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Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 2:26 pm
by TDfuture
Does anyone know who made this knife? Only tang stamp readable is:
"M.O.R."
"-284"

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 2:51 pm
by ThatWeirdKnifeGuy
Its Omor.

Romo spelled backwards ::tu::

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 3:41 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Goins’ Encyclopedia lists “OMOR Germany g 1950-1960, OMOR STAINLESS STEEL J-258 JAPAN g 1950-1960, and OMOR PAKISTAN g 1950-1960.

No further information given.

Ken

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 3:44 pm
by Paladin
The jig looks like it is from Japan.

Ray

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 4:35 pm
by ThatWeirdKnifeGuy
Would agree that's the Japanese "scrat" jigging with a 60's feel to it

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 9:47 pm
by Runner 4 Knives
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I know you guys tried but… that knife is being sold as an old Northfield. I feel bad for whoever buys it. This is what kills knife collecting. The dishonesty and deception.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 10:42 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Not the first time an eBay seller has posted questions about a knife on AAPK, been given honest feedback, and ignored it. ::dang::

Takes a pretty wild imagination (and/or some drugs) to stretch “OR” to Northfield or Mayer & Grosh. ::skeptic::

Ken

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 11:07 pm
by Miller Bro's
Unreal ::disgust::

Sellers Description
Antique Jigged Bone Jack Knife No. 264 – Worn Tang Mark – Possible Northfield / Maher & Grosh Association

Offered here is an antique two-blade jack pocket knife that appears to be marked Northfield Knife Co., with the pattern number 264 visible on the tang. The tang stamp is worn and partially obscured, but the visible lettering and pattern number appear consistent with Northfield. This is an old American-made slipjoint with jigged bone handles, nickel silver bolsters, brass liners, federal-style shield, and two carbon steel blades.

Northfield Knife Co. was one of the early American cutlery makers, based in Northfield, Connecticut. This knife has the look and construction of an early/vintage working pocketknife rather than a modern reproduction.

Condition Details:
My goal is to describe each knife honestly and conservatively, without overstating age, rarity, originality, or condition. When I am unsure about a detail, I try to say so plainly rather than present a guess as fact.

Used antique/vintage condition. Both blades show scratches, sharpening wear, patina, staining, and scattered corrosion/pitting. The main blade has a long pull and visible tang stamp wear. The secondary blade also shows age and surface wear. The jigged bone handles have attractive color and age-darkening, with normal handling wear. Bolsters show tarnish, small dings, scratches, and age wear. Brass liners and interior channels show oxidation/verdigris from age. Shield is present. Please study the photos closely for blade wear, handle condition, bolster wear, tang stamp visibility, and overall condition.

I understand that buying vintage knives online can be difficult because photos and descriptions do not always tell the full story. I put time into photographing and describing each knife as accurately and conservatively as I can, including flaws or uncertainty. My goal is for the buyer to know what they are getting before it arrives, not to be surprised afterward.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 11:15 pm
by Paladin
Miller Bro's wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 11:07 pm Unreal ::disgust::

Sellers Description
Antique Jigged Bone Jack Knife No. 264 – Worn Tang Mark – Possible Northfield / Maher & Grosh Association

Offered here is an antique two-blade jack pocket knife that appears to be marked Northfield Knife Co., with the pattern number 264 visible on the tang. The tang stamp is worn and partially obscured, but the visible lettering and pattern number appear consistent with Northfield. This is an old American-made slipjoint with jigged bone handles, nickel silver bolsters, brass liners, federal-style shield, and two carbon steel blades.

Northfield Knife Co. was one of the early American cutlery makers, based in Northfield, Connecticut. This knife has the look and construction of an early/vintage working pocketknife rather than a modern reproduction.

Condition Details:
My goal is to describe each knife honestly and conservatively, without overstating age, rarity, originality, or condition. When I am unsure about a detail, I try to say so plainly rather than present a guess as fact.

Used antique/vintage condition. Both blades show scratches, sharpening wear, patina, staining, and scattered corrosion/pitting. The main blade has a long pull and visible tang stamp wear. The secondary blade also shows age and surface wear. The jigged bone handles have attractive color and age-darkening, with normal handling wear. Bolsters show tarnish, small dings, scratches, and age wear. Brass liners and interior channels show oxidation/verdigris from age. Shield is present. Please study the photos closely for blade wear, handle condition, bolster wear, tang stamp visibility, and overall condition.

