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Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:13 am
by raincrowe
At the flea market this weekend; I found a box of junk knives and I found three that I thought were worth showing and talking about:
1) First I'll talk about the longest knife; It is twelve inches long including the handle; very good condition the blade is unlque in the way it's shaped
it's very flexible at the small end; I'm just not sure what the function is as the blade dosen't seem to be altered from the factory
the knife does have a stamp but I can't make all the words and symbols...I would guess the knife would be Sheffield made about early 1900's
but really don't know hopefully someone does!!
2) The second knife approx. nine inches long a butter knife with no name; bone handles and good condition with lead at the end handles
the unique thing is the hole just above the handles anybody know why?
3) the third knife; is five inches closed one blade with an enclosed backspring, handle appers to be made of copper with a rough finish
the blade has teeth on top at first I thought it was a saw blade but dosen't seem sharp enought to cut wood...also a loop to attach a chain ect...
I don't know anything about this knife
Three interesting knives that I would appreciate informaton for!! ::tu::

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:29 am
by Modern Slip Joints
The third knife's general handle and blade shapes and size with fish scaler were marketed to sport fishermen by Remington and others. One in the Remington Bullet series had a back lock. It was basically a Daddy Barlow with a back lock and fish scaler. While the lock is logical to prevent the blade closing on your fingers while using the fish scaler, Queen made them as slip joints fairly recently. Mine is a Camillus (U.S.) reproduction of Remington's Bullet Knife.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:08 am
by Froe
I’m not familiar with the Remington knife. But to me the third knife looks like the “Cousin Willie’s” hunting and fishing knife (Japanese) that I thought was a clone of the Geo Schrade Sportsman’s Knife. Here is an image from EBay.
Slipjoint I remember seeing these Schrades and Cousin Willie’s in tackle boxes when I was a kid in the seventies. Was the Remington version a folded metal frame as well?
Froe

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:13 am
by Froe
Could the first knife be a bread knife?

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:58 am
by Modern Slip Joints
Froe wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:08 am I’m not familiar with the Remington knife. But to me the third knife looks like the “Cousin Willie’s” hunting and fishing knife (Japanese) that I thought was a clone of the Geo Schrade Sportsman’s Knife. Here is an image from EBay.
Slipjoint I remember seeing these Schrades and Cousin Willie’s in tackle boxes when I was a kid in the seventies. Was the Remington version a folded metal frame as well?
Froe
The Remington version, as made by multiple companies, had liners, bolsters and side covers, usually bone. Standard pocket knife construction. What was similar was the size, straight handle, clip point and fish scaler.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:07 pm
by edgy46
The second knife looks like a table or butter knife, that has lost it's cast on pewter bolster.
Just my opinion.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:35 pm
by SwedgeHead
the 1st one looks like a finger, maybe to ease pointing for traffic cops and crossing guards on a long day. LoL

That way please ...

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 am
by Froe
Thanks Slipjoint.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:27 pm
by Modern Slip Joints
Knife7Knut posted a picture of an original Remington in his second reply here: viewtopic.php?t=83371

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:31 am
by raincrowe
Wow.... Some very interesting comments and theories...I liked the one about the traffic cop that used the long finger to point the way to go
I could see a cop doing that it would work...Lol

On the first knife I did some more research and saw what looks to be ( V crown R RO???? SONS ?TY
therefore it's possible that the knife could be a Sheffield knie made by Rodgers & Sons Majesty
Goins Book Pg. 233 has information about Rodgers & Sons but that is a guess

On the second knife the hole could be to hang the knife on a nail or hook or were some material was...this knife is blank as I couldn't
find any numbers or name anywhere

On the third knife it's does look identical to the Remimgton knife shown but it has no name or numbers
Thanks to all the great ideas and information will welcome more!!
Raincrowe

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:58 am
by raincrowe
Trying to clear up the stamp on the knife to see if anyone could help identify it ::tu::

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:08 am
by Reverand
I agree that the butter knife had a bolster that was probably two halves, which were pinned or clipped together through that hole. The missing bolster leaves just the hole.
That first knife is intriguing though. Unless it has been weirdly misshapen by very bad sharpening, I cannot imagine what it is.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:33 pm
by raincrowe
On the first knife...It's never been sharpned; I don't think it was made to cut anything...It may not be a knife
The blade is thick and solid until the reaches the first wide hump; then it is gradually thinned down until the second smaller hump is reached
but still not flexable; but after that point it thined down more and becomes flexable to move easeily a half an inch either right to left..
You can place a finger or thumb on the top or bottom in any position...right to left; up or down ect...
It may be some tool made by a knife company for some purpose
It would be great to find more info.. I'll try to send another pic
Thanks Reverand
Raincrowe

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:31 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
raincrowe wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:13 am At.....
Regarding your pocket knife #3, it should look like my two
in pictures #1-#4, posted below. The blade in yours came
from a pocket knife similar to one of my five pocket knives
in picture #5, posted below (ALL five have fish scalers).
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:37 pm
by raincrowe
Your knife has the identical handles as the one I have..Someone has removed the tang stamp (for what reason I couldn't answer)
I believe the knife could be a Geo. Schade with the different blade...

On the first knife I'm still bewildered because I can't find for what purpose this knife was used. :?
Hopefully somebody will come up with the answer??
Thank you for sharing your knives and information ::tu::
Raincrowe

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:33 pm
by Froe
I’ve been thinking about the “cop finger” knife. Maybe it is intended to ice cakes?
Froe

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:28 am
by Gr8wazu
Really cool unique knives. Thanks for posting.

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:26 am
by raincrowe
Froe wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:33 pm I’ve been thinking about the “cop finger” knife. Maybe it is intended to ice cakes?
Froe
That could be a possibility but when I looked up cake iceing I couldn't find any reference relating the knife to that task
but that doesn't mean it's not out there somewhere!!
Thanks
Raincrowe

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:26 pm
by bighomer
I ought not post this because it's no real help, but i was down that ytube rabbit hole a couple of days before this was posted and a foreign lady was using a knife very very similar to the first knife to cut something, I can't for the life me remember what, but I thought at the time what a weird knife shape it was and then you posted these knives, I went back and looked but never found it again. I'm thinking she was doing the street food stuff but I'm not sure. ::handshake::

Re: Three Interesting Knives

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:28 am
by raincrowe
bighomer wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:26 pm I ought not post this because it's no real help, but i was down that ytube rabbit hole a couple of days before this was posted and a foreign lady was using a knife very very similar to the first knife to cut something, I can't for the life me remember what, but I thought at the time what a weird knife shape it was and then you posted these knives, I went back and looked but never found it again. I'm thinking she was doing the street food stuff but I'm not sure. ::handshake::
Wow...That would be great if you could find that video and see what the knife was actually used for...
It was made by a well-known knife company guessing over 100 years for some purpose
Maybe we will find out someday!!
Thanks
Raincrowe