Has another company bought the Queen name?

[OSCAR]

Saw an add for Queen City knives. Abalone scales and very cheap price. I’d guess made in China? Had the Queen crown on tang.
I’d hate to think that they are foreign made. Thanks

[Doc B]

Apparently SMKW now has the rights. By most accounts, it would appear they are Rough Rider knives, with a different label and higher price.

[GSPTOPDOG]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cody6268]

Yes; actually twice. Some individual in Ohio had purchased trademarks and equipment with intention to reintroduce Queen and Schatt and Morgan knives. He did budkus, then sold those trademarks to SMKW, while still owning the Schatt and Morgan trademark and the equipment.

You've got two choices: overpriced badge-engineered Bear and Sons and extremely overpriced badge engineered China-made Rough Ryders.

[XX Case XX]

it would appear they are Rough Rider knives, with a different label and higher price.

That's exactly what they are.

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Mike

[GSPTOPDOG]

Yes; actually twice. Some individual in Ohio had purchased trademarks and equipment with intention to reintroduce Queen and Schatt and Morgan knives. He did budkus, then sold those trademarks to SMKW, while still owning the Schatt and Morgan trademark and the equipment.

You've got two choices: overpriced badge-engineered Bear and Sons and extremely overpriced badge engineered China-made Rough Ryders.

What a big disappointment. My mother was born and raised in Titusville, PA. Some of her relatives (and therefore mine as well) worked in the Queen factory. My mother was born in the 1920's, so perhaps some of the old Queen knives that are out there still in collector's cases and maybe even in their pockets, were made by some distant relative of mine. It gives me a certain connection with Queen. I have even been to the factory and bought a couple of knives there several years ago. I am glad I went when I did and that I bought what I bought. Now it is just a bit of history and a memory. I think I'll give up collecting knives and just start playing video games all day and night in the basement.

[Mumbleypeg]

You've got two choices: overpriced badge-engineered Bear and Sons and extremely overpriced badge engineered China-made Rough Ryders.

I’m opting for the third choice - not spending my money on anything made in China.

Ken

[Papa Bones]

Apparently SMKW now has the rights. By most accounts, it would appear they are Rough Rider knives, with a different label and higher price.

it would appear they are Rough Rider knives, with a different label and higher price.

That's exactly what they are.

___________
Mike

[OSCAR]

Thanks for the replies. That’s what I figured. And while I do have a few higher end Chinese made knives from RUSSELL, I will not buy anything made in China anymore.

[Rossr]

So who is left making in the states, case, Gec. Anyone else? Buck.?

Schrade is all china now I believe, queen now too...and many more....

Changing times.


Is it even possible to.consider setting up a production facility in the states to make folders and such? I have often thought about this but seems like.u just cant compete. And there are so many processes to make a folder .

[Rossr]

Yes; actually twice. Some individual in Ohio had purchased trademarks and equipment with intention to reintroduce Queen and Schatt and Morgan knives. He did budkus, then sold those trademarks to SMKW, while still owning the Schatt and Morgan trademark and the equipment.

You've got two choices: overpriced badge-engineered Bear and Sons and extremely overpriced badge engineered China-made Rough Ryders.

So does that mean Schatt Moran may be made in the US again or were those sold as well to SMKW?

[Mumbleypeg]

So who is left making in the states, case, Gec. Anyone else? Buck.?

Utica, Ontario, Cutco. All make some in the U.S. but be careful as some of their output maybe made elsewhere. There are several “non-traditional” folder makers like Leatherman still made in the U.S.A. There are others but I don’t keep up with that type of knives so I couldn’t reliably tell you all or even some of the others.

Ken

[Rossr]

So who is left making in the states, case, Gec. Anyone else? Buck.?

Utica, Ontario, Cutco. All make some in the U.S. but be careful as some of their output maybe made elsewhere. There are several “non-traditional” folder makers like Leatherman still made in the U.S.A. There are others but I don’t keep up with that type of knives so I couldn’t reliably tell you all or even some of the others.

Ken

Yep I guess it's just a reality of our times thanks for the insight

Ross

[Mumbleypeg]

So who is left making in the states, case, Gec. Anyone else? Buck.?

Utica, Ontario, Cutco. All make some in the U.S. but be careful as some of their output maybe made elsewhere. There are several “non-traditional” folder makers like Leatherman still made in the U.S.A. There are others but I don’t keep up with that type of knives so I couldn’t reliably tell you all or even some of the others.

Ken

Yep I guess it's just a reality of our times thanks for the insight

Ross

Forgot to mention Bear & Sons.

Ken

[OLDE CUTLER]

So who is left making in the states, case, Gec. Anyone else? Buck.?

Schrade is all china now I believe, queen now too...and many more....

Changing times.


Is it even possible to.consider setting up a production facility in the states to make folders and such? I have often thought about this but seems like.u just cant compete. And there are so many processes to make a folder .

Nobody would buy them as they would be too expensive for American consumers, who buy everything based on price alone.

[Rossr]

So who is left making in the states, case, Gec. Anyone else? Buck.?

Schrade is all china now I believe, queen now too...and many more....

Changing times.


Is it even possible to.consider setting up a production facility in the states to make folders and such? I have often thought about this but seems like.u just cant compete. And there are so many processes to make a folder .

Nobody would buy them as they would be too expensive for American consumers, who buy everything based on price alone.

Sadly I feel you are correct. I make custom knives and do custom leather work. I could never compete on price vs china . I run Into the mentality a lot. Cost vs quality and most choose cheap cost first. I'm thankful for those who dont.

Ross

[bighomer]

Bear&sons are making some of the Queens. Some of the Colonials may be made here also.