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Interesting tie clip. Ken
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Ken, that is neat!

Any maker marks on it?
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I have really enjoyed pourin thru these old trick or novelty knives fellas. Here's the only ones I have.
I had 2 of these little letter openers but Kelab rebuilt one into this a few years back, out of burl.
I kept the green one cause I have a thing for green. The other one is a flipper that was my Dad's. Gotta get the rust off it now.
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Nice ones Perry ::tu::

Here is a real unusual knife. It is from Lebanon. The knife is made from one piece of Cow horn, it is carved into the shape of a Rooster, but you will find them in the form of other birds. The body is inlaid with round pieces of Coral, Tourquoise, Ebony, and Ivory. The back also has thin strips of Aluminum. The wings are Brass and are pinned on, the pin also serves as the pivot pin for the folding blade.

The most unusual thing about this knife is the two copper legs up front that fold down, so when the blade is closed the knife will sit upright! It took a lot of work to make this knife ::nod::
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Miller, that is the most unique knife I have ever seen. :shock: That took some work and thinkin to make that work. ::nod:: Thanks for showin it.
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Nice ones Perry ::tu::

Here is a real unusual knife. It is from Lebanon. The knife is made from one piece of Cow horn, it is carved into the shape of a Rooster, but you will find them in the form of other birds. The body is inlaid with round pieces of Coral, Tourquoise, Ebony, and Ivory. The back also has thin strips of Aluminum. The wings are Brass and are pinned on, the pin also serves as the pivot pin for the folding blade.

The most unusual thing about this knife is the two copper legs up front that fold down, so when the blade is closed the knife will sit upright! It took a lot of work to make this knife ::nod::
::tu:: very nice
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Here is another unusual knife.

It is a folding Farriers knife. This was used to clean the horses hoof out. Let me tell you it smelled bad when I got it :lol:

I washed it out with soap and water. No harm doing that with this folder, the blades are Stainless Steel, the body is Aluminum and the pins are Brass. These were meant to be washed.

There are no makers mark to be found on it. I think it may have been part of a Veterinarians tool kit.

I find that knives used by Doctors have Aluminum handles, probably because it is more sanitary and can be autoclaved. I have a Morticians knife with Aluminum handles :shock: :lol:

I like unusual stuff like this ::nod::
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Wow, it seems I have missed this thread- I haven’t seen it in a couple years.
Glad jarvis brought it back to life!

Here is a couple knives from Al Mar.
This first one is the Executive; super sharp blade and the case holds a Mini-Bic lighter.
GREAT cigar knife! The blade is so sharp you can get a flat cut or “V” cut on a cigar.
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This next knife was given to me by Al Mar. It says Mil-Tech in the clip. Al sold them in his office, where he did sell a few knives not of his own design. We were just talking one day in his office and Al says, “Hey, I want you to have this. It doesn’t have much of an edge, it is only made to stab, but if you are ever in a real tight spot, it might make the difference.”

It is made from a very high grade aircraft type aluminum, and looks like a very nice pen…
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until you take it apart…
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and put it back together like this.
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This last pic is some strange ting knives. I love the peanut knife. I don’t think it has great steel, but it looks cool. The red one looks like a little red pepper.
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I have a few more I will have to post later.
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Nice ones Dale ::tu::

Here is a real unusual one.

It is only 2" long closed has nickle silver handles, no back springs, to open/close the blades you flip the little tab on each end.

One blade is thin and sharp scalpel type blade, the other is like a tiny fork :shock: :lol:

Anyone know exactly what this was used for?
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The "fork" looks to have been some type of scribe. Never seen a 5-tyne fork before, I don't think. ::shrug::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Nice ones Dale ::tu::

Here is a real unusual one.

It is only 2" long closed has nickle silver handles, no back springs, to open/close the blades you flip the little tab on each end.

One blade is thin and sharp scalpel type blade, the other is like a tiny fork :shock: :lol:

Anyone know exactly what this was used for?

Dimitri,
Could that be a stripping comb used on some breeds of wirehaired terriers?
It looks a bit small, but it might work for last minute touch-up grooming before a dog show.

That is the first (and only) thing that comes to my mind. ::shrug::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Nice ones Dale ::tu::

Here is a real unusual one.

It is only 2" long closed has nickle silver handles, no back springs, to open/close the blades you flip the little tab on each end.

One blade is thin and sharp scalpel type blade, the other is like a tiny fork :shock: :lol:

Anyone know exactly what this was used for?
I would bet it is a folding scalpel judging by the lack of back springs and the method of opening.Probably post -1870 by the material it is made from(all metal allowing it to be sterilized).As for the unusual blade I can only hazard a guess:possibly used to hold an incision open while either making further cuts or holding it closed while stitching up an incision.
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I did some searching for ‘striping combs’ and found ‘stripping knives.’

http://www.groomers.com/item/groomaster ... 1/#Reviews

It seems these blades are much different in design than the blade in Willie’s knife.
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orvet wrote:It seems these blades are much different in design than the blade in Willie’s knife.
Willie`s knife? :? :? :lol:


Dale, I doubt this is some type of comb. Here is another picture that shows it`s true size.

It is hard to see from the first picture I posted, it is tiny.

Ray is on the right track, it is some kind of medical instrument, I just don`t know exactly what it was used for, yet ::nod::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:
orvet wrote:It seems these blades are much different in design than the blade in Willie’s knife.
Willie`s knife? :? :? :lol:
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Here is another unusual old knife.

This one is from my friend Ellis, I am posting the pictures of his knife. It is an old Cattaraugus pencil/knife model P1. It appears that these were made in several different colors. The one I have is a mottled Green. This one is a Blue and Red mixture. He has also seen one that is all Black. These were probably made to match the fountain pen colors of the day.

This example is in like new condition seems to have never been used :o

Ellis has been researching these for some time now and has more interesting information on them that I will post shortly.
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that is cool. even got a tiny swedge like most old catts. :)
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More info on this Catt from Ellis:
The color of the pencil knife, grey w/ red veins, is extremely specific to fountain pens of its era. Shaeffer's fountain pens had a pen called the Balance Lifetime pen and pencil, which is the only pen of many manufacturers that exactly matches this plastic pattern. Shaeffer's always purchased all of the stock from the one plastic manufacturer (celluloid to be more specific) of this pattern, because the manufacturer would not give an exclusive to Shaeffer's. So other pen companies have similar patterns, but only Shaeffer's is an exact pattern match.
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And here is the original catalog cut................
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This is my Bowen Concealed dagger belt knife..............
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Miller Bro`s wrote: Dale, I doubt this is some type of comb. Here is another picture that shows it`s true size.

It is hard to see from the first picture I posted, it is tiny.

Ray is on the right track, it is some kind of medical instrument, I just don`t know exactly what it was used for, yet ::nod::
Or? Could it be a leather working knife for small things like purses and wallets? The blade to cut the leather to pattern and the fork end to mark and prepunch for sewing?? Hey, one more guess isn't going to sink the boat.
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Jerry,

I don`t know much about leather working, but I think this thing is too delicate for that kind of work ::shrug:: ::hmm::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:Jerry,

I don`t know much about leather working, but I think this thing is too delicate for that kind of work ::shrug:: ::hmm::
Maybe it's some kind of bleeder knife. :shock: Keep guessing and we're bound to get close sooner or later. :)
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Dimitri

Given the types of utensils and the fact it is a metal body, perhaps it is a surgical instrument?
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