Veterans

[CamMan21]

Thanks Guys, They probably changed all that since '67. J.O'.

Anglico has been around for a very long time, except a short stint in the late 90s / early 2000's, when they were stripped down and called "Marine Liaison Elements". I believe they were reactivated when someone figured out the original strength woulda been handy in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

[jerryd6818]

Jerry: I was attached for a couple weeks TDY with a Marine unit of land based F.O's who directed Naval guns just offshore to support some Korean ROK Marines . I can't remember the Marine (US) name for their kind of unit. Ever heard of that or know what that kind of outfit is called?
By the way, they never called missions from the ships while I was there. We were transitioning to land-based artillery from our batteries and they bugged out. Thanks. J.O'.

Anglico....or Air Naval Gunfire Liaison Company. Would be my guess anyway.

ANGLICO, there ya go. Thanks.

[marinaio61]

Guess I must have overlooked this thread! I served in the USN Submarine Service from 1961 to 1970, Atlantic Fleet.

[Ridgegrass]

Marinalo: Good man! Don't think I could do that, too claustrophobic. J.O'.

[Ridgegrass]

I looked up Marine F.O. units for Naval gunfire direction on Wikipedia. Found something very interesting about ANGLICO. The Marine unit to which I was attached in '67 was "Subunit One".The only Marine unit under direct orders of MACV. We were at a place in I Corps called Chun Yung, maybe 15-20 miles south of Chu Lai. The base was manned by R.O.K. Marines and before our batteries came to support the area the ANGLICO guys were there with Naval gunfire support. They supported any operations by US, South Vietnamese and South Korean units in that sector. The article also states that Subunit One was the last Marine unit deactivated in Viet Nam. Guess that makes sense as the withdrawal of American forces had to be protected somehow and offshore guns would be all that was available in the end.
I don't know where Subunit One went after we took over in Chun Yung .
Funny I don't remember the term ANGLICO. I think they just called themselves "FCT", Fire Control Team. But they were definitely part of the ANGLICO operation. They were good guys,.We worked and got along well. Hope they all made it home.
WOW ! 54 years sure slipped by,

[Steve Warden]

It can't be said enough -- thanks to all who have served!

[fergusontd]

Our F.O.'s for our ship (a destroyer) as either helo's or Birddog Piper cubs. '68 - '71 to direct our Navel gunfire. At times we were called from Army or Marine ground units under attack for gunfire support. ftd

[Dan In MI]

You have to be military to read all that "mil-speak" .

I understood some of it, but Army unit designations (such as 6/92nd Artillery) always confounded me.

I've also been going back into my memory for a good military story.

[Ridgegrass]

The 6/92nd means the 6th Battalion of the 92nd Artillery Regiment. The "Regiments" were divided into battalions that were attached to larger units like Brigades and Divisions. Example: The 1st Battalion of the 14 Artillery Regiment (1/14 )was assigned to the 2nd Armored Division at Fort Hood Texas, then was deployed with the 198th Light Infantry Brigade that went to Viet Nam to join the even larger Americal Division. The size progression goes roughly:
Company,(or Battery in Artillery), Battalion, Regiment, Brigade, Division, Corps, Army.

Got it? Quiz tomorrow. J.O'.

[Quick Steel]

Another example. My first assignment was to the 5/32 = 5th Battaalion, 32nd Armor Regiment which in turn was attached to the 24th Infantry Division.

[Dan In MI]

Thanks for the explanations. In the Navy, it is more like: work center, division, department, and ship. Then you have your ISIC (Immediate Superior In Command; in the case of USS Peleliu, that was COMPHIBRON-3), battle group, fleet, and Navy. Likely I left something out and/or messed up a few details, but that should give a decent general idea.

[Ridgegrass]

Two military things I never understood> Air Force rank insignia and any Warrant Officer. Can't make heads or tails of them. I just saluted all of 'em. J.O'.

[Old Hunter]

The 6/92nd means the 6th Battalion of the 92nd Artillery Regiment. The "Regiments" were divided into battalions that were attached to larger units like Brigades and Divisions. Example: The 1st Battalion of the 14 Artillery Regiment (1/14 )was assigned to the 2nd Armored Division at Fort Hood Texas, then was deployed with the 198th Light Infantry Brigade that went to Viet Nam to join the even larger Americal Division. The size progression goes roughly:
Company,(or Battery in Artillery), Battalion, Regiment, Brigade, Division, Corps, Army.

Got it? Quiz tomorrow. J.O'.

Don't leave us Groupies out! Non-Divisional units such as Military Police, Special Forces, and Support are organized in Groups in lieu of Brigades (however there are MP Brigades and Support Brigades as well). The progression for units assigned to Groups is Company - Battalion - Group - Corps - Theater Army. I spent 32 years in non-divisional units (Detachments, Companies, Battalions, Groups, and Corps) never a day in a brigade or division.

[Quick Steel]

Some years ago I set down my military experience for my family. I posted some of these on the Knife Forum page under Mostly True Stories.
I won't repost them here but simply relist their titles which you can look up if you have any interest. They are all located on pages 1 and 2 of the thrread.

