New Announcement from the The Daniels Family !!!

The Tuna Valley Cutlery Company was an old Pennsylvania brand that was resurrected by Perry Miller in 2007. Perry had several patterns produced by GEC under this name in the later 2000s. In 2012, Daniels Family Knives purchased the Tuna Valley Cutlery name & working stock. Production has since resumed under the direction of Ken Daniels (co-founder of Great Eastern Cutlery) and his son Ryan Daniels.
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New Announcement from the The Daniels Family !!!

Post by danielsfamilyknives » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:34 am

I would just like to share some great excitement happing to our business with all my friends and family here at AAPK. As of June 4 we are in negoations to purchase Queen Cutlery Co. / Schatt & Morgan where if succesful we will be taking over all operations. Everything is just in negoations and nothing is final yet but once happen I think you'll see lots of new and exciting USA made lines which we have always been committed to.

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Post by caddyman1973 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:38 am

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Post by garddogg56 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:18 am

Best of luck to you and your family,I hope with this aquisition that you produce more knives that the average blue collar worker can afford ::nod::
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Post by 1967redrider » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:31 am

I hope it happens for you, Ryan! You are turning out some top of the line collector knives in awesome patterns. I think you would do well given the type of knives S&M turns out, and Queen makes both quality collector and user knives. Seems like you can't go wrong, good luck!

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Post by Iron Hoarder » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:36 am

This sounds interesting. ::hmm::
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Post by upnorth » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:12 pm

Ryan, and Ken, that's a brave move!! I hope you are successful, and
I wish you all the best!!
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Post by Classic Case » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:50 pm

I wish you good luck. ::tu::
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Post by danielsfamilyknives » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:15 am

Thank you all for the well wishes. We hope to many things to bring back excitment to this great USA company that has been around for years. I will be sure to bring everyone updates soon. Thanks again

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Post by johnny twoshoes » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:58 pm

With the the Daniels family in control, we will see Queen rise from the ashes.
I am definitely willing to give Queen another try as long as I know that the Daniels are going to be in charge. ::tu::

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Post by knifeaholic » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:00 pm

johnny twoshoes wrote:With the the Daniels family in control, we will see Queen rise from the ashes.
I am definitely willing to give Queen another try as long as I know that the Daniels are going to be in charge. ::tu::
Exactly what "ashes" will Queen be rising from? Just curious.

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Post by johnny twoshoes » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:46 pm

Well, I should have stated that this was just my own opinion.

I have had a few bad experiences with Queen over the last few years. I know what they used to do and I know what they do now. They've lost a lot of QC and have been sending out some not so great knives.
The main complaint that I have, as do many others, is their edge, it's been problem for years. GEC was the same way for a while, but they stepped it up and got that problem fixed.

A few years ago I was at the Queen show in Titusville, PA. Queen had a great set up and had a lot to offer, but I wanted a show knife.
I asked about purchasing one and I was handed a box and I made my purchase. It wasn't until after the show that I actually looked at my own knife, it had a deep crack going down the one side. I would understand if maybe it was dropped in the move to the show, but the crack was dyed over. That, combined with the fact the the blade does a little dance when it's opened.

I sure hope not to hurt any feelings, but this is all based on my own opinion, experience and comparison to the way things used to be.
Queen has taken a back seat to the other companies, in a big way.

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Post by knifeaholic » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:38 pm

johnny twoshoes wrote:Well, I should have stated that this was just my own opinion.

I have had a few bad experiences with Queen over the last few years. I know what they used to do and I know what they do now. They've lost a lot of QC and have been sending out some not so great knives.
The main complaint that I have, as do many others, is their edge, it's been problem for years. GEC was the same way for a while, but they stepped it up and got that problem fixed.

A few years ago I was at the Queen show in Titusville, PA. Queen had a great set up and had a lot to offer, but I wanted a show knife.
I asked about purchasing one and I was handed a box and I made my purchase. It wasn't until after the show that I actually looked at my own knife, it had a deep crack going down the one side. I would understand if maybe it was dropped in the move to the show, but the crack was dyed over. That, combined with the fact the the blade does a little dance when it's opened.

I sure hope not to hurt any feelings, but this is all based on my own opinion, experience and comparison to the way things used to be.
Queen has taken a back seat to the other companies, in a big way.
I appreciate your thoughts. Its too bad that Queen has had such QC problems recently. Queen has been my favorite brand for new knives for a number of years, but I do not buy very many of them. I have had good luck with the quality on the aged honey amber stag bone knives in D2 that I have bought, but I agree on the edge grinds. I do like the general level of Queen's quality for the price, and the fact that they make a solid line of users not exclusively the limited production knives aimed at the collector market. However if their quality has been in decline that is bad news. Perhaps the loss of talent to GEC hurt them.

I will say that the area where Queen has been very poor compared to Case and GEC is in customer outreach like keeping their website up to date and responding to complaints about their general QC issues. I have no doubt that the Dainels family can improve that a thousand percent.

I had often mused about Queen being bought out, since Servotronics main business is not cutlery related. My thoughts were that either GEC would buy them to consolidate a lot of production capacity in Titusville, or that maybe Bluegrass Cutlery would buy them due to the long relationship of Queen making knives for Bluegrass.

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Post by johnny twoshoes » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:20 pm

I want very much to love Queen knives, my Grandfather has spoken highly of them since I was little. I remember a few Queens knives being around when I was growing up and I have good friends who use them. I just miss the true devotion to excellency. It's a little harsh to say that they are in any kind of ashes, but I can't see them succeeding all that much longer the way business seems to be going.

I love that Queen uses different steels and when the grinds are good, it's hard to beat the D2. I have a folding hunter and the edge was extremely thick, it took a while for a rookie to get the edge right, but now it's a wicked slicer and I could beat it through a brick and still have a great edge.

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Post by knifeaholic » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:27 pm

johnny twoshoes wrote:I want very much to love Queen knives, my Grandfather has spoken highly of them since I was little. I remember a few Queens knives being around when I was growing up and I have good friends who use them. I just miss the true devotion to excellency. It's a little harsh to say that they are in any kind of ashes, but I can't see them succeeding all that much longer the way business seems to be going.

I love that Queen uses different steels and when the grinds are good, it's hard to beat the D2. I have a folding hunter and the edge was extremely thick, it took a while for a rookie to get the edge right, but now it's a wicked slicer and I could beat it through a brick and still have a great edge.
I must be doing something wrong then. I have used and continue to use a number of Queen D2 knives, but I find the edge holding to be no better than other steels like Case CV and Case SS.

Queen used 440C on their pocketknives from the 1950's through about 1977. These knives seem to have very good edge holding and sharpen relatively easily.

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Post by Iron Hoarder » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:31 pm

The Schatt and Morgans made by Queen I've gotten were good but the two or three general production Queens I've picked up aren't very good at all.
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