Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[zp4ja]

My go to carry today. SIG SAUER P220 10 mm SA/DA 5" with Hogue Piranha grips. 6 additional mags on the tatical ballistic front seat covers back in the Raptor. Help is many long minutes off IF you even have cell service in this desert.
Drivers side has roughly 10 mags for two of my SIGs and six 30 round .556 mags. Passenger seat is buckshot centra with 4 more pistol mags and some AR-10 mags.. Both seat have binos, para cord, flashlights spread out randomly.
Jerry

[peanut740]

My go to carry today. SIG SAUER P220 10 mm SA/DA 5" with Hogue Piranha grips. 6 additional mags on the tatical ballistic front seat covers back in the Raptor. Help is many long minutes off IF you even have cell service in this desert.
Drivers side has roughly 10 mags for two of my SIGs and six 30 round .556 mags. Passenger seat is buckshot centra with 4 more pistol mags and some AR-10 mags.. Both seat have binos, para cord, flashlights spread out randomly.
Jerry

Jerry,you're ready to ROCK!

[zp4ja]

Hey Roger.

Glad to hear from you. Hope life finds you well! Had this setup a couple of years. Everything has its place and everything in it's place. Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Hope I never need it. Especially in this crazy clown world we live in today.

Take care, Jerry

[peanut740]

Hey Roger.

Glad to hear from you. Hope life finds you well! Had this setup a couple of years. Everything has its place and everything in it's place. Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Hope I never need it. Especially in this crazy clown world we live in today.

Take care, Jerry

I heard that!Thanks, all is well as can be in these times.

[Boji]

My go to carry today. SIG SAUER P220 10 mm SA/DA 5" with Hogue Piranha grips. 6 additional mags on the tatical ballistic front seat covers back in the Raptor. Help is many long minutes off IF you even have cell service in this desert.
Drivers side has roughly 10 mags for two of my SIGs and six 30 round .556 mags. Passenger seat is buckshot centra with 4 more pistol mags and some AR-10 mags.. Both seat have binos, para cord, flashlights spread out randomly.
Jerry

I’d say you’re ready for most anything. Hope there’s a first aid kit around there. And water.

[zp4ja]

As a matter of fact there is Boji. Have a basic aid bag that is pretty comprehensive for non trauma care. Going to pick up some Israeli Trauma Bandages. Look it up. More concerned about severe trauma than cut finger. Suck the latter up. Literally maybe an hour or more response time if they can find me where I go if cell service. May have to drive whatever crapshow out if I am able.
Have a rear under seat gun box as well. It's that rather have it thing again...
Water is a given. Pretty obvious requirement if you want to survive. Two cases for me alone in the Yeti on ice in back and food if course.. Pack like I may be stuck for days because I might be. 27 years in the desert and never broke down or stranded yet. Must be doing something right. Stop for folks everytime if on roadside and offer help and water. Funny but everyone does same for me as well. My backyard.

Jerry

[zp4ja]

Not cleaned up yet and did not plan on it but it was there at gun shop when checking on a mag purchase.
1971' 4 inch .38 Special Colt Diamondback in nickel silver. 5th year made. Used my serial number guide for year. On consignment 2800, out the door 1325. Some phone haggling (normally never do that) but really pleased with gun and price. Dad's Diamondback now has a sister. 3 Snakes in the clan now...

So hard to get good pictures for me but the new Colt snake is ~95% condition I would estimate. Normal wear, tight, good cylinder timing, no cylinder slams, trigger and hammer action precise, etc. All excellent.

Jerry

[Boji]

Nice!! Plus not bad on the price. Color me jealous.

[peanut740]

Jerry,those are sweet!

[FRJ]

Very nice, Jerry.

[zp4ja]

Thanks Boji, Roger and Joe for the compliments.

Hate haggling so I personally always use my rock bottom price when I sell something but the price tag did say "OBO".
Previous owner said rock bottom price, I countered. Rock bottom again. I gave him my rock ceiling. He declined. I said thanks anyway.
Phone rang 30 seconds later at gun shop with 25 bucks added to his price. Ain't haggling over $12.50. Sold. Guy selling asked dealer, who the heck is this guy? Good home, guy that just bought your gun!
Great price for this firearm. Carried today and tonight. Perfect fit in leather of my already procured snake kin.

Hope to shoot it tomorrow or day after.

Jerry

[OSCAR]

Freak accident occurred on a rifle range n Texas a few days ago. Pretty sobering. A reminder to be careful. Worth checking out.
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[1967redrider]

Yikes!!! One also has to be on top of the ball when firing antique firearms or the same thing can happen. Modern black powder is waaaaaaaaaay different than that used in older cartridges. Posting a picture of the link in case someone cannot get it to open properly. That was some catastrophic failure.

