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Information Needed

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:19 pm
by Luckypaul777
I picked one up; that I need some help with guys. It's a Wharncliff whittler, 3 7/8" closed, the tang is stamped J.D.C. Kane, PA. Looks to be a pretty decent knife; genuine ivory scales; nice fit and finish. The COA implies that it is USA made; but reminds me of a German made Robert Klass. Any thoughts as to value; I picked it up for $27, good deal or not? Any help would be appreciated; thanks.


Luckypaul777

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:05 pm
by jonet143
no country of origin on blade? who wrote the c.o.a.? the shield seems to be poorly fitted with glue showing. you already know it's a "replica", i'm sure. possibly one of the parkerized imports. still a nice knife for $27.

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:05 pm
by Hukk
Judging by the wording in the COA, I would say that Parker made it. The blades are different as far as the pulls go. Here is a picture of a 3-7/8 Bulldog Viking model in Antique Elephant Ivory.

I am just basing my opinion on the wording and terminology used in the certificate. If so they would have been made in the Friedrich Olbertz factory, Solingen Germany.

I could be wrong, but the COA speaks Parker to me. $27 for Ivory, a steal IMO.

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:11 pm
by Hukk
On this website, go to the last Parker Whittler Knives just before Marbles. Looks like he also shares the Parker opinion and has some pictures.

http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/rod/knives/wh ... misc1.html

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:31 pm
by Knifekid
I think you nailed it Hukk...it's an uncle Jimmy special. 27.00 would be a deal for almost any handle material, much less ivory.

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:49 pm
by Luckypaul777
Talk about fast guys; thanks, can't fool the experts. I have never heard of J.D.C. before; as for the COA, I thought Parker usually had his name on them. johnnie; the shield is kind of poor workmanship. I had a large ivory toothpick; from Northwoods Knives; that the shield looked about the same. So that dates this around the late 80's or early 90's.

Luckypaul777

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:05 pm
by Hukk
Luckypaul777 wrote:Talk about fast guys; thanks, can't fool the experts. I have never heard of J.D.C. before; as for the COA, I thought Parker usually had his name on them. johnnie; the shield is kind of poor workmanship. I had a large ivory toothpick; from Northwoods Knives; that the shield looked about the same. So that dates this around the late 80's or early 90's.

Luckypaul777
I would guess 90's. The Bulldog Warncliffe Whittlers came out about 2002. The Bulldog/Case Seahorse/J D C Kane PA Warncliffe Whittlers are almost identical according to the Rod Neep website I posted earlier. Parker also made the Crandall Bradford PA Wharncliffe Whittler that competed with the Case Seahorse for much less money. The pictures are on the same website.

I like the Bulldog Warncliffe Whittlers, a nice sturdy knife that seems to be as good as the Case Seahorse for much less $$$ and I like the carbon steel that Bulldog uses also.

EDIT: Found the introduction date for Bulldog Warncliffe Whittlers was 2002, not 2001. Coincidentally, the same year that the Seahorse Whittler was introduced by W.R. Case & Sons.

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:23 pm
by PA Knives
John D. Case Kane Pennsylvania, that knife never heard of or ever visited that famous PA cutlery town. ::td:: But it is nice to see one again. ::tu:: The real thing would be EXTREMELY VALUABLE, ::ds:: but you paid a fair price for this one and hold on to it. ::nod:: It was made in Germany as many have already said. You will find all of the other good names copied in this way as well. Funny though, :lol: I have never seen Hollingsworth or Albertson copied in this way and they came from Kane PA as well.. ::huff::

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:58 pm
by smiling-knife
pa knives wrote: I have never seen Hollingsworth or Albertson copied in this way and they came from Kane PA as well.. ::huff::
Hollingsworth is much more difficult to fit on the tang :lol: s-k

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:32 pm
by PA Knives
::dang:: SK I should have known you would think that. ::sneaky::

I have been studying the tariff hearings of the 1800's and it seems that the British were just as guilty as the rest of us when came to mismarking and deception of pocket knives. Guess we are all guilty. ::shrug::

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:42 pm
by smiling-knife
pa knives wrote:::dang:: SK I should have known you would think that. ::sneaky::

I have been studying the tariff hearings of the 1800's and it seems that the British we just as guilty as the rest of us when came to mismarking and deception of pocket knives. Guess we are all guilty. ::shrug::
I have no doubt that is correct. I am really looking forward to reading about your research on this topic ::nod:: . These tarrifs had a significant impact on the knife industries of both the US and Sheffield... among others . . Best wishes, :D s-k