Wharncliffe Knives
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In the style of the Hawbaker Muskrat but S&M called it a "Straight Moose". From the Keystone Series XX with Bourbon Reversed Worm Groove Bone Jig Bone handles, I like it.
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Great color on that bone. Sweet, and classic.
That sounds like the moment when you look at the waiter, and say... "I ordered the fish!"jerryd6818 wrote:In the style of the Hawbaker Muskrat but S&M called it a "Straight Moose". From the Keystone Series XX with Bourbon Reversed Worm Groove Bone Jig Bone handles, I like it.
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Hawbaker Muskrat -- Sheepcliffe blade on one end, Muskrat clip blade on the other.
Moose -- Large knife with a big clip blade at one end and either a long spear or a long spey blade at the other end.
Maybe they should have called it a Hawbaker Moose.

Moose -- Large knife with a big clip blade at one end and either a long spear or a long spey blade at the other end.
Maybe they should have called it a Hawbaker Moose.
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Re: Wharncliffe Knives
I gotta say that keystone series is putting out some sweet knives.jerryd6818 wrote:Hawbaker Muskrat -- Sheepcliffe blade on one end, Muskrat clip blade on the other.
Moose -- Large knife with a big clip blade at one end and either a long spear or a long spey blade at the other end.
Maybe they should have called it a Hawbaker Moose.![]()
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Check out this S&M Acorn Series...if two can be considered a "series". This interior mammoth ivory wharncliffe trapper is from the Schatt & Morgan Custom Shop and is 1 of only 2 ever made. Supposedly, the acorn shield is quite rare on an S&M knife.gsmith7158 wrote:I gotta say that keystone series is putting out some sweet knives.
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Q: That is a very classy looking knife you have there. In fact I'd call it elegant. Congrats! 
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Thank you, Quick Steel.
Here's one that made me break my rule of never purchasing a knife that I've previously owned and sold. In my defense, however, the one I owned previously was used, whereas this Beretta Electra with carbon fiber handle scales on anodized blue liners is brand spankin' new...so, that's not really the same, right?
And besides, I regretted selling my first one almost as soon as I mailed it off. Finding this one to take it's place was nothing short of providential; so, in good conscience, I really couldn't refuse, now could I? As the saying goes, "Rules are made to be broken."
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Here's one that made me break my rule of never purchasing a knife that I've previously owned and sold. In my defense, however, the one I owned previously was used, whereas this Beretta Electra with carbon fiber handle scales on anodized blue liners is brand spankin' new...so, that's not really the same, right?
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Hot dang ~Q~. I just bought one of those. Not as nice as yours and used but I doubt I paid as much either. It should be here on Tuesday.QTCut5 wrote:Thank you, Quick Steel.
Here's one that made me break my rule of never purchasing a knife that I've previously owned and sold. In my defense, however, the one I owned previously was used, whereas this Beretta Electra with carbon fiber handle scales on anodized blue liners is brand spankin' new...so, that's not really the same, right?And besides, I regretted selling my first one almost as soon as I mailed it off. Finding this one to take it's place was nothing short of providential; so, in good conscience, I really couldn't refuse, now could I? As the saying goes, "Rules are made to be broken."
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Oh wait. You're the enabler that told me about it.
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Right On, jerryd...glad you won it. And, I think once you clean it up a bit you will agree you got a steal of a deal on a high quality piece of fine cutlery. Good show, my good man!
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I appreciate the heads up. Thank you.
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--T.J. Murphy 2012
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This is an unusual knife. It looks to be a Gunstock Wharncliffe Whittler with Ivory handles. 2 5/8" closed. All 3 blades stamped LUKE FIRTHS CELEBRATED CUTLERY. Has WHARNCLIFFE KNIFE stamped on the face of the master blade. Levine dates this stamp 1849 to 1870. 150 plus years old. Barry
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Sweet knife Barry
... A wharncliffe and gunstock in one - very cool and unique 
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Thanks guys. I have others. This next one is stamped PETER HENDRICH & GRAH on both blades. Nickel silver handles in a weird shape. It's 3 1/2" closed. I think I will call it a Swayback Mustache Jack. Has a nice long Wharncliffe master. Don't know anything about where it was made, but the names sound German. No info in Goins or Levine's. This unused knife was a little difficult to scan because of the reflection. It's very shiny. This one came from the Plainfield Fire Dept Knife Show about 6 or 8 years ago. Barry
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Barry; I found the below info in my 1986 Goins book, page #100.1fartsmella wrote:Thanks guys. I have others. This next one is stamped PETER HENDRICH & GRAH on both blades. Nickel silver handles in a weird shape. It's 3 1/2" closed. I think I will call it a Swayback Mustache Jack. Has a nice long Wharncliffe master. Don't know anything about where it was made, but the names sound German. No info in Goins or Levine's. This unused knife was a little difficult to scan because of the reflection. It's very shiny. This one came from the Plainfield Fire Dept Knife Show about 6 or 8 years ago. Barry
Looked up last name first. (I find that works many times in Goins book research)
Peter Hendricks c 1922-1926
The firm of Peter Hendricks G.m.b.H. Solingen, Germany used trademark "Pharus" during these years. In 1926 the firm was sold to Friedr. Herder & Sohn.