[Boji]

Scary for sure! I’ve seen blown up handguns before but not a rifle. Safety first, never have more than one kind of ammo in the shooting bay. Know your gun, know your ammo.

[OSCAR]

Scary for sure! I’ve seen blown up handguns before but not a rifle. Safety first, never have more than one kind of ammo in the shooting bay. Know your gun, know your ammo.

Boji, the article says he used wrong caliber ammo but doesn’t say what that rifle was chambered for, nor what ammo he used. Could be a bad reload as well. One thing is certain. It was high power and not a rim fire. 7mm magnum perhaps ?

[zp4ja]

Horrible accident. What is even worse is a squib round or hang fire. Never personally had either but know what to do if I have one as I am aware of the "symptoms".
I have seen the results and they can be just as ugly.
At the risk of sounding remedial to those that know, in case someone reading doesn't...

Squib: when you pull the trigger and signature loud normally associated boom does not occur. Could have a bullet lodged in the barrel. Pull the trigger again and your hand may be impacted in a bad way by your gun exploding. I have handled guns that have been squib'd and someone pulled the trigger again. Eye opening to say the least.

Hang fire: you pull the trigger on a live round and just hear a click. Old powder may take more than a few seconds to discharge the projectile. Don't look down the business end of the barrel to see what went wrong (seen video of a guy whom almost blew his face off with a shotgun). Or immediately eject cartridge to investigate why. Weapon down, barrel downrange, step back. Wait 5 minutes then investigate. I personally just throw bullet as far as possible after 5 minutes.

Shooting 101 but some may not know. Enough sad videos on the internet to prove my point.

Jerry

[OSCAR]

Horrible accident. What is even worse is a squib round or hang fire. Never personally had either but know what to do if I have one as I am aware of the "symptoms".
I have seen the results and they can be just as ugly.
At the risk of sounding remedial to those that know, in case someone reading doesn't...

Squib: when you pull the trigger and signature loud normally associated boom does not occur. Could have a bullet lodged in the barrel. Pull the trigger again and your hand may be impacted in a bad way by your gun exploding. I have handled guns that have been squib'd and someone pulled the trigger again. Eye opening to say the least.

Hang fire: you pull the trigger on a live round and just hear a click. Old powder may take more than a few seconds to discharge the projectile. Don't look down the business end of the barrel to see what went wrong (seen video of a guy whom almost blew his face off with a shotgun). Or immediately eject cartridge to investigate why. Weapon down, barrel downrange, step back. Wait 5 minutes then investigate. I personally just throw bullet as far as possible after 5 minutes.

Shooting 101 but some may not know. Enough sad videos on the internet to prove my point.

Jerry

Jerry, the article does not say what caliber ammo, nor what that rifle was chambered to use. It could also be a bad reload. Wrong powder, too heavy a projectile, or double charged cartridge would also cause dangerous pressure. I am curious so I hope that they update the story with more information. From the looks of the aftermath, he’s lucky he wasn’t hurt worse or fatally.

[zp4ja]

Oscar, my statements on squib and hang fire has nothing to do with this tragic incident. All that is stated is wrong cartridge. I never disputed or speculated about that. My comments were completely aside from that on other disastrous ramifications that can occur while shooting for some that may not have that knowledge. Nothing to do with the specific incident you posted but what I mentioned can have same tragic results. Won't speculate as to cause myself as obviously something went horribly wrong and there is a short list of how these events occur. You did bring up additional valid points to the essence of my post of things that may cause a bad day at the range or in the field...

Jerry

[OSCAR]

Oscar, my statements on squib and hang fire has nothing to do with this tragic incident. All that is stated is wrong cartridge. I never disputed or speculated about that. My comments were completely aside from that on other disastrous ramifications that can occur while shooting for some that may not have that knowledge. Nothing to do with the specific incident you posted but what I mentioned can have same tragic results. Won't speculate as to cause myself as obviously something went horribly wrong and there is a short list of how these events occur. You did bring up additional valid points to the essence of my post of things that may cause a bad day at the range or in the field...

