bullet distortion. Thus the bullets leave the 5R barrel faster than with conventional rifling. I'll attach a sketch later.

[FRJ]

That is very interesting. I know very little about rifling except that it is very important and historically perplexing in its design.
This was a nice little nugget. Thanks Blue.

[Colonel26]

Thanks for explaining that 5R rifling.

[jerryd6818]

Glad to see I'm not the only one that was in the dark about "5r" rifling. Thanks for 'splainin that to me/us Blue.

[RobesonsRme.com]

Several years ago, more than ten, I encountered an individual, a middle aged thin black man, who, within about sixty seconds, convinced me that we had worked together at University Hospital. Before it was all done, I had driven him from one shopping mall to another and given him my pocket change and all the collected change in the car's console, which did not amount to much, but it was all the money I had on me. There were no problems, whatsoever and he seemed genuinely thankful.

However, I later decided I had been scammed, as I myself, had provided all the factual information that "linked" us together in the hospital. He had started the conversation with something like, "Why, is this my old friend?" Everything else he said ended with me supplying the factual data.

I know. I was duped and I was stupid.

I encountered him again several months or maybe a year or more later at a Chick-Fil-A and he tried the same scam. I told him that we both knew perfectly well that we didn't know each other and to take his scam elsewhere or I'd call the police.

I encountered him once more after that and it went pretty much the same way.

Today, Sarah and I were leaving the grocery store as he was entering. He put on that big smile, same as usual, and said, "Is this my friend?" I said "No" and told him to get away from me with his scam.

He walked away and I turned to walk out and met one of the store employees coming in and I said, "Watch that guy, he's a crook".

He heard what I said and came back asking, "What did you say? What did you say?" I told him we both knew perfectly well that he was a crook. At that point, he became irate and threatened to beat my f***ing a**" several times.

I told him to turn around and walk away. Then he put his hand in his rear pocket. Razor or small pistol? I didn't know and still don't. I stepped into his space a bit and told him to take his hand out of his pocket and that it had better be empty. He did and it was. But, he continued to threaten to beat my a**.

A man pushing his cart out of the store heard that and stopped. He runs a martial arts dojo in the neighborhood.

I told the black guy, why don't we just dial 911 and see what the police think about you. He stated he needed to go into the store and get his medicine and he left, but threw one last threat to beat me up as he did so.

The Asian guy said if I wanted to call the police, he would stay as a witness and tell everything he had heard. He said, "You have a case. That man threatened you."

We had meat and milk in the grocery cart and it was ninety degrees. I chose to let it go.

And I was not armed.

Thinking I might need to get a pocket pistol of some sort. My .45 Para Ordnance WartHog does not ride in a pocket very well. I have a nice paddle holster, but I don't want to wear a jacket all the time and I surely do not want to open carry. I have a concealed carry vest. I guess I better start using it and also start going back to the range and train.

Charlie Noyes

[doglegg]

Had a great day at bulls eye match Saturday. Awfully proud of these three targets. 25 yards with my red doted S&W 617. Of course these are the best out of 9 targets so there might be a little cherry picking.

Slow fire

Timed fire

Rapid fire

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Charlie - do you have concealed carry permit? I would not carry unless you have one.

That is what is called a "cold reading" - it is the same thing the "psychics" that claim to communicate to your dead relatives do.

Here is an old interview where Orson Welles explains how it is done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0abuOqDUq7U

[zp4ja]

Several years ago, more than ten, I encountered an individual, a middle aged thin black man, who, within about sixty seconds, convinced me that we had worked together at University Hospital. Before it was all done, I had driven him from one shopping mall to another and given him my pocket change and all the collected change in the car's console, which did not amount to much, but it was all the money I had on me. There were no problems, whatsoever and he seemed genuinely thankful.

However, I later decided I had been scammed, as I myself, had provided all the factual information that "linked" us together in the hospital. He had started the conversation with something like, "Why, is this my old friend?" Everything else he said ended with me supplying the factual data.

I know. I was duped and I was stupid.

I encountered him again several months or maybe a year or more later at a Chick-Fil-A and he tried the same scam. I told him that we both knew perfectly well that we didn't know each other and to take his scam elsewhere or I'd call the police.

I encountered him once more after that and it went pretty much the same way.

Today, Sarah and I were leaving the grocery store as he was entering. He put on that big smile, same as usual, and said, "Is this my friend?" I said "No" and told him to get away from me with his scam.

He walked away and I turned to walk out and met one of the store employees coming in and I said, "Watch that guy, he's a crook".

He heard what I said and came back asking, "What did you say? What did you say?" I told him we both knew perfectly well that he was a crook. At that point, he became irate and threatened to beat my f***ing a**" several times.

I told him to turn around and walk away. Then he put his hand in his rear pocket. Razor or small pistol? I didn't know and still don't. I stepped into his space a bit and told him to take his hand out of his pocket and that it had better be empty. He did and it was. But, he continued to threaten to beat my a**.

A man pushing his cart out of the store heard that and stopped. He runs a martial arts dojo in the neighborhood.

I told the black guy, why don't we just dial 911 and see what the police think about you. He stated he needed to go into the store and get his medicine and he left, but threw one last threat to beat me up as he did so.

The Asian guy said if I wanted to call the police, he would stay as a witness and tell everything he had heard. He said, "You have a case. That man threatened you."

We had meat and milk in the grocery cart and it was ninety degrees. I chose to let it go.

And I was not armed.

Thinking I might need to get a pocket pistol of some sort. My .45 Para Ordnance WartHog does not ride in a pocket very well. I have a nice paddle holster, but I don't want to wear a jacket all the time and I surely do not want to open carry. I have a concealed carry vest. I guess I better start using it and also start going back to the range and train.

Charlie Noyes

Wow Charlie. As uncomfortable as it as at times to carry a 5 inch almost 3 pound 10 mm or lighter 45 and two spare mags with just an undershirt and a overshiirt, I do so. It hides pretty well but if I print, I print. Prefer not to but if I do, I do. That is not against the law at least where I am. I find solace in carrying. The one time you don’t carry is likely the time you wish you had. Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Don’t leave home without it. Even on a five minute trip. Even during yard work.
More than a few small pocket carries. I prefer a Sig 938 for that task myself even as a small backup holster carry. Ain’t cheap but life is worth it.

My 2 cents.

Jerry

[RobesonsRme.com]

I have what Alabama issues as a Non-Restricted Pistol Permit. It is not tied to any particular firearm by serial number, nor does it limit the number of firearms one can carry.

Charlie

[treefarmer]

Charlie, I have found a holster that is easy to wear for concealed carry. The only modification was to wear the square tailed shirts that are not meant to be tucked in. This is for Sunday, all other times jeans and any shirt hanging out will work. I can't handle the Inside the waistband holsters and I don't wear a coat often enough to consider a shoulder rig. These holsters are made by Phalanx Defense Systems, made in USA.
http://www.stealthoperator.com/Compact.php
Treefarmer

Fit the big on and the little one.

[RobesonsRme.com]

Here are three photos of me with the pistol in place behind my cell phone case and wearing a thirty year old tee shirt, one of my favorites.

It’s a paddle holster, but I can tell you now it’s going to eat my skin up where it rides between the belt and my hip.

I have a heavy duty pistol grade belt on and I also have a heavier Filson miner’s belt I can use.

I think the phone case limits the printing of the pistol quite well.

I think I need a better holster, though.