Farmer's Jacks

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Neat Dan. Cool knife huh. Congratulations.
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Mel that's a great knife. Congratulations on snagging that one. ::tu::
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Nice one Mel,but I'm kinda prejudiced.

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Thanks for the kind comments!

I have a question about the body shape of this knife. Is there an accepted name for it? I know that Case calls their whittlers Seahorse Whittlers. But seahorse seems to be a fairly new term; maybe coined by Case?

I think I have seen it described as a serpentine sleeveboard. That certainly seems to fit. I am curious because I have gradually decided that it is my favorite shape for a pocket knife, with the Case Seahorse and Bulldog whittlers being my favorite carry.
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Dinadan wrote:Thanks for the kind comments!

I have a question about the body shape of this knife. Is there an accepted name for it? I know that Case calls their whittlers Seahorse Whittlers. But seahorse seems to be a fairly new term; maybe coined by Case?

I think I have seen it described as a serpentine sleeveboard. That certainly seems to fit. I am curious because I have gradually decided that it is my favorite shape for a pocket knife, with the Case Seahorse and Bulldog whittlers being my favorite carry.
Hey,hurricane alley,that's the way I got started.

Levine calls them farmers jacks(LG4 pg. 189,LG5 pg. 195),in the south we call them rooster combs*¹(Voyles Antique Knives 2nd ed. pgs 60,184,209,239,301,430,460). English call them pruners or gardeners knives(see pg.4 of this thread). Others (Schrade,Keen Kutter called pruning )call them budding and pruning knives.(Schrade Cat E pg. 87)

Jerry's and your knives were based off *² the Catalog cut in the Schrade Cat. E pg. 100 cut of the Schrade S7303 (this is what's used in Collectors Knives 2001),although they left off the "rooster comb" *¹.

GEC (they're coming ::ds:: ) calls them John Chapmans,google :) . I like that connotation. Welcome to my world,I just carry one with me when I go to shows.Visual aids are best....

*¹ See page 5 of this thread http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 3&start=60

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Concerning the Peter Henderson Co etched Schrade Cut knife I posted . Peter Henderson was an expert horticulturalist of repute,writing several books,articles . In 45 years of business,he personally sent out 175,000 letters,answering every letter written to him. Two-thirds of them were written by his own hand,all after work. Amazing! Henderson’s contemporaries called him “the father of horticulture and ornamental gardening” in the United States.

I believe this first knife (item 6889) in this 1924 Henderson catalog to be the knife , making it's appearance years before being shown in the Schrade catalog E 1936 supplement.You will notice the thickness of the pruner is like the one I posted.The later Schrade pruning blade on farmers jacks were like the upcoming GEC #38,a little slimmer and seemingly more elegant,staying a little more covered in her nest.

Page from 1924 Peter Henderson catalog(item 6889). Mine like this is one of my favorites,I like it a lot,,and it also has some personal history to me. :)

Here's the different pruning blade shape in this 1939 Henderson catalog ( knife is item k-7).
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Here's the link where I found that knife in the catalog:

http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/sear ... nk#/titles

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Roger was kind enough to give me a couple catalog cuts from Maher and Grosh. Thanks buddy.

I put the Maher and Grosh knife with an Ulster for comparison.They have the same dimensions ,and seem to be brothers.

Top knife is the Maher and Grosh.
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The secondary blades have slightly different profiles, other than that, twins.
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The Maher and Grosh is wore more than the Ulster Jerry. The spey blades' profiles on these knives evolved over the years.
I may try and post a sort of timeline sometime.

I'm looking for some SFOs today or tomorrow,kinda anxious. :D

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Lyle, when did you get the Maher & Grosh?
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June of last year you rascal, you found it for me.

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Brain Fart!!! ::dang::

I was thinking about that Montgomery Wards. ::facepalm::

Check out that Remington Mr. Blister highlighted.

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I'd like to get that Montgomery Wards. :)

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I think the owner is way too high on it.

He is a former university history professor, has written numerous articles for KnifeWorld Magazine in the past on various hardware brands. It's his forte' and he isn't willing to part with what he considers "rare", regardless of condition, for anything less than his estimate of value and compensation for loss of the item from his collection.

If we were dealing with his son, who sees a coming fiasco ridding himself of dad's eclectic collection of "stuff", we'd have a better chance of scoring that knife.

And I've never even seen the blades on the knife.

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Sounds like I don't want it as badly as he does. Thanks Charlie.

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My first Farmer Jack, a SFO GEC ordered by Lyle [wlf] A Lick Creek in smooth bone. I consider myself lucky to be one to get this version.
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Tank I just got word that one has become available for me as well. ::ds::
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tank wrote:My first Farmer Jack, a SFO GEC ordered by Lyle [wlf] A Lick Creek in smooth bone. I consider myself lucky to be one to get this version.
Tank - that is a beauty: great find! I am watching for one of those myself, though I am not sure which handle material I want. Probably whichever I can find! A very nice photo too, the best I have seen of one of those so far.
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I'm waiting impatiently for my supplier to notify me whether I'm getting one I want or not.

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....this is a new pattern to me, I like them all, especially the bone handled ones!!!!............. ::tu:: .........
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Man Tank ,that is a good looking knife.. :D :D Seriously, thanks for posting ,glad you got one.


Guys ,I'll have some to sell,just don't know how many of what yet.

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Congratulations Phil! I'm so glad you grabbed one. Thanks for the nice knives Lyle. Out of all the SFO's I like Lyle's choices the best. After seeing the Ebony handles I would have liked them just as well as the Smooth. Charlie (upnorth) has some nice ones as well.
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Received my John Chapman 38 a few days back.
I went with the green linen micarta.

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