Jerry

I agree with you 100% Jerry. In my opinion, it could have been caused by many factors. I am not speculating just thinking (out loud) about all the possible causes. Definitely tragic but a reminder to everyone to keep alert and be mindful not to get careless. Although the cause of this incident is purely academic, I am curious to know what exactly generated such an excessive pressure. The article says wrong caliber ammo used. If that was the reason, I was curious as to rifle caliber and ammo caliber that was loaded. I can only see one box of ammo on the bench and cannot make out the caliber. I’ve witnessed a few such mishaps over the years, but nothing as bad as this. Kind of hoping that they update more information as (from the photo) the force was incredible.
Worst I’ve personally seen was a 357 Smith with a bad reload 2 places down from me on the bench. Top strap and upper part of cylinder was ripped apart. Fortunately nobody got injured. I’ve never had a squib, or seen one but I know it is catastrophic.

[OLDE CUTLER]

I was at a gunshow last spring and I was talking to a dealer who sold reloading components when 2 young guys walked up to his table. I noticed that one of them had his hand and arm all bandaged up. The dealer knew them and asked what had happened. The one with the damaged hand had blown up an AR15 rifle in 5.56mm caliber. He was lucky to not have been more seriously injured, there was almost no part salvageable from the AR. As the two talked to the dealer and they discussed what the cause might have been, they came to the conclusion that they could not determine what had caused it. The one fellow noticed that I had been listening to their conversation and asked me if I had any idea. I asked them, they had said the 6th shot from a box of 100 rounds that they had reloaded themselves had blown up the gun, they pulled the bullets from the other 94 rounds and checked the powder and weight and everything they saw was correct, right? They said, right. I asked them what kind of powder measure they used to dispense the powder and they said an RCBS. I asked them if they also reloaded pistol ammo with the same measure, and the fellow said, yes, pistol ammo for a 45. I told them there was only one possible thing that blew up the gun and the one shot that did it destroyed all the evidence, that is why they could not find anything wrong. I told them that what had happened was that the reloaders had loaded some pistol ammo for the 45, and without realizing it had left maybe 10-20 grains of pistol powder in the measure which would have been out of sight below the level of the clear plastic tube. They then had poured the rifle powder, Winchester W748 on top of that unseen pistol powder and the one faulty round would have contained mostly pistol powder, in this case Winchester W231. A 5.56mm round loaded with mostly W231 pistol powder would produce an astronomical pressure and would blow up any rifle. The two reloaders looked at each other and both of their jaws fell to the floor. The one said they had indeed been loading some pistol ammo for the 45 and had used up all their W231 powder, or so they thought. They then poured the W748 into the measure and started loading the 5.55mm ammo. I asked them if they checked the weight of the charge of the first round, and they said no, they checked the 3rd charge on the scale and it was correct. But the first round which by random chance was fired as the 6th shot was the faulty one. I have been reloading since 1975 and have not as yet ever had an incident, KNOCK ON WOOD. But you have to be paying attention all the time. I always take my powder measure out of the stand and lay it on its side when not in use, and turn it upside down to make sure there isnt anything in it before powder is added. I have a Hornady powder measure that can be set to dispense powder for both pistol and rifle loads like the RCBS that they used.

[dlr110]

Does anyone have the real scoop on the story about credit card companies tracking gun and ammo sales? If true is this something the industry came up with or is this a Homeland Security mandate?

[bestgear]

Does anyone have the real scoop on the story about credit card companies tracking gun and ammo sales? If true is this something the industry came up with or is this a Homeland Security mandate?

not a DHS mandate as I understand it David, "voluntarily" Visa, MasterCard, and American Express are implementing a new merchant category code for gun retailers based on the recently approved International Organization for Standardization (ISO) code. The National Rifle Association criticizes the move and says the code is “a capitulation to anti-gun politicians and activists.” Look at your prior credit card transactions from a gun merchant, and you'll see nothing that isolates them from every other retailer, and most likely, your transaction was categorized as "General Merchandise". I wonder what will happen if I purchase fishing tackle from Midway USA since the categorization is at the transaction level and not the individual item level?

[Boji]

On a gun forum I’m on there are a lot of conspiracy thoughts being discussed.
Basically it is a “feel good” thing so the anti’s can say they did something. However, it does open the door a crack for more.
I will know more next week after a Zoom conference
Can you imagine the billions of $$$ spent at Cabelas and Bass Pro being coded as firearms sales? A lot of useless data.

[Paladin]

On a gun forum I’m on there are a lot of conspiracy thoughts being discussed.
Basically it is a “feel good” thing so the anti’s can say they did something. However, it does open the door a crack for more.
I will know more next week after a Zoom conference

Boji,
Speaking just for myself, I will be very interested to hear the feedback from your meeting.

Ray

[bestgear]

Can you imagine the billions of $$$ spent at Cabelas and Bass Pro being coded as firearms sales? A lot of useless data.

exactly my point Boji