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? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:54 pm
by Thomasg
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:40 pm
by zzyzzogeton
The Western puukos were only made in 1941. The model number for your knife would have been 68BG.
Black is not listed in TKMWWW as one of the handle options, but Western had already been making black bakelite handled knives for nearly 10 years by this time. I believe these have bakelite handles, not tenite, as I have never seen one with any of the shrinkage/cracking issues that can develop in tenite. I have one identical to yours sitting in a tub out in the shop and it show zero indications of shrinking or deteriorating.
If we ever come across an advertisement for these black handled 68BGs (or the slightly shorter 58BGs), it would not surprise me to see a different model number on them, such as BX68 or BX68BG or Bx68BG. The reason, if so found, would be that BX and Bx were the model number handle codes for bakelite handled knives from 1931 to 1943, the last BX knife was the Bx54 Bushman, Western's authorized clone of the Collins #18 Pequeno Machete, used in AAC bailout bags, and the direct "ancestor" of the W49 Bowie.
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:33 pm
by Thomasg
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:40 pm
The Western puukos were only made in 1941. The model number for your knife would have been 68BG.
Black is not listed in TKMWWW as one of the handle options, but Western had already been making black bakelite handled knives for nearly 10 years by this time. I believe these have bakelite handles, not tenite, as I have never seen one with any of the shrinkage/cracking issues that can develop in tenite. I have one identical to yours sitting in a tub out in the shop and it show zero indications of shrinking or deteriorating.
If we ever come across an advertisement for these black handled 68BGs (or the slightly shorter 58BGs), it would not surprise me to see a different model number on them, such as BX68 or BX68BG or Bx68BG. The reason, if so found, would be that BX and Bx were the model number handle codes for bakelite handled knives from 1931 to 1943, the last BX knife was the Bx54 Bushman, Western's authorized clone of the Collins #18 Pequeno Machete, used in AAC bailout bags, and the direct "ancestor" of the W49 Bowie.
Once again I thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge of western knifes .
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:16 am
by Rockingkj
Here is my Puuko. Obviously Western but marked “RANGER” with black handle. Anyone else seen one like this?
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:17 pm
by Thomasg
Rockingkj wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:16 am
Here is my Puuko. Obviously Western but marked “RANGER” with black handle. Anyone else seen one like this?5623CD80-E030-4942-AD12-5470CF559799.jpeg787E36F5-A9DE-4F76-8E4B-8407764F89A2.jpeg
Nope .Nice find .I have known for some time that western had contract knifes that were tang stamped ranger . your knife is the only ranger I have seen ! Being that it is a puuko that would mean that your knife was made around if not only in the year 1941.That tells me that the ranger knifes have been around longer than I might have expected .the ranger tang stamp is a one I have been seeking for awhile .would you be so kind as to tell me what part of the country you found the knife in ? I have not found much information on where or who offered the western made ranger knifes for purchase .Also if you could add your knife to the tang stamp chart post that would be great .
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:22 pm
by Rockingkj
The knife came from an auction in Alabama. In fact the auction did not picture the marking but called it a Western Knife. Was surprised when I got it a saw the Ranger mark.
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:13 am
by Thomasg
Rockingkj wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:22 pm
The knife came from an auction in Alabama. In fact the auction did not picture the marking but called it a Western Knife. Was surprised when I got it a saw the Ranger mark.
Thank you for your reply.I think my sheath originally should have had a wood insert inside .does your sheath have an insert ? I got the west- cut from E-Bay shipped from ohio .thanks.
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:42 am
by Rockingkj
No insert in mine and does not look like it ever did.
Re: ? WEST-CUT. Puuko ?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:45 pm
by Thomasg
Rockingkj wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:42 am
No insert in mine and does not look like it ever did.
Thanks .
