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1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:14 am
by Corn Creek Cutlery
Can anyone offer any info on a Buck 119 with double bands at the pommel? I do not have a picture. Many thanks!
I found a pic, and title should be 1972-86 ... my apologies
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:16 pm
by bertl
What is the tang stamp?
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:06 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
My pre 1986 119 and my 121 from 1988 are the same as yours.
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:59 am
by bertl
bertl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:16 pm
What is the tang stamp?
The red arrow is pointing to the tang stamp. On older knives it may just be one line of "BUCK"; others may be two lines of "BUCK/USA"; and eventually three lines of "BUCK/MODEL NUMBER/USA". From 1986 on, the model number will be followed with a date code symbol. Also, what you are calling "bands" are usually called "spacers". Spacer material can help date the knife. The earliest were leather, then hard fiber, and finally micarta. Your knife looks like it has micarta spacers.
Bert
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:21 am
by Corn Creek Cutlery
bertl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:16 pm
What is the tang stamp?
Buck
119
U.S.A.
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:23 am
by Corn Creek Cutlery
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:06 pm
My pre 1986 119 and my 121 from 1988 are the same as yours.
Thanks Olde Cutler ... I looked at my 120, and it is the same. Must have had a senior moment on the 119 ...lol.
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:25 am
by Corn Creek Cutlery
bertl wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:59 am
bertl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:16 pm
What is the tang stamp?
The red arrow is pointing to the tang stamp. On older knives it may just be one line of "BUCK"; others may be two lines of "BUCK/USA"; and eventually three lines of "BUCK/MODEL NUMBER/USA". From 1986 on, the model number will be followed with a date code symbol. Also, what you are calling "bands" are usually called "spacers". Spacer material can help date the knife. The earliest were leather, then hard fiber, and finally micarta. Your knife looks like it has micarta spacers.
Bert
102 stag 1987 copy.jpeg
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I believe it is micarta .. thank you for the spacer material info ... did not know that. Be a big help with dating these in the future.
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:19 pm
by bertl
Approximate years for introduction of the various spacer materials are: leather-1955; hard fiber-1962; micarta-1969.
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:46 am
by Corn Creek Cutlery
bertl wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:19 pm
Approximate years for introduction of the various spacer materials are: leather-1955; hard fiber-1962; micarta-1969.
Many thanks bertl ... Good info! Does the introduction of hard fiber relate to the introduction of delrin?
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:29 pm
by bertl
Corn Creek Cutlery wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:46 am
bertl wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:19 pm
Approximate years for introduction of the various spacer materials are: leather-1955; hard fiber-1962; micarta-1969.
Many thanks bertl ... Good info! Does the introduction of hard fiber relate to the introduction of delrin?
I always think of Delrin in relation to the 300 series folders and black phenolic in relation to the 100 series fixed blades. Anyway, here is my summary of characteristics for dating the early 100 series factory knives. It combines information from a couple of articles by Joe Houser.
Bert
Re: 1976-82 Buck 119 With Double Bands At Pommel
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:14 am
by Corn Creek Cutlery
bertl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:29 pm
Corn Creek Cutlery wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:46 am
bertl wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:19 pm
Approximate years for introduction of the various spacer materials are: leather-1955; hard fiber-1962; micarta-1969.
Many thanks bertl ... Good info! Does the introduction of hard fiber relate to the introduction of delrin?
I always think of Delrin in relation to the 300 series folders and black phenolic in relation to the 100 series fixed blades. Anyway, here is my summary of characteristics for dating the early 100 series factory knives. It combines information from a couple of articles by Joe Houser.
Bert
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Thanks again Bert! Appreciate your sharing that spreadsheet. The knowledge gained on these forums is priceless ... glad I joined!