I understand that buying vintage knives online can be difficult because photos and descriptions do not always tell the full story. I put time into photographing and describing each knife as accurately and conservatively as I can, including flaws or uncertainty. My goal is for the buyer to know what they are getting before it arrives, not to be surprised afterward.
What a load of crap! ::dang:: :shock: ::td:: ::barf::
Is this seller one of our members?

PS: See my later post. I have withdrawn this criticism.

Ray

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 11:34 pm
by Runner 4 Knives
I believe he is from the bronze membership monogram. That’s why I found this so disappointing. It’s his original posting on the top of this thread

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2026 11:59 pm
by Mumbleypeg
From the seller’s description “When I am unsure about a detail, I try to say so plainly rather than present a guess as fact.”

::dang::

Ken

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 12:09 am
by QTCut5
Credit the seller for not using a useless AI description.....however, that being said, his description is practically just as useless since it says basically everything that can already be seen in the photos and leaves out important information like size and blade walk & talk and lockup (snap & wobble).

A description like this may actually be worse in some ways than one generated by AI in that anyone reading an AI description instantly understands that the seller did not know or care enough about the knife to write a meaningful description, but this description is deceptive because it has the appearance of a sincere seller doing his best to provide an honest description and not cover up any flaws when in fact he hasn't told me anything I couldn't already see for myself and neglected to include information about its condition necessary for determining value. JMHO YMMV

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 12:34 am
by Killgar
I don't know if there is more than one OMOR, but it's my understanding that the Japanese OMOR knives are actually ROMO spelled backwards. ROMO being US cutlery importers Rosenbaum and Mogal.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 1:35 am
by ThatWeirdKnifeGuy
Ebay listings are created in steps. Maybe he accidently posted the wrong set of pictures and actually has a Northfield on hand to sell ::shrug::

The rest of the listings look legit.

I dunno, just can't believe he'd buy a membership to pull one like that.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm
by TDfuture
Gentlemen,

I read through the replies to my question about the M.O.R. tang mark. I came here because I’m new to the hobby and new to AAPK, and I was hoping to learn from people with more experience than I have.

My question was genuine. I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Based on the feedback here, I agree the eBay listing needed to come down until I can get a better and more accurate identification. I have removed the listing.

For those who offered useful information and tried to help answer the actual question, thank you. That is exactly the kind of knowledge I joined AAPK to learn from.

I will also say, respectfully, that some of the comments felt unnecessarily personal and demeaning. A factual correction or even a private message would have accomplished the same thing without turning it into a pile-on. I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it, but I would appreciate the same basic courtesy I would try to extend to someone else.

At this point, I would still appreciate any serious help identifying the knife and understanding the M.O.R. mark.

Doug

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 1:15 pm
by ThatWeirdKnifeGuy
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm Gentlemen,

I read through the replies to my question about the M.O.R. tang mark. I came here because I’m new to the hobby and new to AAPK, and I was hoping to learn from people with more experience than I have.

My question was genuine. I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Based on the feedback here, I agree the eBay listing needed to come down until I can get a better and more accurate identification. I have removed the listing.

For those who offered useful information and tried to help answer the actual question, thank you. That is exactly the kind of knowledge I joined AAPK to learn from.

I will also say, respectfully, that some of the comments felt unnecessarily personal and demeaning. A factual correction or even a private message would have accomplished the same thing without turning it into a pile-on. I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it, but I would appreciate the same basic courtesy I would try to extend to someone else.

At this point, I would still appreciate any serious help identifying the knife and understanding the M.O.R. mark.

Doug
Its omor. Romo was an importer of some nice knives. Omor was their economy line I believe. That knife probably came from the same factory as Sabre or maybe Valor. Its from the 60's. Its worth 15-20 dollars. Maybe a bit more with knife prices these days.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 1:24 pm
by Paladin
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm Gentlemen,

I read through the replies to my question about the M.O.R. tang mark. I came here because I’m new to the hobby and new to AAPK, and I was hoping to learn from people with more experience than I have.

My question was genuine. I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Based on the feedback here, I agree the eBay listing needed to come down until I can get a better and more accurate identification. I have removed the listing.

For those who offered useful information and tried to help answer the actual question, thank you. That is exactly the kind of knowledge I joined AAPK to learn from.