Showdodwn on HWY 1.
RVN Tales: Personalities
The Crash Part A, The Crash Part B
VN Tales Bad Night in the Quarry
I Was There
Tales of Vietnam
RVN Tales #2
Country Road

[jerryd6818]

Some years ago I set down my military experience for my family. I posted some of these on the Knife Forum page under Mostly True Stories.
I won't repost them here but simply relist their titles which you can look up if you have any interest. They are all located on pages 1 and 2 of the thrread.

Showdodwn on HWY 1.
RVN Tales: Personalities
The Crash Part A, The Crash Part B
VN Tales Bad Night in the Quarry
I Was There
Tales of Vietnam
RVN Tales #2
Country Road

Several years ago, my daughter asked me to write an autobiography. A few years later I got it started, then it went dormant for a few years and finally I recently finished it. It's mostly a chronology of the places I've lived (there are about 40 of them) mixed in with the cars and motorcycles I had but there's some personal stuff in it too. At some point I noticed that my military service took up much of it and was the most detailed. Up to that point I never really realized how much impact the military had on me. In retrospect, there are three segments of my life that have been the most important of my memories. The USMC, my employment with NCR (National Cash Register, business machines of all sorts) and my employment with Amdahl Corp. (large mainframe computers). I finally got it sent off to her but she hasn't said anything about it. Maybe she's having a tough time staying awake long enough to get through it.

[dlr110]

You’re correct CamMan21, Anglico. In 1985/86, I was on the USS Guadalcanal LPH-7 in the Mediterranean Sea, and we had a couple of Marine Captains with Anglico that like to come down to our work space and play poker (poor guys) after hours. I was the leading chief with a small group of controllers, radiomen and intel specialists attached to the PHIBRON Commanders staff. It was our job to direct and control Close Air Support Missions (CAS) from the Supporting Arms Control Center (SACC). We were also trained to deploy off the ship with the Anglico Co. and their Forward Air Controllers (FAC’s) in an amphibious landing before the Marines established their command and control unit ashore, at least that’s the way we did it back then. It was our job to find enemy troops, encampments, convoys etc., without being detected of course, and then call in and direct Naval Gunfire, CAS or whatever was at our disposal. We practiced our trade on the island of Sardinia and in Tunisia before several US Task Groups crossed Muhammar Al-Qadhafi’s line of death as he called it. As they say the rest is history.

[CamMan21]

Some years ago I set down my military experience for my family....

Several years ago, my daughter asked me to write an autobiography. A few years later I got it started, then it went dormant for a few years and finally I recently finished it...

It's funny you both say this...been wanting write a memoir for a long time. I even started it a couple times and was making good progress. Inevitably, it always ends up on the back burner.

All is well though, as I have found nothing ages quite as well as a good story

[CamMan21]

Don't leave us Groupies out! Non-Divisional units such as Military Police, Special Forces, and Support are organized in Groups in lieu of Brigades (however there are MP Brigades and Support Brigades as well).

As well as Marine Air Wings (MAGs as opposed to regiments) and logistics elements (MLGs above the logistics regiments (CLRs). Otherwise nearly identical to the Army, except only one Corps.

[jerryd6818]

Don't leave us Groupies out! Non-Divisional units such as Military Police, Special Forces, and Support are organized in Groups in lieu of Brigades (however there are MP Brigades and Support Brigades as well).

As well as Marine Air Wings (MAGs as opposed to regiments) and logistics elements (MLGs above the logistics regiments (CLRs). Otherwise nearly identical to the Army, except only one Corps.

You were in the Corps??

[CamMan21]

You were in the Corps??

Yes, shipped off to boot camp in 1996 when I was 17 and retired a few years ago.

[jerryd6818]

You were in the Corps??

Yes, shipped off to boot camp in 1996 when I was 17 and retired a few years ago.

Semper Fi my brother.

[CamMan21]

Semper Fi my brother.

Semper Fi, Jerry.

[Ridgegrass]

CamMan and Old Hunter. My apologies. Didn't mean to slight anyone. I don't know much about those Groups. J.O'.

[jerryd6818]

Two military things I never understood> Air Force rank insignia and any Warrant Officer. J.O'.

Amen Bro. Navy rank is a tough one but I was around enough Navy to understand it after a while. Air Force rank? Not so much. My niece is an Air Force Master Sgt (E-7). In the Marine Corps and Army, a Master Sgt is an E-8, not an E-7. and Air Force is a Staff Sgt (E-5) while in the Marine Corps & Army it's E-6. At least their officers are standard.
As far as Warrant Officers? Just continue to salute 'em, call 'em Gunner and go on down the road.

[bighomer]

We didn't salute warrent officers when I was in, and they were called Mr. or Mrs. although I never met lady warrent officer. Most of the older ones especially didn't like being called sir, they we re offended worse than a NCO if you messed up and called them sir. They'd let know they were working men in a hurry.