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Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:48 am
by CarMan
I need someone else’s opinion on this. Does the badge that says U.S.A. on this knife look like it’s been added or does it look original? For some reason it looks off to me. Thanks for any & all help.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:58 am
by QGofLake
The shield itself looks ok to me. Hard to say from the picture but to my eye, it looks like it might be sitting a little high. Hard to say though.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:19 am
by eveled
I hesitate to post this, because its just a feeling. It looks to me like the scale had been replaced. Maybe it’s just a lack of wear on a nice old knife? IDK?

On the right side of the picture the bark is lower than the bolster, but the bolster has a crisp edge. I would expect it to have been worn down during the final polish or over the last 80 years. Also the hole for the can opener tab is perfectly squared off.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:28 am
by Reverand
Is the shield inlayed into the bone at all?
From this picture it does appear to just be sitting on top of the bone, or at the least sitting very proud.
I have a handful of similar Camillus knives, but I don't have access to them in order to compare them.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:28 am
by herbva
I think that the knife CarMan posted above is just fine. It looks identical to the Camillus WW2 era "U.S.A." shield knife pictured on page of 42 of Silvey's book. I just looked at several dozen of my bone handled knives of the same era and all of the shields look to be sitting a bit "proud" by today's standards. I'm guessing it's just a combination of the shields typically not being inlayed as deep as they are today, and/or the jigged bone scales getting worn down faster than the shields. Just my little theory. :D

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:49 pm
by doglegg
I also think it looks fine.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:59 pm
by Ripster
CarMan wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:48 am I need someone else’s opinion on this. Does the badge that says U.S.A. on this knife look like it’s been added or does it look original? For some reason it looks off to me. Thanks for any & all help.
They made millions of these for the war effort. Have several that look very similar . Would bet the knife is just as it was from the factory.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:12 pm
by peanut740
Knife's fine. ::tu::

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:43 pm
by CarMan
peanut740 wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:12 pm Knife's fine. ::tu::
Thank you

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:07 am
by toomanyknives
CarMan wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:48 am I need someone else’s opinion on this. Does the badge that says U.S.A. on this knife look like it’s been added or does it look original? For some reason it looks off to me. Thanks for any & all help.
Just saw this post, CarMan. Here is mine. It looks just like yours. Mine was missing the bail, so I made one, your knife looks original to me.
IMG_0002 (2).JPG

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:09 pm
by CarMan
eveled wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:19 am I hesitate to post this, because its just a feeling. It looks to me like the scale had been replaced. Maybe it’s just a lack of wear on a nice old knife? IDK?

On the right side of the picture the bark is lower than the bolster, but the bolster has a crisp edge. I would expect it to have been worn down during the final polish or over the last 80 years. Also the hole for the can opener tab is perfectly squared off.
I didn’t even notice that, good eye. I passed on this one for a couple reasons.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:10 pm
by CarMan
Reverand wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:28 am Is the shield inlayed into the bone at all?
From this picture it does appear to just be sitting on top of the bone, or at the least sitting very proud.
I have a handful of similar Camillus knives, but I don't have access to them in order to compare them.
I did not have this in hand, but the shield didn’t look inlaid to me. I passed on it.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:12 pm
by CarMan
herbva wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:28 am I think that the knife CarMan posted above is just fine. It looks identical to the Camillus WW2 era "U.S.A." shield knife pictured on page of 42 of Silvey's book. I just looked at several dozen of my bone handled knives of the same era and all of the shields look to be sitting a bit "proud" by today's standards. I'm guessing it's just a combination of the shields typically not being inlayed as deep as they are today, and/or the jigged bone scales getting worn down faster than the shields. Just my little theory. :D
Thank you. I appreciate you looking. I passed on this one, but at least I know for the future. This one went well out of my price range anyway.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:14 pm
by CarMan
toomanyknives wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:07 am
CarMan wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:48 am I need someone else’s opinion on this. Does the badge that says U.S.A. on this knife look like it’s been added or does it look original? For some reason it looks off to me. Thanks for any & all help.
Just saw this post, CarMan. Here is mine. It looks just like yours. Mine was missing the bail, so I made one, your knife looks original to me.IMG_0002 (2).JPG
Thank you. I have a few missing the bails as well. I would love to know how you added it.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:15 pm
by CarMan
Thank you all for the help. I let this one pass, but sure learned a lot from you all for the next go around.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:09 pm
by toomanyknives
CarMan wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:14 pm
toomanyknives wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:07 am
CarMan wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:48 am I need someone else’s opinion on this. Does the badge that says U.S.A. on this knife look like it’s been added or does it look original? For some reason it looks off to me. Thanks for any & all help.
Just saw this post, CarMan. Here is mine. It looks just like yours. Mine was missing the bail, so I made one, your knife looks original to me.IMG_0002 (2).JPG
Thank you. I have a few missing the bails as well. I would love to know how you added it.
You're going to laugh, but the bail was made from a steel coat hanger that I rolled over a pipe, hammered flat on each end, and ran a pin through. Pretty simple actually. Not perfect, but very functional!

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:51 am
by CarMan
toomanyknives wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:09 pm
CarMan wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:14 pm
toomanyknives wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:07 am

Just saw this post, CarMan. Here is mine. It looks just like yours. Mine was missing the bail, so I made one, your knife looks original to me.IMG_0002 (2).JPG
Thank you. I have a few missing the bails as well. I would love to know how you added it.
You're going to laugh, but the bail was made from a steel coat hanger that I rolled over a pipe, hammered flat on each end, and ran a pin through. Pretty simple actually. Not perfect, but very functional!
As they use to tell me at work, “it’s only stupid if it doesn’t work.” That actually sounds ingenious. Thank you for the idea.

Re: Help with Camillus

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:23 am
by toomanyknives
CarMan wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:51 am
toomanyknives wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:09 pm
CarMan wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:14 pm

Thank you. I have a few missing the bails as well. I would love to know how you added it.
You're going to laugh, but the bail was made from a steel coat hanger that I rolled over a pipe, hammered flat on each end, and ran a pin through. Pretty simple actually. Not perfect, but very functional!
As they use to tell me at work, “it’s only stupid if it doesn’t work.” That actually sounds ingenious. Thank you for the idea.
::handshake:: Yes Sir..