Barry; You can look up: Friedr, Herder ABR Sohn on page #101 of Goins 1986 issue for further information of the buyer of your posted knife mfg.
I must add that your knife is in very nice condition for its age.
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Those are some unique wharnies, Barry...Thanks for sharing.
Here are two "Wharnoes" (canoes that have had the master blades modified into wharncliffe blades).
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Here are two "Wharnoes" (canoes that have had the master blades modified into wharncliffe blades).
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Thanks Dan...........It's always important to know what you don't know.....That's one less thing I don't know. Thanks again, BarryOld Folder wrote:Barry; I found the below info in my 1986 Goins book, page #100.1fartsmella wrote:Thanks guys. I have others. This next one is stamped PETER HENDRICH & GRAH on both blades. Nickel silver handles in a weird shape. It's 3 1/2" closed. I think I will call it a Swayback Mustache Jack. Has a nice long Wharncliffe master. Don't know anything about where it was made, but the names sound German. No info in Goins or Levine's. This unused knife was a little difficult to scan because of the reflection. It's very shiny. This one came from the Plainfield Fire Dept Knife Show about 6 or 8 years ago. Barry
Looked up last name first. (I find that works many times in Goins book research)
Peter Hendricks c 1922-1926
The firm of Peter Hendricks G.m.b.H. Solingen, Germany used trademark "Pharus" during these years. In 1926 the firm was sold to Friedr. Herder & Sohn.
Barry; You can look up: Friedr, Herder ABR Sohn on page #101 of Goins 1986 issue for further information of the buyer of your posted knife mfg.
I must add that your knife is in very nice condition for its age.
Barry
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I agree, if only we can remember.1fartsmella wrote:Old Folder wrote:1fartsmella wrote:Thanks guys. I have others. This next one is stamped PETER HENDRICH & GRAH on both blades. Nickel silver handles in a weird shape. It's 3 1/2" closed. I think I will call it a Swayback Mustache Jack. Has a nice long Wharncliffe master. Don't know anything about where it was made, but the names sound German. No info in Goins or Levine's. This unused knife was a little difficult to scan because of the reflection. It's very shiny. This one came from the Plainfield Fire Dept Knife Show about 6 or 8 years ago. Barrym
Thanks Dan...........It's always important to know what you don't know.....That's one less thing I don't know. Thanks again, Barry
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A Beretta Trident I found deep in the safe. I forgot I had it.
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Gary, that Trident is just like the Electra except for the handles. They are a slick little knife. I wonder what other covers were put on.
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I have been wondering what the difference is between the Trident and the Electra...are they both the same size (3 5/8")?jerryd6818 wrote:Gary, that Trident is just like the Electra except for the handles. They are a slick little knife. I wonder what other covers were put on.
Here's my Electra with Carbon Fiber covers (which I posted in this thread last month).
I also saw this one with elephant ivory covers that was sold through Sander's AAPK store for $150...I'm kicking myself big time for missing out on that one.
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... er_stock=1
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I always thought they were all Beretta Trident's and the Electra was a "Beretta Trident Electra" model because it has the circuit board inlay.QTCut5 wrote:I have been wondering what the difference is between the Trident and the Electra...are they both the same size (3 5/8")?jerryd6818 wrote:Gary, that Trident is just like the Electra except for the handles. They are a slick little knife. I wonder what other covers were put on.
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the photo is a Beretta Trident with Carbon Fiber with box, I know its hard to read but Its just says Trident. I maybe wrong
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I know the Electra is 3-5/8" closed. I would guess the Trident is as well. The frames appear to be exactly alike except for the handles.
Just did a Google search and the Trident is 3-5/8".
Just did a Google search and the Trident is 3-5/8".
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OK, if they're both the same size, that totally makes sense: an Electra is a Trident with circuit board inlay. I was worried that the Trident was a larger frame size, because if it were, of course I'd have to get one.PCwizard wrote:I always thought they were all Beretta Trident's and the Electra was a "Beretta Trident Electra" model because it has the circuit board inlay. the photo is a Beretta Trident with Carbon Fiber with box, I know its hard to read but Its just says Trident. I maybe wrong
That Trident in Cocobolo sure is classy...first time I've seen that version.
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