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EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:35 am
by Treasure Trawler
Hey Fellas, I found this EC Simmons today. Was the knife made this way or did someone grind it down. Punch seems legit. Any information?
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Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:29 am
by 1967redrider
Give 'er the old #2 pencil spa and see what's under the crud.
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Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:38 am
by Treasure Trawler
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Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:45 pm
by 1967redrider
Any pattern number on this side?

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:14 pm
by Ridgegrass
Barry, Get a good pic from the tip end. It could be just a modified punch or an old pen blade reworked. The round shape of the tang is like a pen blade whereas a punch blade usually has pointed "kick". If it's an original, unaltered blade, someone here should recognize it or have a Simmons catalog. John.

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:54 pm
by Treasure Trawler
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Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:52 pm
by Ridgegrass
Not much info Barry? Guess nobody recognizes it. John

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:58 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Interesting find. Don’t recall ever seeing a punch/awl like that. Typesetters blades and pipe cleaners are similar but different. Hope someone will recognize what its purpose was. ::hmm:: Where’s Dimitri? ::shrug:: 🆘

Ken

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:40 am
by Ridgegrass
Ken, Do you have a typesetter's example? I've not seen one but I'd like to. I have a knife with a strange pick too; haven't been able to I D it for sure.
Thanks, John

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:34 pm
by danno50
Here are some pics (from the internet) of a two different punch blades.

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:48 pm
by danno50
Here are a couple of poor pictures of the punch on a Simmons era Keen Kutter scout. I believe this is a pre 1923 knife.

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:27 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Ridgegrass wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:40 am Ken, Do you have a typesetter's example? I've not seen one but I'd like to. I have a knife with a strange pick too; haven't been able to I D it for sure.
Thanks, John
Sadly I don’t have any with the typesetter’s blade. I’ve bid on a few but apparently I’m too cheap to win one. :lol:

There’s a good example above in Dan’s post. Those I recall were made by Charles Langbein and I believe Schrade made some also. A search here for Langbein will find some beauties. Like this one from Joe:
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Ken

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:18 pm
by Ridgegrass
Thanks Ken. I do remember seeing that type of blade. It appears to have more shoulder than the one Treasure Trawler posted. Maybe his is Simmons '' version or not. I'll get a hands on look at it, we live near each other. Interesting.

John

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:57 pm
by Ridgegrass
Thanks Ken. I do remember seeing that type of blade. It appears to have more shoulder than the one Treasure Trawler posted. Maybe his is Simmons '' version or not. I'll get a hands on look at it, we live near each other. Interesting.

John

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:20 pm
by ScoutKnives
Maybe you can find your answer on this thread ?

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Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:19 pm
by Ridgegrass
Thanks Danno and Scout. After seeing the Simmons scout punch and reviewing the "Knives with Punches" thread I'm leaning toward it being a ground down secondary blade, partly because the "Kick" on most punch blades is a pronounced angle and this one is a rounded shoulder. It doesn't look like a knife that would have a pipe stem cleaner and it looks too thin to be for hard applications. Maybe some old feller had a special need and made himself a tool ??? ::shrug:: J.O'.

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:54 pm
by peanut740
Ridgegrass wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:19 pm Thanks Danno and Scout. After seeing the Simmons scout punch and reviewing the "Knives with Punches" thread I'm leaning toward it being a ground down secondary blade, partly because the "Kick" on most punch blades is a pronounced angle and this one is a rounded shoulder. It doesn't look like a knife that would have a pipe stem cleaner and it looks too thin to be for hard applications. Maybe some old feller had a special need and made himself a tool ??? ::shrug:: J.O'.
I believe you are correct,looks like a ground down punch blade .

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:08 pm
by Ridgegrass
I like when someone agrees with me. It happens so little. :D ::handshake:: J.O'.

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:23 pm
by peanut740
Ridgegrass wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:08 pm I like when someone agrees with me. It happens so little. :D ::handshake:: J.O'.
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Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:15 am
by Treasure Trawler
Thanks Fellas! Anyone have an example of this EC and what this should have looked like?

Re: EC Simmons punch blade?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:52 am
by eveled
Ridgegrass wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:19 pm Maybe some old feller had a special need and made himself a tool ??? ::shrug:: J.O'.
That was my first thought.