I will also say, respectfully, that some of the comments felt unnecessarily personal and demeaning. A factual correction or even a private message would have accomplished the same thing without turning it into a pile-on. I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it, but I would appreciate the same basic courtesy I would try to extend to someone else.

At this point, I would still appreciate any serious help identifying the knife and understanding the M.O.R. mark.

Doug
Doug,
Since I was one of those who "piled on" I'd like to ask one important question: Was the listing placed on eBay before or after your original posting here (May 22, 2026 9:26 am)?

Ray

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 3:04 pm
by Runner 4 Knives
In hindsight I would have handled this a bit differently. I personally have been burned on a knife purchase before back when I didn’t have much knowledge. I apologize for how I reacted to your post and am truly sorry. Good luck in the future. Also Ray has a good point on when you posted the knife before or after the advice was given here.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 4:49 pm
by QTCut5
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm I’m new to the hobby...I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification...I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it
Doug,

Here is what I found deceptive and misleading:

In your eBay description you mention "Northfield" five times:

"Possible Northfield", "appears to be marked Northfield Knife Co", "the visible lettering and pattern number appear consistent with Northfield", "Northfield Knife Co. was one of the early American cutlery makers, based in Northfield, Connecticut

By your own admission you are new to the hobby and you were never 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, yet you still managed to slip the word "Northfield" into your description FIVE times. In marketing, this is called "planting a seed" or "leading by the nose down a primrose path". In other words, you manufactured an association to Northfield with absolutely zero evidence and then removed your responsibility by using the words "appears" and "possible". This is nothing more than an attempt to make a potential buyer think the knife is a Northfield without you actually claiming it is. It would have been more honest of you simply to say, "I do not know who made this knife" instead of guessing at the maker, which you claim in the description is something you do not do, "When I am unsure about a detail, I try to say so plainly rather than present a guess..."

Furthermore, since you don't know who made the knife or where it was made, you can't honestly claim "This is an old American-made slipjoint..."

Lastly, as I stated earlier, a good description of a used or vintage folding knife should always include the closed length and an assessment of the blade action and lockup, aka, walk and talk and blade wobble.

If you sincerely want to "own a mistake and learn from it", then I hope this helps you see where you could improve.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 5:04 pm
by TDfuture
Paladin wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 1:24 pm
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm Gentlemen,

I read through the replies to my question about the M.O.R. tang mark. I came here because I’m new to the hobby and new to AAPK, and I was hoping to learn from people with more experience than I have.

My question was genuine. I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Based on the feedback here, I agree the eBay listing needed to come down until I can get a better and more accurate identification. I have removed the listing.

For those who offered useful information and tried to help answer the actual question, thank you. That is exactly the kind of knowledge I joined AAPK to learn from.

I will also say, respectfully, that some of the comments felt unnecessarily personal and demeaning. A factual correction or even a private message would have accomplished the same thing without turning it into a pile-on. I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it, but I would appreciate the same basic courtesy I would try to extend to someone else.

At this point, I would still appreciate any serious help identifying the knife and understanding the M.O.R. mark.

Doug
Doug,
Since I was one of those who "piled on" I'd like to ask one important question: Was the listing placed on eBay before or after your original posting here (May 22, 2026 9:26 am)?

Ray
It was posted before based on some bad advice. I had someone on eBay say it wasn't Northfield, it was something else. If I recall, I think they said Maher & Grosh so something like that. That's when I posted my question on AAPK.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 5:49 pm
by TDfuture
QTCut5 wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 4:49 pm
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm I’m new to the hobby...I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification...I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it
Doug,

Here is what I found deceptive and misleading:

In your eBay description you mention "Northfield" five times:

"Possible Northfield", "appears to be marked Northfield Knife Co", "the visible lettering and pattern number appear consistent with Northfield", "Northfield Knife Co. was one of the early American cutlery makers, based in Northfield, Connecticut

By your own admission you are new to the hobby and you were never 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, yet you still managed to slip the word "Northfield" into your description FIVE times. In marketing, this is called "planting a seed" or "leading by the nose down a primrose path". In other words, you manufactured an association to Northfield with absolutely zero evidence and then removed your responsibility by using the words "appears" and "possible". This is nothing more than an attempt to make a potential buyer think the knife is a Northfield without you actually claiming it is. It would have been more honest of you simply to say, "I do not know who made this knife" instead of guessing at the maker, which you claim in the description is something you do not do, "When I am unsure about a detail, I try to say so plainly rather than present a guess..."

