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Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:28 pm
by rjoknife
"Throw-in" with some other stuff on Maxsold. 1948-1951 version? After a little TLC it's in good shape.

Re: Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:33 pm
by Vit_213
rjoknife wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:28 pm 1948-1951 version?
No. This is the late 60s - 70s. Welcome here viewtopic.php?t=46492

Re: Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:28 pm
by rjoknife
Vit_213 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:33 pm
rjoknife wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:28 pm 1948-1951 version?
No. This is the late 60s - 70s. Welcome here viewtopic.php?t=46492
Thanks!

Re: Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:21 pm
by tongueriver
If the OP knife has celluloid handles instead of Delrin plastic handles it was made before 1962. I see shrinkage that suggests celluloid; Delrin handles would not show that level of shrinkage. Delrin use had almost completely (and probably completely) taken over by 1962 among all U.S. knife companies. Also, if the diamond shield is plastic instead of metal, it is a 1950s knife according to "Official Scout Blades" by Ed Holbrook, 5th printing, 2009.

Re: Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:34 am
by Vit_213
tongueriver wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:21 pm If the OP knife has celluloid handles instead of Delrin plastic handles it was made before 1962. I see shrinkage that suggests celluloid; Delrin handles would not show that level of shrinkage. Delrin use had almost completely (and probably completely) taken over by 1962 among all U.S. knife companies.
Until the mid-70s, Camillus hid the materials of the handles, calling them by their proper names (Plastag, Stagged, Brownstag, Cabone). These names could hide not only celluloid and Delrin, but also other materials. The name Delrin first appeared in catalogs only in 1976.
The statement that if there is shrinkage on the handles, it means it is celluloid, I consider incorrect. We do not know in what conditions this knife was stored.
tongueriver wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:21 pm Also, if the diamond shield is plastic instead of metal, it is a 1950s knife according to "Official Scout Blades" by Ed Holbrook, 5th printing, 2009.
I do not have this book, but I am willing to argue with Mr. Holbrook, based not only on the materials of the shields, but also on the profiles of the tools, tang stamps and some additional facts.

Re: Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:42 am
by tongueriver
I probably used confusing language; I did not mean to imply that the shrunk covers meant celluloid, although that is the most likely scenario. There were a couple other crappy formulas out there that shrunk that much. Delrin is not one of them. I have handled personally many dozens of Delrin-handled knives and viewed via digital media must be close to a million by now. When it shrinks it is almost impossible to notice. If that OP knife was made after say... 1962 at the latest... it is Delrin, which, because of the significant shrinkage, is impossible. That knife was made before 1962 for sure and probably before 1960. And as a postscript, I am willing to be wrong about this if given good evidence. I have been wrong lots of times and am usually grateful to learn from the experience.

Re: Camillus Cub Scout

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:47 am
by Vit_213
We do not know until what year Camillus used shrinkaged materials. And this screwdriver-bottle opener profile appeared in the late 60s.