Old Stockman Knives

[BWT]

That’s some nice looking stockmans wannadoto
I posted this Schrade in another thread, but found this stockman thread, so I moved it over here.
Picked this up last week from Roger, really like the pick bone! Thanks for looking and your comments.

[wlf]

That’s some nice looking stockmans wannadoto
I posted this Schrade in another thread, but found this stockman thread, so I moved it over here.
Picked this up last week from Roger, really like the pick bone! Thanks for looking and your comments.

My favorite bone too Bill .

[BWT]

Thanks Lyle

[Ivoryman]

[BWT]

Very nice Iman

[Thomasg]

Western states

Western states (buck horn)

Western states (buck horn )

Western states

[Thomasg]

Western Boulder Colorado

[Thomasg]

New York knife co (hammer brand )

New York knife co.(hammer brand )

[FRJ]

I sure like those Western packers your showing there.

That New York Hammer is really nice too.

Good show!

[Jacknifeben]

Think this knife was made in about 1910 buy Napanoch for Jack Knife Ben.

[wlf]

Nice man.
Very nice showing Thomas, I really like a lot of those celluloid.
As usual a terrific knife D.

[Thomasg]

I have a question! Is there a difference in the "stockman" pattern and the "cattleman" pattern? For some reason I keep thinking the stockman has the 3 blades like a Case 6375 but when a knife shows up with an awl or punch it should be called a "cattleman". The knife in the OP is probably a #49 Queen but the 2nd post is a beautiful knife with a punch. This "rang my bell" and I've been wondering about it, is there a difference or is it what the owner prefers to call it? The awl would be to repair leather, thus cowboy, cow hunter or cattle man....?
Treefarmer

A cowboy once told me that a knife without a punch blade is for goat ,sheep herders and pig farmers .

[Thomasg]

[Wannadotoo]

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Love the scales....celluloid?

[Thomasg]

Yes the scales are celluloid. The shield has the initials R W. Nicely in graved also . The knife has been well kept and in great shape considering it came out in the western states catalog in 1931 .

[Mumbleypeg]

You have some great examples of "butter and molasses” celluloid!

Ken

[treefarmer]

I have a question! Is there a difference in the "stockman" pattern and the "cattleman" pattern? For some reason I keep thinking the stockman has the 3 blades like a Case 6375 but when a knife shows up with an awl or punch it should be called a "cattleman". The knife in the OP is probably a #49 Queen but the 2nd post is a beautiful knife with a punch. This "rang my bell" and I've been wondering about it, is there a difference or is it what the owner prefers to call it? The awl would be to repair leather, thus cowboy, cow hunter or cattle man....?
Treefarmer

A cowboy once told me that a knife without a punch blade is for goat ,sheep herders and pig farmers .

Just a casual observation of this post that Thomasg had pulled from the past: I realized from my question back in 2016, I believe I've learned a bit more about knife patterns. Setting aside the blade comparisons between stockman and cattleman/cattle pattern, the big difference has to do with the shape of the frame. I feel confident in saying an equal end frame can be referred to as a cattle knife and a serpentine framed knife with the same blade configuration is a Stockman. Then the same equal end frame can have a bail/shackle and a can opener, and it becomes a scout/camp knife.
An interesting and sometimes confusing hobby we are in.
Treefarmer

[Thomasg]

I have a question! Is there a difference in the "stockman" pattern and the "cattleman" pattern? For some reason I keep thinking the stockman has the 3 blades like a Case 6375 but when a knife shows up with an awl or punch it should be called a "cattleman". The knife in the OP is probably a #49 Queen but the 2nd post is a beautiful knife with a punch. This "rang my bell" and I've been wondering about it, is there a difference or is it what the owner prefers to call it? The awl would be to repair leather, thus cowboy, cow hunter or cattle man....?
Treefarmer

A cowboy once told me that a knife without a punch blade is for goat ,sheep herders and pig farmers .

Just a casual observation of this post that Thomasg had pulled from the past: I realized from my question back in 2016, I believe I've learned a bit more about knife patterns. Setting aside the blade comparisons between stockman and cattleman/cattle pattern, the big difference has to do with the shape of the frame. I feel confident in saying an equal end frame can be referred to as a cattle knife and a serpentine framed knife with the same blade configuration is a Stockman. Then the same equal end frame can have a bail/shackle and a can opener, and it becomes a scout/camp knife.
An interesting and sometimes confusing hobby we are in.
Treefarmer

Page 323 Sargents 3rd edition

Pal stock knife

Page 325 Sargents 3rd edition

PAl cattle knife

I noticed in the pal knifes add from way back then that they used just a gender neutral descriptions (stock knife) ,(cattle knife)) .we’re they being politically correct way back then in their marketing. ? Was the word stockman used by companies to market a specific knife model or was man added to the end of stock as descriptions from the customer s lingo .you are correct treefarmer .a interesting sometimes confusing hobby we are in!

[Wannadotoo]

Here's my latest project knife....I sent a vintage Queen to some folks in Michigan for beautiful custom scales
Petoskey stone!

[doglegg]

Lovely

[Wannadotoo]

Here's my latest project knife....I sent a vintage Queen to some folks in Michigan for beautiful custom scales
Petoskey stone!

[313 Mike]

Here's my latest project knife....I sent a vintage Queen to some folks in Michigan for beautiful custom scales
Petoskey stone!

That is a beautiful material.

[Wannadotoo]

Newest Ebay find...Shumate cutlery

[Wannadotoo]

Love stockmans and are pretty much my daily carry, i picked up this lovely Imperial frontier senior stockman yesterday at a market, its still got its factory edges and looks like someone added these inlaid scrimshaw panels
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Thats a beauty!!!!

[New_Windsor_NY]

Newest.....

Would you please post a picture with all three blades open.