Furthermore, since you don't know who made the knife or where it was made, you can't honestly claim "This is an old American-made slipjoint..."

Lastly, as I stated earlier, a good description of a used or vintage folding knife should always include the closed length and an assessment of the blade action and lockup, aka, walk and talk and blade wobble.

If you sincerely want to "own a mistake and learn from it", then I hope this helps you see where you could improve.
Thank you. I do take this as constructive, and I think several of your points are fair.

In hindsight, I agree that using “Northfield” repeatedly in the listing created too strong of an association, even though I tried to qualify it with words like “possible” and “appears.” That was not my intent, but I can see how the listing could read that way to a buyer. I should have simply said the maker was unknown and that the tang mark needed further identification.

I also agree that “old American-made slipjoint” was not appropriate once the maker and origin were uncertain. That was a mistake.

The listing has been taken down, and if I relist the knife, it will not be described as Northfield or American-made unless I have solid support for that. At this point, the mark appears more likely to be O.M.O.R. / OMOR Japan, and I am still trying to learn more about that.

Your point about including closed length, walk and talk, blade wobble, and lockup is also well taken. I will include that information going forward.

I did not intend to mislead anyone, but I understand better now how the wording could have led a buyer in that direction. I spent 40 years in sales and marketing so I can get carried away "selling". I appreciate the detailed explanation.

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2026 5:51 pm
by Paladin
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 5:04 pm
Paladin wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 1:24 pm
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 12:29 pm Gentlemen,

I read through the replies to my question about the M.O.R. tang mark. I came here because I’m new to the hobby and new to AAPK, and I was hoping to learn from people with more experience than I have.

My question was genuine. I was not trying to deceive anyone or misrepresent the knife. I have never been 100% comfortable with the Northfield identification, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Based on the feedback here, I agree the eBay listing needed to come down until I can get a better and more accurate identification. I have removed the listing.

For those who offered useful information and tried to help answer the actual question, thank you. That is exactly the kind of knowledge I joined AAPK to learn from.

I will also say, respectfully, that some of the comments felt unnecessarily personal and demeaning. A factual correction or even a private message would have accomplished the same thing without turning it into a pile-on. I am willing to own a mistake and learn from it, but I would appreciate the same basic courtesy I would try to extend to someone else.

At this point, I would still appreciate any serious help identifying the knife and understanding the M.O.R. mark.

Doug
Doug,
Since I was one of those who "piled on" I'd like to ask one important question: Was the listing placed on eBay before or after your original posting here (May 22, 2026 9:26 am)?

Ray
It was posted before based on some bad advice. I had someone on eBay say it wasn't Northfield, it was something else. If I recall, I think they said Maher & Grosh so something like that. That's when I posted my question on AAPK.
Since it was posted on eBay prior to posting here on AAPK, I withdraw my criticism. Nothing wrong with making an error. Lord knows, I have certainly made my share.

Ray

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 2:38 am
by TDfuture
Paladin wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 5:51 pm
TDfuture wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 5:04 pm
Paladin wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 1:24 pm

Doug,
Since I was one of those who "piled on" I'd like to ask one important question: Was the listing placed on eBay before or after your original posting here (May 22, 2026 9:26 am)?

Ray
It was posted before based on some bad advice. I had someone on eBay say it wasn't Northfield, it was something else. If I recall, I think they said Maher & Grosh so something like that. That's when I posted my question on AAPK.
Since it was posted on eBay prior to posting here on AAPK, I withdraw my criticism. Nothing wrong with making an error. Lord knows, I have certainly made my share.

Ray
Thanks Ray, I hope to get more good advice from great guys like you.

Doug

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 3:31 am
by edge213
I'm glad this has been "worked out", but I don't see how this tang stamp could be mistaken for "Northfield". Even to someone who has never seen a pocketknife in their life. :roll:

Re: Who made it? - M.O.R.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2026 2:21 pm
by btrwtr
Generally AAPK is a very friendly place. At times we can be a bit over reactive on knives that are posted that are counterfeit or described incorrectly. Most times we are careful to not beat on the seller or poster when we may be beating on the knife or the description. Good example here. ::handshake::

We are always learning. Knife is obviously Japanese. Good to have you here TDfuture!