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North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:16 am
by Clark23
Here is a quite scarce one for you, Mother of Pearl Gunboat has some minor front scale repair but for a whopping 5 bucks that doesn't matter much to me. I am quite happy to have found this quite rare stamp with some rich history. Being told more likely made by Case Bros or even Kane Cutlery. Made 1921-28. ::ds:: ::groove::

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:25 am
by Mumbleypeg
Nice find! I’ve managed to find several knives and a razor stamped North American Cutlery and either Wichita, Kansas or Beaver City, Nebraska. Goins Encyclopedia says the mark dates to 1921-1928 but there is another theory that the knives are even older, dating to the ~1890 time period. We know at least a couple of the Case Brothers were farming in Nebraska after they left Cattaraugus Cutlery, and before they founded Case Brothers Cutlery. Addie Case Burrell was born in Furnas County, Nebraska in 1896 (Beaver City is the county seat, and located only a few miles from the Nebraska/Kansas state line). Case Brothers was in operation from 1896-1912. Either way the brothers were believed to be operating as jobbers - there was no cutlery factory in either Beaver City nor Wichita.

So it is unlikely their knives were made by Case Brothers Cutlery because depending on which theory you believe, the North American Cutlery stamp is either older than Case Brothers, or several years after Case Brothers Cutlery’s bankruptcy. One of the North American Wichita Kansas knives I have is a large single-blade jack. I have an identical knife that is stamped Phoenix Knife Co., which was in operation 1892-1916. The two knives are unmistakably identical, which makes the 1921-1928 dates impossible. https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 6#p1185206
The other knives I have may be by Phoenix, and Napanoch (1900-1919). And one is stamped Germany on the pile side. The straight razor looks to me like probably Cattaraugus - although stamped North American Beaver City, it has the Cattaraugus Indian chief etch on the blade.

All of the knives and the razor I’ve mentioned are pictured here in other threads (a search for North American Cutlery (or just “Wichita”) will find them. Your knife was made for the Case brothers, but for the reasons stated I’m doubtful it was made by Case Brothers. And I’m betting it is older than you think! ::hmm:: JMO

Congratulations on the find, and thanks for showing it.

Ken

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:45 pm
by peanut740
Mumbleypeg wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:25 am Nice find! I’ve managed to find several knives and a razor stamped North American Cutlery and either Wichita, Kansas or Beaver City, Nebraska. Goins Encyclopedia says the mark dates to 1921-1928 but there is another theory that the knives are even older, dating to the ~1890 time period. We know at least a couple of the Case Brothers were farming in Nebraska after they left Cattaraugus Cutlery, and before they founded Case Brothers Cutlery. Addie Case Burrell was born in Furnas County, Nebraska in 1896 (Beaver City is the county seat, and located only a few miles from the Nebraska/Kansas state line). Case Brothers was in operation from 1896-1912. Either way the brothers were believed to be operating as jobbers - there was no cutlery factory in either Beaver City nor Wichita.

So it is unlikely their knives were made by Case Brothers Cutlery because depending on which theory you believe, the North American Cutlery stamp is either older than Case Brothers, or several years after Case Brothers Cutlery’s bankruptcy. One of the North American Wichita Kansas knives I have is a large single-blade jack. I have an identical knife that is stamped Phoenix Knife Co., which was in operation 1892-1916. The two knives are unmistakably identical, which makes the 1921-1928 dates impossible. https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 6#p1185206
The other knives I have may be by Phoenix, and Napanoch (1900-1919). And one is stamped Germany on the pile side. The straight razor looks to me like probably Cattaraugus - although stamped North American Beaver City, it has the Cattaraugus Indian chief etch on the blade.

All of the knives and the razor I’ve mentioned are pictured here in other threads (a search for North American Cutlery (or just “Wichita”) will find them. Your knife was made for the Case brothers, but for the reasons stated I’m doubtful it was made by Case Brothers. And I’m betting it is older than you think! ::hmm:: JMO

Congratulations on the find, and thanks for showing it.

Ken
::tu::

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:09 pm
by tvic
Nice find there, Clark, and great information, Ken! Thanks!

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:51 pm
by Clark23
Mumbleypeg wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:25 am Nice find! I’ve managed to find several knives and a razor stamped North American Cutlery and either Wichita, Kansas or Beaver City, Nebraska. Goins Encyclopedia says the mark dates to 1921-1928 but there is another theory that the knives are even older, dating to the ~1890 time period. We know at least a couple of the Case Brothers were farming in Nebraska after they left Cattaraugus Cutlery, and before they founded Case Brothers Cutlery. Addie Case Burrell was born in Furnas County, Nebraska in 1896 (Beaver City is the county seat, and located only a few miles from the Nebraska/Kansas state line). Case Brothers was in operation from 1896-1912. Either way the brothers were believed to be operating as jobbers - there was no cutlery factory in either Beaver City nor Wichita.

So it is unlikely their knives were made by Case Brothers Cutlery because depending on which theory you believe, the North American Cutlery stamp is either older than Case Brothers, or several years after Case Brothers Cutlery’s bankruptcy. One of the North American Wichita Kansas knives I have is a large single-blade jack. I have an identical knife that is stamped Phoenix Knife Co., which was in operation 1892-1916. The two knives are unmistakably identical, which makes the 1921-1928 dates impossible. https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 6#p1185206
The other knives I have may be by Phoenix, and Napanoch (1900-1919). And one is stamped Germany on the pile side. The straight razor looks to me like probably Cattaraugus - although stamped North American Beaver City, it has the Cattaraugus Indian chief etch on the blade.

All of the knives and the razor I’ve mentioned are pictured here in other threads (a search for North American Cutlery (or just “Wichita”) will find them. Your knife was made for the Case brothers, but for the reasons stated I’m doubtful it was made by Case Brothers. And I’m betting it is older than you think! ::hmm:: JMO

Congratulations on the find, and thanks for showing it.

Ken
Wow that is quite a load of information and love the history and knowledge you provided. Thank you very much for taking your time in sharing what valuable information you have collected. I just recently received as of this morning another Kansas City, Tom Ray Cutlery Co. Cattle, seen a link between Phoenix and Chatillion? Anything else you can tell me about it?
By the way some great looking knives, love the Pearl Withita. The stamp on mine is little different for the North American Wichita VS yours.

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:00 pm
by Clark23
tvic wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:09 pm Nice find there, Clark, and great information, Ken! Thanks!
Thank you very much!

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:11 pm
by stockman
I have a Beaver City Neb, and one from Wichita that have been posted earlier. Nice one that have been posted here.

Harold

Re: North American Wichita Kansas City

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:37 pm
by Gtrclktr-351
Great find, and for only $5.00 too. WOW!